BREAKING: Nets fire Hollins, King steps down

[KG Living Legend]

This is perfect. New GM will come in and realize they are bare to the bone and try and trade Lopez/Thad Young to picks.  That also buys the new GM some time as well.

Still ticked off at those two Nets losses however.

new gm might also come in and make a couple moves to help them win.

With what assets? You can't make chicken salad out of chicken...

They have a $25M expiring deal in Joe Johnson

They have an All-Star-caliber center in Brook Lopez

They have a solid NBA starting PF in Thad Young

They have a couple interesting role players in Bogdanovic, Larkin, Reed that could fit some teams' needs

 You mean nobody has any interest in Joe's 25 million dollar contract.

 If they trade Lopez they are horrible.

 Young you can get a late first for, Bogdanavic is worth even less. Larkin is worth nothing.

[KG Living Legend]

This is perfect. New GM will come in and realize they are bare to the bone and try and trade Lopez/Thad Young to picks.  That also buys the new GM some time as well.

Still ticked off at those two Nets losses however.

new gm might also come in and make a couple moves to help them win.

Not really.  They'd have nothing to trade except for the aforementioned Lopez and Thad Young

Joe Johnson is still a capable shooter that could be very valuable to a contender in a reserve role.  He has $25M coming off the books.  The Nets could take on a lot of salary coming back and nab either a future pick or a serviceable player that could work for them...sort of like the KG for Thad deal last year.

 Dude seriously? Joe Johnson sucks. Let's call a spade a spade.

 He's the single worst contract in Pro Sports by a mile.

 Please purpose A JJ trade that makes any sense. You can't.

[KeepRondo]

Make no mistake, this is not good news.  Surprised as many people think this might be a good thing.

Mark it down, the Nets will go on a mini win streak.  Eventually they will come down to earth but those few wins may be the difference.

would you care to explain how and why the nets will suddenly start winning games? was hollins so bad a coach that he held them back this season? is someone going to step up and take over jack's role?

let's bet and see. if the nets go 7-3 or better over the next 10 games, i owe you a tp. if not, i get one. heck, i'll even give you odds if you want. 

make it a true triboy bet and bet all your TPs that the Nets will win less than 5 games in their next 10.

[csfansince60s]

This is perfect. New GM will come in and realize they are bare to the bone and try and trade Lopez/Thad Young to picks.  That also buys the new GM some time as well.

Still ticked off at those two Nets losses however.

new gm might also come in and make a couple moves to help them win.

Not really.  They'd have nothing to trade except for the aforementioned Lopez and Thad Young

Joe Johnson is still a capable shooter that could be very valuable to a contender in a reserve role.  He has $25M coming off the books.  The Nets could take on a lot of salary coming back and nab either a future pick or a serviceable player that could work for them...sort of like the KG for Thad deal last year.

Joe Johnson has an 8 PER. Capable shooter? He's not an NBA player anymore.  His expiring salary means nothing when every team will have cap space this year.  He has as much value as a Powerball ticket from last night.  He will be bought out after the deadline.

Look at what I cited previously....Brooklyn did something very similar in trading KG for Thad Young.  Yes, Joe Johnson still is a capable shooter as we witnessed the other night when he destroyed the Celtics. 

There are some teams that I am sure would love to trade out of a bad deal.  A $25M expiring lets you do that.

where is even an remote place he can go? His contract is an albatross.Feel free to propose a trade where it makes any sense for him to go. 25 million is about 3-4 Nba players

Salary match with Phoenix for Markieff Morris and Tyson Chandler.

That would not be good for us, but I can see Phoenix doing it to tank out with Bledsoe gone. They get a high pick and all that cap space next year....and you guys know how Sarver is about spending $$$.
A motivated Morris and a still relatively competent Chandler minus the net negative (except against the Cs) Joe Johnson would help their win chances immensely and be very bad for our pick.

Another more risky for Brooklyn move would be Johnson's corpse for Martin and Pekovic. Far more risky for Brooklyn, but Martin alone will be an improvement on Joe Johnson.

Pohkorov (sp?) doesn't seem like a patient guy. (See PP/KG deal). I can't see Brooklyn trading their most valuable assets. Any team that they trade them to will most likely get better and hurt the value of that team's draft pick that the Nets would own.

I hope the theory that someone suggested, that the new GM wouldn't care about looking bad if the Nets pick this year was a home run for us, is accurate and that the new GM isn't afraid to trade his best players for picks. Im just not so sure that will happen. (as much as I hope it will.)

EDIT: Also, in the trade with the Wolves, with Dieng and Towns there, the recovering Pekovic and his   long, relatively large contract is a negative for the Wolves and the Nets could demand a pick to help compensate.

[SHAQATTACK]

Make no mistake, this is not good news.  Surprised as many people think this might be a good thing.

Mark it down, the Nets will go on a mini win streak.  Eventually they will come down to earth but those few wins may be the difference.

would you care to explain how and why the nets will suddenly start winning games? was hollins so bad a coach that he held them back this season? is someone going to step up and take over jack's role?

let's bet and see. if the nets go 7-3 or better over the next 10 games, i owe you a tp. if not, i get one. heck, i'll even give you odds if you want. 

make it a true triboy bet and bet all your TPs that the Nets will win less than 5 games in their next 10.

LoL .....funny stuff right there ......!

[Quetzalcoatl]

Make no mistake, this is not good news.  Surprised as many people think this might be a good thing.

Mark it down, the Nets will go on a mini win streak.  Eventually they will come down to earth but those few wins may be the difference.

would you care to explain how and why the nets will suddenly start winning games? was hollins so bad a coach that he held them back this season? is someone going to step up and take over jack's role?

let's bet and see. if the nets go 7-3 or better over the next 10 games, i owe you a tp. if not, i get one. heck, i'll even give you odds if you want. 

make it a true triboy bet and bet all your TPs that the Nets will win less than 5 games in their next 10.

No guys, come on.  They're totally going to start a win streak against the Spurs tomorrow

[86MaxwellSmart]

and the new GM of the Nets is....................

Isiah Thomas

one can only dream.

[droopdog7]

Make no mistake, this is not good news.  Surprised as many people think this might be a good thing.

Mark it down, the Nets will go on a mini win streak.  Eventually they will come down to earth but those few wins may be the difference.

would you care to explain how and why the nets will suddenly start winning games? was hollins so bad a coach that he held them back this season? is someone going to step up and take over jack's role?

let's bet and see. if the nets go 7-3 or better over the next 10 games, i owe you a tp. if not, i get one. heck, i'll even give you odds if you want. 

How about 6-4?

[SHAQATTACK]

I think it depends on WHO the new GM is.

They need draft picks ,   Because they can't get good players with this cluster mess of a situation.

They need to suck it up ,  admit they failed ,  trade off Lopez for the best pick deal they can get.

Not worry about the Celtics gains ,  that water under the bridge ,   They need new young talent from the draft .  Old star talent is just going to prolong the agony .  More Joe Johsons is NOT the answer.

Sell off Lopez and bottom out .  Start a new piggy bank of picks to build on. ......is the correct move .......have to see if the owners pride / nads get in the way.

[KG Living Legend]

 Tp Shaq, that's exactly how I felt to start the season. You can't GM out of spite.

 Thing is now it's much more realistic that they don't worry about the Celtics making they're next three draft picks.

[Neurotic Guy]

No decent GM makes decisions based on vengeance.  King may have had some ego motivation to minimize the Celtic's benefits from the trade.  However, vengeance and ego thinking is not the type thinking a smart and mature GM is paid to do.  A GMs primary task is to make his club better based on either short or long term planning and/or make his owner $$.  Any  GM spending a minute on his owner's dime trying to screw another franchise is a GM that should not be employed.  A new GM is going to be focused on improving the team and will not care about the Cs pick -- that's history.  The new GM has to be about creating some hope for the future. I think the change is likely to help solidify the 2016 pick as a top 5.

[Csfan1984]

New GM should try to get his 2018 pick back at least. Offer up Young and RHJ for Lee and 2018 pick back. C's can't turn that down can they?

[BDeCosta26]

This is perfect. New GM will come in and realize they are bare to the bone and try and trade Lopez/Thad Young to picks.  That also buys the new GM some time as well.

Still ticked off at those two Nets losses however.

new gm might also come in and make a couple moves to help them win.

With what assets? You can't make chicken salad out of chicken...

They have a $25M expiring deal in Joe Johnson

They have an All-Star-caliber center in Brook Lopez

They have a solid NBA starting PF in Thad Young

They have a couple interesting role players in Bogdanovic, Larkin, Reed that could fit some teams' needs

 You mean nobody has any interest in Joe's 25 million dollar contract.

 If they trade Lopez they are horrible.

 Young you can get a late first for, Bogdanavic is worth even less. Larkin is worth nothing.

Yeah, the only way your getting decent value out of those guys is by trading them for future assets. Your not gonna get back players that are better than those guys in return for trading them.

The only way they'll become more competitive this year is if they make a move to add a decent guy next to Lopez and Young, and what assets to they have to find that? None.

If the next GM has any sense at all, he'll be looking to unload Lopez and Young, who have played about as well as they ever have this year, to replace some of the first rounders they lost to us.

[Emmette Bryant]

For one, i thought the team was outperforming expectations with Hollins as coach.

I agree.  The Nets were playing hard most of the time. I'm really surprised that they fired him.

[konkmv]

Sell lopez young bgdanovic for 3 firsts... try through free agency to overpay some young talent for the next 3 years... next 4-5 years are lost anyway... create a culture