Gallinari & Nerlens Noel are the targets

[Ilikesports17]

Can Gallo play and defend PF? Can he rebound at all?

[alldaboston]

Gallo is overpaid (not hugely) but the larger issue would be his high injury risk.

Here are main reasons a Gallo trade is unlikely:
1)To get Gallo we'd have to give up at least our own pick+the Dallas pick+David Lee. In doing so, we make Denver even worse and hurt our Nets pick's chances. So we'd be left with only a Nets pick that gets one or two spots worse.

2) he plays Jae Crowder's minutes-and Jae Crowder is arguably a better overall player anyway considering his defensive impact.


Just not happening in my eyes.
I mean if the Nuggets decided to give him away for something like our 2016 pick+David Lee then yeah, Ainge takes it. But for anything more he's just not that big of an upgrade considering his salary, position and injury history.

I don't think his position is really an issue since he can easily play the 4 given his height.

[LarBrd33]

Gallinari doesn't do much for us in the long term and it just seems like he's got tons of miles and could be breaking down soon. I'm not seeing the fit

He's a 20 ppg / 6 rpg / .455 3pt% shooter

no he isn't

he's a career 14.5 point scorer with 41% shooting and 37% from three. 

I get the interest, but I don't know why people are acting like he's an all-star.  He's not. 

I was one of the first people on this forum to bring up Gallo as a possibility.  I totally get the fit... but he's getting a little overrated.

[Ilikesports17]

Gallinari doesn't do much for us in the long term and it just seems like he's got tons of miles and could be breaking down soon. I'm not seeing the fit

He's a 20 ppg / 6 rpg / .455 3pt% shooter who can play defense and is 6'10" and only 27.  Those don't exactly grow on trees and he can probably be had for a pick and a role player. 

Not you necessarily, but people drool over Tobias Harris and Rudy Gay on here and he is a far superior player to both.

Whee in gods name did you get those stats?

He's never averaged particularly close to 20 points or 45% from deep

[colincb]

Gallinari doesn't do much for us in the long term and it just seems like he's got tons of miles and could be breaking down soon. I'm not seeing the fit

He's a 20 ppg / 6 rpg / .455 3pt% shooter

no he isn't

he's a career 14.5 point scorer with 41% shooting and 37% from three. 

I get the interest, but I don't know why people are acting like he's an all-star.  He's not. 

I was one of the first people on this forum to bring up Gallo as a possibility.  I totally get the fit... but he's getting a little overrated.

I don't disagree with your overall assessment, but quoting his FG% is pretty useless for a guy that shoots almost half his shots from behind the arc. His 57% TS%, which is an all-in-one stat for 2PT, 3PT, and FT% is 7th best for the top 30 SFs in terms of minutes played this season. and is very slightly below his career TS%. 53% is an average TS%.

He's behind Crowder in TS% (58.1%) THIS year and Crowder's  a much better defender statistically. IOW, Crowder should start over Gallinari at SF, but Gallanari is being paid twice what Crowder gets. He'd be a nice backup, but not at an average of $15+MM per.

[chambers]

Gallo is overpaid (not hugely) but the larger issue would be his high injury risk.

Here are main reasons a Gallo trade is unlikely:
1)To get Gallo we'd have to give up at least our own pick+the Dallas pick+David Lee. In doing so, we make Denver even worse and hurt our Nets pick's chances. So we'd be left with only a Nets pick that gets one or two spots worse.

2) he plays Jae Crowder's minutes-and Jae Crowder is arguably a better overall player anyway considering his defensive impact.


Just not happening in my eyes.
I mean if the Nuggets decided to give him away for something like our 2016 pick+David Lee then yeah, Ainge takes it. But for anything more he's just not that big of an upgrade considering his salary, position and injury history.

I don't think his position is really an issue since he can easily play the 4 given his height.

Can't see Gallo guarding elite PF'S in the playoffs. Theyd just keep going to his guy in the post and hammer him.
He doesn't play PF at all for Denver...maybe against 2nd units he'd be able to play a Jerebko role-but do we wanna give away picks for that?

[LooseCannon]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

[Moranis]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

He isn't a go to scorer.  He is a shooter and unless you shoot like someone like Kevin Durant, those guys are never go to scorers.  Go to scorers have to be able to create their own shot by taking it to the hole or having post up skills good enough to score consistently on anyone.  Gallinari is not that guy.  His ball handling skills are weak and I'm not sure he can even find the paint. 

[Hemingway]

All comes down to cost on Gallanari. Crowder has been great and is getting better at a fast rate as he starts to drive. I wouldn't ,e him to the bench so I wouldn't overpay for Gallinari. If he could play off the bench and sometimes as the 4 and was only a late first or 2 and some guys we don't want next year I'd be ok with it.

[Ilikesports17]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

He isn't a go to scorer.  He is a shooter and unless you shoot like someone like Kevin Durant, those guys are never go to scorers.  Go to scorers have to be able to create their own shot by taking it to the hole or having post up skills good enough to score consistently on anyone.  Gallinari is not that guy.  His ball handling skills are weak and I'm not sure he can even find the paint.

I don't watch any nuggets games so  not sure if this stat is misleading but he is 10th in the league in FTA ahead of Isaiah and .2 fta per game behind James.

That tends to indicate something more than just a shooter

[fairweatherfan]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

He isn't a go to scorer.  He is a shooter and unless you shoot like someone like Kevin Durant, those guys are never go to scorers.  Go to scorers have to be able to create their own shot by taking it to the hole or having post up skills good enough to score consistently on anyone.  Gallinari is not that guy.  His ball handling skills are weak and I'm not sure he can even find the paint.

I don't watch any nuggets games so  not sure if this stat is misleading but he is 10th in the league in FTA ahead of Isaiah and .2 fta per game behind James.

That tends to indicate something more than just a shooter

Yeah 7.1 FTA per game does not indicate a guy who's just spotting up for jumpers.  He also gets about 4 shots per game at the rim, though his percentages aren't great and it's hard to know what context they come it.

I've seen very little of Gallinari since he left the Knicks but the few games I've watched he seems very good at drawing contact, and definitely attacks the basket.  He's a bit like Kelly in that he'll use a 3 fake to set up a drive.

[Rosco917]

Yeah...we don't want a young, athletic, defensive minded center, with size and length, speed and energy, plus additional upside. Who... by the way, is stuck playing out of position, which is teaching him how to stretch his game, like we want.

We're quite happy dreaming of hitting the lottery.   

[Ilikesports17]

Yeah...we don't want a young, athletic, defensive minded center, with size and length, speed and energy, plus additional upside. Who... by the way, is stuck playing out of position, which is teaching him how to stretch his game, like we want.

We're quite happy dreaming of hitting the lottery.   

Lacks strength and any semblance of an offensive game too but that's not the point. I'm sure everyone on here would like Noel. The question is price and Noel won't come cheap.

[Evantime34]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

I don't see him as a go to scorer although as someone pointed out, attempting 7 free throws a game indicates he can carry the offense load for periods. Personally I think of a go to scorer as someone who can create his own shot or a shot for others in crunch time when a basket is needed. Gallo is more of a secondary option IMO.

Gallinari is better as a small ball 4 than a 3, so I see him as a guy you start next to Amir, to better space the floor. So really he would be more of an upgrade over Olynyk than Evan Turner. More importantly he would be a secondary scorer that will space the floor and take some of the burden off Thomas.

I'd rather not give up two firsts but if we are giving up the Mavs first and the Philly second (which should be at 31 and essentially a first) then I would absolutely do that.

[LooseCannon]

Gallinari is a great fit for the Celtics.  A potential go-to scorer at SF who can hit a three and could be an upgrade over Evan Turner on defense.  I'd give up two non-Nets firsts for him.

He isn't a go to scorer.  He is a shooter and unless you shoot like someone like Kevin Durant, those guys are never go to scorers.  Go to scorers have to be able to create their own shot by taking it to the hole or having post up skills good enough to score consistently on anyone.  Gallinari is not that guy.  His ball handling skills are weak and I'm not sure he can even find the paint.

He is 14th in isolation attempts, so it's a role that he sort of plays in Denver.  Like Thomas, he doesn't really have much firepower around him, so it's possible that putting them together will alleviate the pressure and allow both of them to have more opportunities to score.

I'll also note that Kevin Durant once said that the toughest defenders he has faced are Tony Allen and Gallinari.  He's not quick, but he is long and can probably do a good job against scoring SFs who can play PF in a smallball lineup.

He's young enough that it will take a legitimate offer to pry him away from Denver's core that includes a three-headed center that I don't think is likely to be broken up until someone is close to free agency.  They've got Faried.  Wil Barton is doing great coming off the bench.  Gary Harris is still only 21.  Mudiay may either be a bust or a project.  I'm not convinced that Denver will decide to trade Gallo when they might be a breakthrough season from a player or two next year from being a playoff team on the rise.  They also have up to three extra firsts in the next two years, so they are not starving to stockpile picks.