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Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2016, 09:49:07 AM »

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So some would maybe trade smart, who has a just to be a decent nba player down the road (but could be nothing more than a role player) for star?  Yeah, no **** Sherlock.

And hell no, there will be no trading for Ben Simmons unless you're giving up a superstar.  You can have the #2 pick in the draft and not have enough to trade to #1.  Simmons will be virtually untradeable.
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Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2016, 09:52:16 AM »

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He is a starter...he needs a scoring point guard next to him...not bradley

I was at the game tonight and we would've won the game had Bradley been there and Smart not.

Bradley was sorely missed guarding Jackson and for his 3 ball. At the end and for long stretches of the game, IT was the only 3,point threat on the floor

I love Smart's hard-nosed play, but I had some big concerns after watching him tonight.

Bad shot selection, unsure handle and losing both the psychological as well as physical war with Stanley Johnson all concern me. His durability given his intense style of play also concerns me.

If a star becomes available, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to make him the centerpiece of the trade.
Smart for Stanley Johnson would be a sweet trade.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2016, 10:03:46 AM »

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He is a starter...he needs a scoring point guard next to him...not bradley

I was at the game tonight and we would've won the game had Bradley been there and Smart not.

Bradley was sorely missed guarding Jackson and for his 3 ball. At the end and for long stretches of the game, IT was the only 3,point threat on the floor

I love Smart's hard-nosed play, but I had some big concerns after watching him tonight.

Bad shot selection, unsure handle and losing both the psychological as well as physical war with Stanley Johnson all concern me. His durability given his intense style of play also concerns me.

If a star becomes available, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to make him the centerpiece of the trade.
Smart for Stanley Johnson would be a sweet trade.

Interesting. Stanley's rookie campaign offensively is quite comparable to that of Smart, yet you guys seemingly give him a pass.

Smart's shot selection is poor. But he's also been injured one way or another since the Summer League. Very very doubtful, percentage wise, that what we're seeing from him will be representative of how he'll be as a scorer.

But I guess instant gratification, with a dosage the grass is greener on the other side, trumps all.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2016, 10:16:55 AM »

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I think he is a piece that could be included in a trade or a piece that grows into the starter on this team. 


I think a lot of it depends on how the Celtics view Bradley and Thomas.   If they are happy with those two as two of the top three guards on this team going forward, I think the chance of Smart moving increases.  I think they need to add a different type of guard to the mix.  One with talent and size. 

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2016, 10:17:04 AM »

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He is a starter...he needs a scoring point guard next to him...not bradley

I was at the game tonight and we would've won the game had Bradley been there and Smart not.

Bradley was sorely missed guarding Jackson and for his 3 ball. At the end and for long stretches of the game, IT was the only 3,point threat on the floor

I love Smart's hard-nosed play, but I had some big concerns after watching him tonight.

Bad shot selection, unsure handle and losing both the psychological as well as physical war with Stanley Johnson all concern me. His durability given his intense style of play also concerns me.

If a star becomes available, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to make him the centerpiece of the trade.
Smart for Stanley Johnson would be a sweet trade.

Interesting. Stanley's rookie campaign offensively is quite comparable to that of Smart, yet you guys seemingly give him a pass.

Smart's shot selection is poor. But he's also been injured one way or another since the Summer League. Very very doubtful, percentage wise, that what we're seeing from him will be representative of how he'll be as a scorer.

But I guess instant gratification, with a dosage the grass is greener on the other side, trumps all.
Geez I sure hope he improves from 32 percent.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2016, 10:45:49 AM »

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I'm a Marcus Smart fan, i really appreciate his hard nose defense and intangibles, but he has to learn where his scoring opportunities are. He takes way to many off balance 3's, he hurries his midrange shots, and forces shots at the rim. As aggressive and hyper as his D is, he needs to let the game come to him on the other side of the court, and relax. 


Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2016, 11:02:08 AM »

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If Smart is our future, the future is not going to be good!  I would trade him in a second for Stanley Johnson.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2016, 11:13:41 AM »

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I don't think there's a player on the roster that Ainge would hesitate to deal if a young star became available, besides maybe Isaiah depending on who was coming back. He is probably not actively looking to deal Smart, but he also isn't penciling Smart in at PG for our 2018 starting lineup.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2016, 11:31:00 AM »

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Smart will be at least an awesome roleplayer with a long career in this league, and potentially a multi-year all star if his scoring improves.

Will he do it in green? I really hope so, but with Danny you never know.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2016, 11:52:41 AM »

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He's not the future of the franchise.  He'll be at worst a very good role player, and I'd like to keep him around, but I don't think he will be leading us to Banner #18 and I would have no qualms about dealing him for someone who could.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2016, 12:21:17 PM »

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The sort of leap Crowder has made on the offensive end this year makes me a bit more optimistic about Smart.

If 25-year-old 2nd-rounder Jae Crowder can go from one-way defensive specialist to two-way stud in one year, you have to assume 21-year-old lottery pick Marcus Smart can as well.
Smart is about to turn the corner on the O. I want to wait until after this draft to make a trade. I think we use this year to watch and see how our young guys do. If we can do a 2 for 1 and trade Zeller, JJ, Lee Turner or even johnson to let Mickey and Rozier play it would be good. Get another prospect. We need to have 3 slots by draft time I hope to see the NBA trade deadline explode. Exciting times!!!!
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Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2016, 12:31:43 PM »

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The sort of leap Crowder has made on the offensive end this year makes me a bit more optimistic about Smart.

If 25-year-old 2nd-rounder Jae Crowder can go from one-way defensive specialist to two-way stud in one year, you have to assume 21-year-old lottery pick Marcus Smart can as well.

This is the second time I've seen this in as many days...When did Jae Crowder become a two way stud? Sure he has strung together a nice group of games as of late, but a stud on offense? 14 points a game on 45% shooting from the field and 35% from behind the arc are nice numbers for a role player. He has certainly exceeded expectations and I am very happy with his contributions and improvements this season...However I think he has a long way to go to be referred to as a stud.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2016, 12:34:21 PM »

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Yes.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2016, 12:37:53 PM »

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Yes. Good passing, defense, effort, size, teammate, leader, and still young. He is Kawhi at PG with development and of course if they actually let him be the full time PG.

Re: Is Smart really the future?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2016, 01:01:31 PM »

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His shooting has been poor.  Even as a huge fan of his game can't deny it.  He hopefully gets better there.

He could be a really big part of a great team scoring about 15 points per game with his defense and passing in addition so that is not huge worry for me.  I am still confident he will put in the effort and continue to improve.
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