Massive overreaction.

The class is weak after Simmons but calling the #2 pick worthless is ridiculous.

Ingram looks like #2 rn and looks like he could be a stud scorer in the NBA kris Dunn looks like a really nice pure pg in the john wall breed. Basically really good at everything but shooting.

Jaylen brown is pretty similar to Stanley and justice but he is a more explosive athlete who is better at getting to the rim. Unfortunately he's a poor Shooter.

There are some wild cards like bender and some guys I don't love like lab and Murray and poeltl.

Ultimately I think that it will be Simmons a big gap then Ingram then a gap then Dunn brown lab(who I think will get it together) then maybe a wildcard sneaks his way in there and then another drop off to the rest of the draft.

That means if we want good talent we need a top 6 pick and the nets  pick is pretty much sure to provide that

Ingram could legitimately challenge Simmons for #1.

Ingram is 2nd best
But there is no way he is challenging Simmons for the top spot

Simmons easily looks like a franchise player
The gap is wide enough between him and the other prospects

Quote from: Ilikesports17 on December 30, 2015, 02:03:44 AM

Massive overreaction.

The class is weak after Simmons but calling the #2 pick worthless is ridiculous.

Ingram looks like #2 rn and looks like he could be a stud scorer in the NBA kris Dunn looks like a really nice pure pg in the john wall breed. Basically really good at everything but shooting.

Jaylen brown is pretty similar to Stanley and justice but he is a more explosive athlete who is better at getting to the rim. Unfortunately he's a poor Shooter.

There are some wild cards like bender and some guys I don't love like lab and Murray and poeltl.

Ultimately I think that it will be Simmons a big gap then Ingram then a gap then Dunn brown lab(who I think will get it together) then maybe a wildcard sneaks his way in there and then another drop off to the rest of the draft.

That means if we want good talent we need a top 6 pick and the nets  pick is pretty much sure to provide that

That's all we need are more 1,2,or 3s that can't shoot to give to Stevens for his ball movement offense that depends on good shooting, especially from the 3pt line. I'm hoping we can use these picks to bring in someone like Butler or Cousins.

This is where my head is at as well.  Calling the pick "worthless"  was harsh but I see nothing in ingram that projects better than say RJ.  This team is already loaded with young potential...  We need a stud. And unless we get the 1st pick., trading it seems like the best route to get one.

From what I've watched so far, I'd be just as happy with Ingram as Simmons. He already has a sweet jumper from 3, and really looks like a Durant-lite to me.

Jaylen Brown and Bender are the consolation prizes. Each have potential to be big time players, but also seem a bit riskier to me (Brown - shot; Bender - athleticism).

I don't like Scal, and I'd prefer not to pick Dunn or Murray do to guys already on our roster but a bit later in top 10 I do like Ellenson and Poeltl. Ellenson reminds me of a Kevin Love/Troy Murphy type, and Poeltl looks like a legit 2-way C prospect to me.

Farther down the board Dwayne Bacon, Malik Beasley and Malik Newman intrigue me as scorers.

Quote from: Irish Stew on December 30, 2015, 06:18:45 AM

Quote from: Ilikesports17 on December 30, 2015, 02:03:44 AM

Massive overreaction.

The class is weak after Simmons but calling the #2 pick worthless is ridiculous.

Ingram looks like #2 rn and looks like he could be a stud scorer in the NBA kris Dunn looks like a really nice pure pg in the john wall breed. Basically really good at everything but shooting.

Jaylen brown is pretty similar to Stanley and justice but he is a more explosive athlete who is better at getting to the rim. Unfortunately he's a poor Shooter.

There are some wild cards like bender and some guys I don't love like lab and Murray and poeltl.

Ultimately I think that it will be Simmons a big gap then Ingram then a gap then Dunn brown lab(who I think will get it together) then maybe a wildcard sneaks his way in there and then another drop off to the rest of the draft.

That means if we want good talent we need a top 6 pick and the nets  pick is pretty much sure to provide that

That's all we need are more 1,2,or 3s that can't shoot to give to Stevens for his ball movement offense that depends on good shooting, especially from the 3pt line. I'm hoping we can use these picks to bring in someone like Butler or Cousins.

This is where my head is at as well.  Calling the pick "worthless"  was harsh but I see nothing in ingram that projects better than say RJ.  This team is already loaded with young potential...  We need a stud. And unless we get the 1st pick., trading it seems like the best route to get one.

I mean do most drafts have multiple franchise players?

Wiggins and Parker in '14 I suppose.

Quote from: Ilikesports17 on December 30, 2015, 02:14:09 PM

Quote from: __ramonezy__ on December 30, 2015, 07:25:39 AM

Quote from: Irish Stew on December 30, 2015, 06:18:45 AM

Quote from: Ilikesports17 on December 30, 2015, 02:03:44 AM

Massive overreaction.

The class is weak after Simmons but calling the #2 pick worthless is ridiculous.

Ingram looks like #2 rn and looks like he could be a stud scorer in the NBA kris Dunn looks like a really nice pure pg in the john wall breed. Basically really good at everything but shooting.

Jaylen brown is pretty similar to Stanley and justice but he is a more explosive athlete who is better at getting to the rim. Unfortunately he's a poor Shooter.

There are some wild cards like bender and some guys I don't love like lab and Murray and poeltl.

Ultimately I think that it will be Simmons a big gap then Ingram then a gap then Dunn brown lab(who I think will get it together) then maybe a wildcard sneaks his way in there and then another drop off to the rest of the draft.

That means if we want good talent we need a top 6 pick and the nets  pick is pretty much sure to provide that

That's all we need are more 1,2,or 3s that can't shoot to give to Stevens for his ball movement offense that depends on good shooting, especially from the 3pt line. I'm hoping we can use these picks to bring in someone like Butler or Cousins.

This is where my head is at as well.  Calling the pick "worthless"  was harsh but I see nothing in ingram that projects better than say RJ.  This team is already loaded with young potential...  We need a stud. And unless we get the 1st pick., trading it seems like the best route to get one.

I mean do most drafts have multiple franchise players?

Wiggins and Parker in '14 I suppose.

they were expected to be franchise players along with Embiid but so far Wiggins has looked like a solid starter, Parker is having difficulty getting going and Embiid hasn't set foot on the court.

Last year it was Towns and Okafor.  Both have shown some skills -- Towns more overall game than Okafor  -- but neither is looking like a franchise player.

I'm past the point of ever looking at a draftee as a sure-fire franchise player.  certainly not while they're still on their rookie deals.  Simmons may become one but I suspect he won't be at that level until having played 3-4 years.

I don't agree that Towns isn't looking like a franchise player. Most franchise players actually take a few years to look like one.

Harden, Curry, George, Butler, and Kawai are probably top 10 players. All those guys are franchise players and none looked like it as rookies. With how young players are coming into the league and how developed they are when they come in, players don't come in and dominate immediately anymore.

I've  taken in a few college games and I've  been less than impressed with the prospects set to come out in next year's  draft. 

After Simmons this entire class looks like D-league fodder. Can someone shed some light on All-star potential prospects based on performance, not hype (Skal and Murray look like a bad joke),  expected to come out next year. Cuz with a class this awful even a number two pick is worthless, unless we trade it now.

you might actually try visiting a few of the better websites on the draft to inform your writing. there are a number of good players to be had in the draft, as there always are.

try this site for starters: draftexpress.com