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Bobby Portis
« on: December 25, 2015, 04:18:15 PM »

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That kid looks terrific. He plays with such a motor, runs the floor, attacks the glass, and is now hitting 3's. It just makes me wonder if we had taken him instead of Rozier would he have already supplanted Lee in the rotation?

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2015, 05:18:10 PM »

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Knowing DA and BS no he wouldn't have. C's are always too committed to vets and building value.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2015, 05:23:47 PM »

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 Dumb pick then, Dumb pick now. He was clearly the best player on the board and it wasn't even close.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2015, 05:28:04 PM »

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 Rozier does have that dog mentality. But Portis has it times 10, and he's 6'10" he has a KG like scowl on his face. Bad decision.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2015, 05:34:50 PM »

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That kid looks terrific. He plays with such a motor, runs the floor, attacks the glass, and is now hitting 3's. It just makes me wonder if we had taken him instead of Rozier would he have already supplanted Lee in the rotation?

Probably not. Mickey looks every bit as ready to be getting some PT, yet he isn't.

Portis was eating the bench just the same until injuries occurred, then he got his opportunity.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2015, 05:38:43 PM »

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Yep, he would. He's buried behind a deep, much better, and well establiahed front court than Boston's. Mickey can't hold his jock... shouldn't use the two names in the same sentence. Rozier was a horrible pick. Expect a re- redo on Smart this year with BKN pick... Kris Dunn. That's all DA is comfortable with.
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Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2015, 05:43:54 PM »

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Yep, he would. He's buried behind a deep, much better, and well establiahed front court than Boston's. Mickey can't hold his jock... shouldn't use the two names in the same sentence. Rozier was a horrible pick. Expect a re- redo on Smart this year with BKN pick... Kris Dunn. That's all DA is comfortable with.

You can talk all you want about their units being better, etc., etc. but deeper they're not.

Portis wouldn't be getting playing time ahead of Sullinger-Olynyk-Johnson-Zeller add to that Lee and that's 5 players ahead of him depth wise, to say nothing of all the players Stevens uses when going small (Crowder/Jerebko) who'd be getting playing time ahead of Portis.

The reality in all of this, you can think what you want of Portis or how much of a stud he is, but he wouldn't be leap frogging any of these guys unless injuries occurred.

The Celtics bigs are much deeper than Chicago's and even then it took injuries for him to get playing time.

In fact, with all the NBA caliber bigs we have, there wouldn't be room for Portis to dress in the first place to get playing time.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2015, 05:52:14 PM »

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Yep, he would. He's buried behind a deep, much better, and well establiahed front court than Boston's. Mickey can't hold his jock... shouldn't use the two names in the same sentence. Rozier was a horrible pick. Expect a re- redo on Smart this year with BKN pick... Kris Dunn. That's all DA is comfortable with.





 Tarheels, I have to agree with you, if Danny takes another guy under 6'3" player, with the Brooklyn pick Im going to do a backfkip off the top of my house.

 I'll stream it Live should draw some traffic to CB.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2015, 06:00:23 PM »

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I know we are all excited that Hunter and Mickey look to be solid players, but that doesn't mean that the #16 pick had to be a surprise rather than more obvious guys like Portis or RHJ. I know it's still possible that Rozier turns into a very good player, but it's going to be a while before we realize that potential.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2015, 06:01:49 PM »

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Edit: This got posted in the wrong thread, what the heck?

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 06:16:13 PM »

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Yep, he would. He's buried behind a deep, much better, and well establiahed front court than Boston's. Mickey can't hold his jock... shouldn't use the two names in the same sentence. Rozier was a horrible pick. Expect a re- redo on Smart this year with BKN pick... Kris Dunn. That's all DA is comfortable with.

You can talk all you want about their units being better, etc., etc. but deeper they're not.

Portis wouldn't be getting playing time ahead of Sullinger-Olynyk-Johnson-Zeller add to that Lee and that's 5 players ahead of him depth wise, to say nothing of all the players Stevens uses when going small (Crowder/Jerebko) who'd be getting playing time ahead of Portis.

The reality in all of this, you can think what you want of Portis or how much of a stud he is, but he wouldn't be leap frogging any of these guys unless injuries occurred.

The Celtics bigs are much deeper than Chicago's and even then it took injuries for him to get playing time.

In fact, with all the NBA caliber bigs we have, there wouldn't be room for Portis to dress in the first place to get playing time.

BC, you know I have much respect for you.. didn't mean it as a personal attack. Just think Portis is going to be really good and was shocked at the selection. They're very high on him in CHI
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 06:24:43 PM »

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Yep, he would. He's buried behind a deep, much better, and well establiahed front court than Boston's. Mickey can't hold his jock... shouldn't use the two names in the same sentence. Rozier was a horrible pick. Expect a re- redo on Smart this year with BKN pick... Kris Dunn. That's all DA is comfortable with.

You can talk all you want about their units being better, etc., etc. but deeper they're not.

Portis wouldn't be getting playing time ahead of Sullinger-Olynyk-Johnson-Zeller add to that Lee and that's 5 players ahead of him depth wise, to say nothing of all the players Stevens uses when going small (Crowder/Jerebko) who'd be getting playing time ahead of Portis.

The reality in all of this, you can think what you want of Portis or how much of a stud he is, but he wouldn't be leap frogging any of these guys unless injuries occurred.

The Celtics bigs are much deeper than Chicago's and even then it took injuries for him to get playing time.

In fact, with all the NBA caliber bigs we have, there wouldn't be room for Portis to dress in the first place to get playing time.

BC, you know I have much respect for you.. didn't mean it as a personal attack. Just think Portis is going to be really good and was shocked at the selection. They're very high on him in CHI

I didn't took it as such, I argue heatedly (comes across more heatedly than I intend to, just the way I talk), no worries hehe :) And I know that triboy's fanaticism with Mickey sours many on the player. But for all the hyperboles he presents, I do think Mickey should be a player in the NBA right now until shown otherwise. I think his defense alone, in a none-deep bench should assure him a place in a rotation just about anywhere from what I've seen so far from him. But it's all guesswork at this point regardless.

Anyways, the point in all of this is that whatever perceived talent gap there is between Portis or Mickey, we have too many NBA-ready players and veterans already in place to give playing time for a rookie even if he deserves it. That's simply the pecking order of things (and of course other posters would be quick to point out that the reason he's not getting playing time it's because the coach thinks he's not ready to play in the NBA, which I think is the wrong way of looking at things).

All this to say that esteem for a player's skill/talent is not the issue here.

I'll say this though, if Ainge thought enough of him to pick him high in the draft there may have been chances that Ainge doesn't go into free-agency and add two bigs in Johnson and Lee (though Lee is probably inconsequential as he was more valuable than Wallace, and even Johnson's value is in his contract, so maybe even then, so who knows), and maybe in that scenario the chances are increased of him earning a spot in the rotation.

But depth alone makes it too difficult as it is because he'd not be able to dress, and without dressing he doesn't even get a few minutes of playing time in blowouts and what not. Depth is too much of an issue with the Celtics, which really isn't with Chicago. They're more skillful, but the roadblock is thinner.

I mean, Zeller is not playing all that much for us as it is and he's shown that at the very least he can play in the NBA. He's young and it's in our best interest to play him as much as we can going in to free-agency, but still we haven't even as Lee to look as the odd man out.

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2015, 06:25:06 PM »

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Portis is the guy many wanted, I knew Lee was a rental, Sully is a FA, and I wasn't really sure he would condition himself, and he didn't, KO isn't the answer at PF, Amir is OK.

Portis was best player available. IMO

Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2015, 06:30:55 PM »

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We are 30 games into these guys' careers. So let's be patient before we say with confidence who's the better player. Fact is, you can't tell right now.
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Re: Bobby Portis
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2015, 06:35:20 PM »

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We are 30 games into these guys' careers. So let's be patient before we say with confidence who's the better player. Fact is, you can't tell right now.

Uh yeah we can. We can definitely tell how good someone is going to be judging by the first half of their rookie seasons. Take the Celtics organization for example. They knew firsthand how mediocre Chauncey Billups and Joe Johnson were going to be mid-way through their rookie years. Look how that turned out.