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Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2016, 10:42:28 PM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
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Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2016, 10:49:22 PM »

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I remember, last season but one, I suggested in the trade forum that should we land the number one pick we should trade to New Orleans for Anthony Davis straight up. We didn't get the number one pick, and now we are hoping Marcus Smart is the gem he could possibly become. water under the bridge.

Anyway,  right now for me it would depend on whether I want to build this contender Lakers' style (free agency coups) in which I would vouch for Anthony Davis' track record, or Celtics' style (drafting, and trading assets), in which case I want Towns' upside

New Orleans wouldn't have traded him for Wiggins.
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Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2016, 10:49:26 PM »

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Right now? The brow, no question.
I mean... I'm not big into advanced stats so I'm sure someone can give me a clear reason why Davis is obviously better... but I have to admit I genuinely don't know what that reason is.

Forget about long-term, where it seems Towns has a chance to be significantly better than Davis (Towns rookie stats are significantly better than Davis rookie stats)...

Explain to me why Davis is obviously better right now.

Davis Per-36 this season:  23.6 points, 10.4 rebounds, 1.9 assists, 1.3 steals, 2.4 blocks with 49%/29%/76% shooting.

Towns Per-36 this season:  19.9 points, 12 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 0.8 steals, 2.2 blocks, 54%/39%/85%

Thing is, Towns is improving daily.  His role is also different than Davis.  Seems to me, Towns might be a better rebounder already and has the capacity to be a better offensive player already given his shooting range.   Also... both teams are garbage.  Wolves have 16 wins.  Pelicans have 18 wins.

Regardless, if Towns follows the path of most star prospects, he's going to make a dramatic leap from year 1 to year 2.  It's freaky that in year 1, he already looks like he might be close to what Davis is in year 4.

We're still learning what both of these guys can be, but obviously the rookie can show dramatic improvement over the next few years.   Here's a look at them both over their most recent 10 games:

Davis past 10 games:  25.3 points, 9.2 rebounds, 2 assists, 1.3 steals, 2.1 blocks with 52%/33%/74% shooting in 35.8mpg (+/- of -2.4)

Towns past 10 games: 21.6 points, 12.7 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 0.7 steals, 2.2 blocks, 60%/43%/85% in 34.2mpg (+/- of +0.9)
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Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2016, 11:17:18 PM »

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Here's Towns 32 points tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jlDszQyd8

He's already really really good.  His range makes him special.
That video is insane. He looks like an under control Demarcus Cousins. I completely agree, go with Towns. For a guy who has progressed exponentially season after season, from high school to the pros, to suggest that he won't continue to improve is a little bit absurd. But even if he does flatline for some reason, he is already within range of being as good as AD. Right now, assuming no further progress, Towns is already bigger and stronger than AD, with a better shot. AD is quicker, more athletic, and better at defense.

Also, unrelated to the topic, I'm surprised to see the chemistry that Towns has with Dieng. But are considered centers, but both are solid defensively and can guard both PF/C positions. And on offense, with a team with very little shooting, both have nice inside out games with good midrange shots. Dieng is also a crafty player, and a good passer.
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Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2016, 11:24:05 PM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
whaaaaaaaaaaat? Are you serious?  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv6TE-MpIM

There is well, that guy.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 11:27:51 PM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
whaaaaaaaaaaat? Are you serious?  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv6TE-MpIM

There is well, that guy.
Great player. Future NBA all star but not on Town's level.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2016, 11:40:00 PM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
whaaaaaaaaaaat? Are you serious?  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv6TE-MpIM

There is well, that guy.
Great player. Future NBA all star but not on Town's level.

Again, we'll have to see.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2016, 11:52:06 PM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
whaaaaaaaaaaat? Are you serious?  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv6TE-MpIM

There is well, that guy.
Great player. Future NBA all star but not on Town's level.

Again, we'll have to see.

"We'll have to see" could be said about anyone, since the future is unknown.

But Towns is head and shoulders better currently. There's really little to debate on that in my opinion.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2016, 12:08:11 AM »

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Is it insane to even consider Towns over Davis at this point?

Yes.  We don't even know if Towns is the best big man in his draft class yet.
whaaaaaaaaaaat? Are you serious?  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv6TE-MpIM

There is well, that guy.
Great player. Future NBA all star but not on Town's level.

Again, we'll have to see.

"We'll have to see" could be said about anyone, since the future is unknown.

But Towns is head and shoulders better currently. There's really little to debate on that in my opinion.

So, we'll have to see.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2016, 12:19:06 AM »

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Gotta say I'm still an AD guy until Towns proves me otherwise.

 Anthony Davis has proven thus far that he can produce at an elite level until I see Towns do that on a consistent basis I won't pick him over AD.

To me at this point Towns is a B+ Davis is an A.

Relatively speaking the gap between two may be small but when you considered that AD is already at the highest level it may as well be a valley.

Personally I don't think that Towns will ever be as good as Anthony Davis in terms of peak output

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2016, 12:39:42 AM »

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on a winning team, Davis is a mvp candidate.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2016, 05:17:21 AM »

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on a winning team, Davis is a mvp candidate.
if he was an mvp candidate, they'd be a winning team.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2016, 09:07:08 PM »

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With Davis once again shut down for the rest of the season and Towns averaging 21.4 points, 10.8 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.5 blocks, 1 steal with 56% shooting in 36mpg since the all-star break... Wondering if anyone else has changed their view and would rather build around Towns heading forward. 

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2016, 09:25:30 PM »

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I'm a huge Towns fan. As a basketball card collector, I'm preparing to stock up on his good rookie cards now because I don't think he'll fall susceptible to the typical second-year price drop.

I like Towns' range and the fight in him. He is very critical of himself, even when he personally performs very well. Davis still seems to lack that day-to-day killer instinct that I think Towns has that is being fostered by KG. That, and AD is quickly approaching the "injury-prone" label.

Re: Pick one to build a team around: Anthony Davis or Karl Towns
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2016, 09:44:57 PM »

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AD

I'm not sure Towns will ever be as much of a matchup nightmare scorer as AD already is.  When picking a build-around guy, my first priority is choosing a guy who can be unstoppable in multiple seven game series.
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