Author Topic: Draft Prospects besides Simmons  (Read 5947 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2015, 12:28:58 AM »

Offline loco_91

  • Bailey Howell
  • **
  • Posts: 2087
  • Tommy Points: 145
Not much love on here for Bender. He's the prototype of a modern big man - shoots 3's and makes plays from the perimeter, switches screens and protects the rim. I think a lot of teams will regret passing on him in the top 3-5.
Completely agree.

This is true, but Bender is the unknown right now. He's playing in the Israeli Basketball Premier League not an American university. Will he gain hype when he comes over? Probably. But like Prozingis he's gonna fly under the radar for awhile. I think after Porzingis' start it's gonna be hard for anyone to pass on Bender if he shows the same skill set in any Combine events. He's def in my top 5.

Simmons, Brown, Ingram, Labissiere, Bender
Tbh all these prospects are unknowns right now, it's not like we've seen a huge NCAA sample. But yeah, we'll probably have a little less info on Bender come draft time than we'll have on the US guys. So maybe he'll go way too high (like Dante Exum) or way too low (like Clint Capela).

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2015, 01:56:02 AM »

Offline Future Celtics Owner

  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3097
  • Tommy Points: 191
  • Celtic's only raise championship Banners
We already have a thread for this.

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2015, 02:02:09 AM »

Offline alldaboston

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4170
  • Tommy Points: 324
jamaal murray?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2015, 02:34:26 AM »

Offline alewilliam789

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1605
  • Tommy Points: 76
An option for our 2nd-4th pick in the first, depending where (or if) those prospective picks fall, is Caris Levert of Michigan.  He was considered to be a late lottery/mid 1st type of player last year.  However, he got a foot injury over the summer, was inconsistent to start the year, and then had to shut it down early to fix his injury.  Now 100%, he's a 6'7" guard with length who's averaging 19/6/4 per game, to go with good on-ball defense.  He's shooting 54% from the floor and 48% from deep, and 89% at the foul line on six attempts per game.

He can play anywhere from point to sf, both offensively and defensively.  Imagine if Evan Turner could shoot better, got to the line more, and was a bit quicker, and that's what Levert might be able to wind up as in the NBA.  I don't think he'll be a star, but his versatility gives him a lot of value, especially with a coach like Stevens who experiments with lineups because he can.  And, as a senior, he should be able to crack an NBA rotation very quickly.  Also, despite being a senior, he's still young.  Doesn't turn 22 until next August, which is more like a junior in NCAA basketball years, so he's got a little bit more growth in his game than your average senior draftee.

Completely agree about Caris Levert and he would be a fantastic bench player with potential, but I don't agree with taking him at 2-4. I think his range falls a bit in between 9-20. If he falls to our pick or if he gains a lot of hype during the combine and workouts and the Dallas pick hits than we could probably snag him there in the late lottery.

For me I loved Ingram coming out of high school. There was no wing/ forward that carried as much potential as him because he could create offense for himself, handle the rock, and he had the quickness and athleticism to stick as a wing player. If he keeps playing like he's been doing there is no player that I would rather have the Celtics draft if we land a top pick.

If we end up with the 6-8th overall pick I think Poetl would be a good fit, but I want to see him play a bit more because I'm not completely sold on his skillset fully translating to the next level. In college there are very few post player that mathc up with a player of his size. That will change in the NBA.

For abstract prospects nobody is looking at, Demetrius Jackson is the most underrated point guard in collegiate basketball. Statistically there are few players that have done, or that are doing what he's done this year. He also has the complete package of athleticism that will help his game  translate too. Of course we have a logjam at point guard and drafting another probably wouldn't help that.

Justin Jackson is a prospect a lot of people have probably heard, but overall I think he's pretty underrated considering we might be able to land him with our own pick. For Jackson his value lies in his ability to score, handle the rock, his physical tools, and his youth. If we drafted Jackson it would probably be to groom him to become our starter because I doubt he would flat out take the spot from Jae unless we shipped him out in a trade. He's long, versatile, and I think his shot will come once he gets a couple of easier looks that could come courtesy of Isaiah Thomas. Overall if we end up keeping all our picks I'd be amazed, but it happened last year so be prepared for it to happen again.

A player not many people are talking about from Connecticut is Daniel Hamilton. He another large wing at 6'7", but literally can do everything for the Huskies whether it be rebounding, spotting up, scoring like he did against Maryland, or facilitating. If he came out I wouldn't be opposed to the Celtics taking a look at him in the late lottery with a Maverick's pick.

As for small schools, Bucknell has a deadly shooter in Chris Hass. When he get's going he is deadly from the 3 point line. He's been a little inconsistent this year, but he's a senior and he's good prospect that we could be looking to steal in the second round and watch as our invest doubles.

I think a couple more prospects will come out of the cracks as the season progresses whether it be foreign or domestic. We just have to have the scouting chops to find the right ones.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2015, 02:49:57 AM by alewilliam789 »

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2015, 02:52:51 AM »

Offline tarheelsxxiii

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8593
  • Tommy Points: 1389
An option for our 2nd-4th pick in the first, depending where (or if) those prospective picks fall, is Caris Levert of Michigan.  He was considered to be a late lottery/mid 1st type of player last year.  However, he got a foot injury over the summer, was inconsistent to start the year, and then had to shut it down early to fix his injury.  Now 100%, he's a 6'7" guard with length who's averaging 19/6/4 per game, to go with good on-ball defense.  He's shooting 54% from the floor and 48% from deep, and 89% at the foul line on six attempts per game.

He can play anywhere from point to sf, both offensively and defensively.  Imagine if Evan Turner could shoot better, got to the line more, and was a bit quicker, and that's what Levert might be able to wind up as in the NBA.  I don't think he'll be a star, but his versatility gives him a lot of value, especially with a coach like Stevens who experiments with lineups because he can.  And, as a senior, he should be able to crack an NBA rotation very quickly.  Also, despite being a senior, he's still young.  Doesn't turn 22 until next August, which is more like a junior in NCAA basketball years, so he's got a little bit more growth in his game than your average senior draftee.

Completely agree about Caris Levert and he would be a fantastic bench player with potential, but I don't agree with taking him at 2-4. I think his range falls a bit in between 9-20. If he falls to our pick or if he gains a lot of hype during the combine and workouts and the Dallas pick hits than we could probably snag him there in the late lottery.

For me I loved Ingram coming out of high school. There was no wing/ forward that carried as much potential as him because he could create offense for himself, handle the rock, and he had the quickness and athleticism to stick as a wing player. If he keeps playing like he's been doing there is no player that I would rather have the Celtics draft if we land a top pick.

If we end up with the 6-8th overall pick I think Poetl would be a good fit, but I want to see him play a bit more because I'm not completely sold on his skillset fully translating to the next level. In college there are very few post player that mathc up with a player of his size. That will change in the NBA.

For abstract prospects nobody is looking at, Demetrius Jackson is the most underrated point guard in collegiate basketball. Statistically there are few players that have done, or that are doing what he's done this year. He also has the complete package of athleticism that will help his game  translate too. Of course we have a logjam at point guard and drafting another probably wouldn't help that.

Justin Jackson is a prospect a lot of people have probably heard, but overall I think he's pretty underrated considering we might be able to land him with our own pick. For Jackson his value lies in his ability to score, handle the rock, his physical tools, and his youth. If we drafted Jackson it would probably be to groom him to become our starter because I doubt he would flat out take the spot from Jae unless we shipped him out in a trade. He's long, versatile, and I think his shot will come once he gets a couple of easier looks that could come courtesy of Isaiah Thomas. Overall if we end up keeping all our picks I'd be amazed, but it happened last year so be prepared for it to happen again.

A player not many people are talking about from Connecticut is Daniel Hamilton. He another large wing at 6'7", but literally can do everything for the Huskies whether it be rebounding, spotting up, scoring like he did against Maryland, or facilitating. If he came out I wouldn't be opposed to the Celtics taking a look at him in the late lottery with a Maverick's pick.

As for small schools, Bucknell has a deadly shooter in Chris Hass. When he get's going he is deadly from the 3 point line. He's been a little inconsistent this year, but he's a senior and he's good prospect that we could be looking to steal in the second round and watch as our invest doubles.

I think a couple more prospects will come out of the cracks as the season progresses whether it be foreign or domestic. We just have to have the scouting chops to find the right ones.

Givony now has Ingram at 2, Bender at 4, Dunn at 5, followed by Brown (6) and Murray (7), Poeltl at 9, and D. Jackson at 12. You may be onto something. I imagine it happens because it's the pick we ought not to make, only because we seem to reach for undersized guards every year.
The Tarstradamus Group, LLC

Re: Draft Prospects besides Simmons
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2015, 04:47:02 PM »

Offline mef730

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4782
  • Tommy Points: 1036
An option for our 2nd-4th pick in the first, depending where (or if) those prospective picks fall, is Caris Levert of Michigan.  He was considered to be a late lottery/mid 1st type of player last year.  However, he got a foot injury over the summer, was inconsistent to start the year, and then had to shut it down early to fix his injury.  Now 100%, he's a 6'7" guard with length who's averaging 19/6/4 per game, to go with good on-ball defense.  He's shooting 54% from the floor and 48% from deep, and 89% at the foul line on six attempts per game.

He can play anywhere from point to sf, both offensively and defensively.  Imagine if Evan Turner could shoot better, got to the line more, and was a bit quicker, and that's what Levert might be able to wind up as in the NBA.  I don't think he'll be a star, but his versatility gives him a lot of value, especially with a coach like Stevens who experiments with lineups because he can.  And, as a senior, he should be able to crack an NBA rotation very quickly.  Also, despite being a senior, he's still young.  Doesn't turn 22 until next August, which is more like a junior in NCAA basketball years, so he's got a little bit more growth in his game than your average senior draftee.

Completely agree about Caris Levert and he would be a fantastic bench player with potential, but I don't agree with taking him at 2-4. I think his range falls a bit in between 9-20. If he falls to our pick or if he gains a lot of hype during the combine and workouts and the Dallas pick hits than we could probably snag him there in the late lottery.

I don't think saltlover meant "if we get picks 2, 3 or 4," but rather, the second/third/fourth pick we have in the first round, i.e., Dallas, the TWolves or ours.

Mike