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Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker

Yes. Praise the Lord We would have an NBA SF.
26 (47.3%)
Heck No. I'll take Smart.
24 (43.6%)
I'd trade him straight up. No picks involved.
5 (9.1%)

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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2015, 08:32:33 AM »

Offline MikeJelly

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I love Smart but trading him for Jabari? That's a no brainer for me

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2015, 09:13:42 AM »

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Kidd seemed to play a pretty big role in the decision to trade Brandon Knight because Kidd (correctly) was concerned about Knight's limited PG skills. They backed coach over player then.

Correctly?

But maybe you're right. If they were dumb enough to do it then, maybe they're dumb enough to do it again. They love making bad trades in MIL.

Then again, maybe Kidd has doubts about Marcus' PG skills....

Correctly = yes, Brandon Knight is a very good scorer and defender but he is a limited floor general and playmaker. Milwaukee needed a PG who could run the offense and create more for his teammates. Rather than just himself. So that assessment was spot on.

The trade itself you can debate and say whether it was right or wrong.

But the initial assessment of B.Knight's skill-set and that he did not deliver what Milwaukee needed from it's PG was correct. That Milwaukee did not have enough playmaking outside the PG position to balance out a limited playmaking PG ... and thus needed a PG who was more of a playmaker than B.Knight was.

Why would I debate anything other than the trade itself? It was not a secret that MCW is totally overrated when they did the deal. Defending logic over actuals is moot. 

I understand why a team might trade for a passer over a scorer, and moreover why MIL was tempted to do so (which is why I argued we trade Rondo for Knight & Henson over 1.5 years here, which at the time was realistic and woulda been a great deal). But downgrading talent for fit on a team nowhere close to championship caliber is poor management.

And indeed, the deal was a bad one. They traded their best player for junk, because they were scared to pay him. Instead they reveled in giving it to Monroe, another overrated player who is a horrible fit, and sucks up shots from the same peeps that Knight did. The results speak for themselves. They can't guard a chair over there.

Meanwhile, lost in this is the something pretty basic: Giannis is your ball handler, Bucks. Swapping a backcourt scorer who can work off him for a guy who can't shoot is not whipsmart.

Back to the point: I love MIL as a trade partner. Hammond loses deals time after time... exactly the type of GM Ainge loves to take advantage of.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2015, 02:54:26 PM »

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Lots of people think it's a no brainer. That's just because Jabari was was more hyped pre-draft, and he's in the mold of a go-to scorer. But:
-He is and always has been bad defensively
-He's only been a decent scorer, and
-He isn't shooting 3's (he has like one attempt all year).

Meanwhile, Smart is looking awesome. I'd say his offense is better than Jabari's defense, and his defense is miles better than Jabari's offense.

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2015, 02:56:18 PM »

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Meanwhile, Smart is looking awesome.

In a suit on the bench?
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2015, 03:02:27 PM »

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Would I trade Smart for Parker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7czy0zGdl9M

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2015, 03:08:23 PM »

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Meanwhile, Smart is looking awesome.

In a suit on the bench?

Well... Smart has played nearly twice as many NBA games and minutes as Jabari, so I wouldn't be so snarky

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2015, 03:09:15 PM »

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Yes, but we would have to give them more then just Smart!

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2015, 04:00:52 PM »

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Go look at Parker's counting stats. For a guy who's supposed to be a future elite scorer, they're not even particularly impressive relative to Smart's.

In most cases I would say the injuries are a problem for Smart but obviously Parker has had far greater difficulties in that area.

There's nothing that makes Parker a better prospect at this point other than pre-draft expectations.


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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2015, 04:19:19 PM »

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This poll shouldn't be nearly as close as it is... even with this being a Celtic forum.  It would take more than just Smart... and I'd give up more than just Smart.

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2015, 04:50:12 PM »

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Meanwhile, Smart is looking awesome.

In a suit on the bench?

Well... Smart has played nearly twice as many NBA games and minutes as Jabari, so I wouldn't be so snarky

not snarky. you said he's looking awesome. i'm pointing out he's not actually playing.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2015, 05:31:37 PM »

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This poll shouldn't be nearly as close as it is... even with this being a Celtic forum.  It would take more than just Smart... and I'd give up more than just Smart.

of course. the bucks would never do a smart deal for parker. what the Cs would need to add to a smart package would likely need to be almost as valuable as smart himself (i.e. high 1st rounder).

but the point is, why would the bucks trade him?
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2015, 05:37:16 PM »

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Just by virtue of Parker being at a position of need I think you all but have to say yes to a swap. However, I'm not sure how much more I'd give up in addition to Smart.
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Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2015, 06:07:12 PM »

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For me, the Smart choice is Marcus.

Jabari is talented, but I want to see Marcus continue to develop.

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2015, 06:12:07 PM »

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I don't think Smart is a good fit for the Bucks.  They sent MCW to the bench to get more shooting in the starting lineup. 

Re: Poll: Would you trade Smart for Jabari Parker.
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2015, 07:05:03 PM »

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This poll shouldn't be nearly as close as it is... even with this being a Celtic forum.  It would take more than just Smart... and I'd give up more than just Smart.

of course. the bucks would never do a smart deal for parker. what the Cs would need to add to a smart package would likely need to be almost as valuable as smart himself (i.e. high 1st rounder).

but the point is, why would the bucks trade him?
They wouldn't.  Certainly not for Smart.