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Re: Steph Curry is the best player in the world Now. Sorry Lebron.
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2015, 09:42:34 AM »

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no. Lebron still is.

Curry is just an ok defender. Better than avg but that's it

So is Lebron.

He's got supreme defensive talent, but his effort levels on D are woeful at best. 

Sadly all the talent in the world is only so useful if you constantly take plays off and stand there whining about calls instead of running back on D.
 
Sorry to say, but Lebron had all the star power in the world last year, and he has again this year, and the Warriors have looked like a better team ever since the first day of last season kicked off.

Lebron's second and third best players (Irving and Love) are significantly more talented that Curry's second and third best players (Thompson and probably Green) and yet the Cavs cannot touch the Warriors.

Neither guy is really my kind of player, but I have to admit.  What Curry is doing right now is out of this world.
Um.  Irving hasn't played yet this year.  The Cavs are 7-1 and first in the East. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2015, 09:50:21 AM »

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Lebron is getting old. Father time is undefeated. Time waits for no man. Out with the old and in with the new.
 You say LeBron is better on defense and more versatile. I say we haven't seen anybody this good since Michael Jordan, maybe Kobe Bryant in his prime, this kids unbelievable he's the best player in the NBA, he is the best player in the world, they going to win the championship again this year and they're going to do it rather easily.

  I hope you aren't saying that Kobe in his prime is the best player since MJ?

Re: Steph Curry is the best player in the world Now. Sorry Lebron.
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2015, 10:40:58 AM »

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no. Lebron still is.

Curry is just an ok defender. Better than avg but that's it

So is Lebron.

He's got supreme defensive talent, but his effort levels on D are woeful at best. 

Sadly all the talent in the world is only so useful if you constantly take plays off and stand there whining about calls instead of running back on D.
 
Sorry to say, but Lebron had all the star power in the world last year, and he has again this year, and the Warriors have looked like a better team ever since the first day of last season kicked off.

Lebron's second and third best players (Irving and Love) are significantly more talented that Curry's second and third best players (Thompson and probably Green) and yet the Cavs cannot touch the Warriors.

Neither guy is really my kind of player, but I have to admit.  What Curry is doing right now is out of this world.

I agree with this.

It's not even close.

LeBron needs help from referee bias, bad calls, travels, etc. to be unstoppable, while Curry can do it just taking jumpshots.

I also find it hilarious that he's shooting FTs at a Rondo career % level.  This is never mentioned by fans or media, but with Rondo it was ALL ANYBODY EVER TALKED ABOUT.
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2015, 10:47:05 AM »

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I also find it hilarious that he's shooting FTs at a Rondo career % level.  This is never mentioned by fans or media, but with Rondo it was ALL ANYBODY EVER TALKED ABOUT.

Maybe that's because LeBron has done it over an 8 game sample, and Rondo's done it over a 582 game sample, with a major decline to below 40% over the last 1+ seasons? 

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2015, 10:53:51 AM »

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Curry is the best offensive player in the NBA-a title that Durant and Carmelo battled for, for many years.

Lebron is still the most dominant player in the NBA.
He has the ability to be All NBA 5 on both ends.

I'm not confident that Curry would have carried the Cavaliers to and through the NBA finals as Lebron has done so many times.

Lebron's passing, rebounding,  getting others involved and then taking over when needed are the rarest form of basketball beast. Add in his defensive prowess and his ability to guard pretty much all positions and you have the best overall player in the world.
It's why everyone is frothing over Ben Simmons.
Guys with that size,  strength and agility that can literally play both ends as good as anyone in the world,  for 40 minutes a night just don't come around very often.

Basketball is about more than just scoring.
Lebron is like a god version of Kwahi Leonard.

Sounds a lot like what people were saying about Wiggins.
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2015, 10:59:54 AM »

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I also find it hilarious that he's shooting FTs at a Rondo career % level.  This is never mentioned by fans or media, but with Rondo it was ALL ANYBODY EVER TALKED ABOUT.

Maybe that's because LeBron has done it over an 8 game sample, and Rondo's done it over a 582 game sample, with a major decline to below 40% over the last 1+ seasons?

Well, 8 games is 1/10th of the season.  And in those 8 games, he's taken about as many FTs as Rondo has in the last 1+ seasons.

I'm not saying people should be calling LeBron a bad Rondo-like FT shooter, just throwing it out there.  He's never been a decent FT shooter despite what people might have you believe, and you'd think since he dipped to a Rondo level you might at least hear people say he's struggling at the line (seeing as how Rondo was compared to Ben Wallace and called the worst FT shooter ever on a daily basis for the same struggles).
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2015, 11:25:58 AM »

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I also find it hilarious that he's shooting FTs at a Rondo career % level.  This is never mentioned by fans or media, but with Rondo it was ALL ANYBODY EVER TALKED ABOUT.

Maybe that's because LeBron has done it over an 8 game sample, and Rondo's done it over a 582 game sample, with a major decline to below 40% over the last 1+ seasons?

Well, 8 games is 1/10th of the season.  And in those 8 games, he's taken about as many FTs as Rondo has in the last 1+ seasons.

I'm not saying people should be calling LeBron a bad Rondo-like FT shooter, just throwing it out there.  He's never been a decent FT shooter despite what people might have you believe, and you'd think since he dipped to a Rondo level you might at least hear people say he's struggling at the line (seeing as how Rondo was compared to Ben Wallace and called the worst FT shooter ever on a daily basis for the same struggles).

He's 74.4% career regular season and 75.2% in the playoffs.  That's pretty much exactly where I'd peg "decent" (making around 3 out of every 4).

And Rondo wasn't being compared to Ben Wallace for his career average, he was compared to him once he couldn't crack 40% over the course of a season.  Earlier in his career he hovered around 60%, which is terrible for a PG but not Wallace-level bad.  But last year and this year he's actually been below Wallace's career average.  It's a fair comparison.