Will Danny offer Harrison Barnes a max contract as a restricted free agent?

[crimson_stallion]

I see max as guys like Durant. Barnes is a little more like Tobias and Kris Middleton or something

I'm a bit iffy on whether Barnes is worthy of a max contract, but I do see him as being a significant step above Harris and Middleton. 

Main reason is that Barnes is the only one of those three guys who combines elite physical gifts (length, height, athelticism) with excellent shooting (40% from three last year), versatile scoring and quality defense. 

Middleton has the shooting and the defense, but lacks the athleticism and the ability to create his own shot. 

Harris has the physicals and the scorign ability, but isn't an outstanding shooter or defender.

The other big positive is see in Barns is that he has played last year on a team that also contained Curry, Thompson, Green and Iggy and yet he was STILL able to put up strong offensive production.  There is no telling how much his offensive production could spike if he were to move to a team where he could be a #1 or #2 option.

By comparison Harris put up his numbers while playing big minutes and a big role on a bad lottery team, and Middleton put up his numbers in a pretty large role on a fringe playoff team.  This tells me that neither of those guys is likely to see their production jump rapidly if they moved to another team - what you see is probably what you get.

That said Barnes is a big risk for the same reason - you'd be giving him a max on the hope that he does break out unexpectedly.   

I'd probably be willing to take the gamble of there aren't any better propects available.  He's a huge upgrade at a position of much need (SF), and he's a potential two-way impact player from the get go, and he's young enough to grow with the rest of our roster.

[crimson_stallion]

While I agree with the premise that the cap would jump and the market would dictate that that would be his market value, with all due respect, Evan, would you really offer him that much money knowing that Jae Crowder will be with us for 4 more years, for about $10 million less of that price?

Barnes is already a better player than Crowder, and looks to be only scratching the surface of his potential.  His upside is far, far, far higher than Crowder's. 

There could be a number of reasons to not want to gamble on Barnes - the presence of Crowder is certainly never going to be one of them.  He's a great bench player who is forced into a starting role because we have no other starting caliber player at his position. I'd be very surprised (and disappointed) if Crowder is still our starting SF a year from now. 

[chambers]

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[Big333223]

I don't think Barnes deserves a max contract but he's probably going to get one if he makes any improvements at all this year. Basically everyone is going to have max cap space this summer so there are going to be a handful of grossly overpaid players. Barnes could very well be one of them.

Barnes would definitely be the best SF on our team right now and he does have some upside but I'm not convinced he's ever going to reach that upside but I'd keep an eye on him this season.

[Emmette Bryant]

Here's an article written from the Golden State point of view. And yes, it mentions a possible trade to the Celtics.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/4/14/11419004/nba-playoff-preview-2016-golden-state-warriors-harrison-barnes-x-factor

[alldaboston]

Ugh please no. I don't want this kid. He's gonna be overpaid big time. Won't move the needle whatsoever for us.

[The Rondo Show]

This is my worst nightmare.

[jpotter33]

Here's an article written from the Golden State point of view. And yes, it mentions a possible trade to the Celtics.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/4/14/11419004/nba-playoff-preview-2016-golden-state-warriors-harrison-barnes-x-factor

That guy is crazy wanting Bradley over Crowder. Crowder would be the absolute perfect replacement for Barnes - best long-term, cost-controlled deal in the NBA, versatile defender, reliable shooter, excellent work ethic.

That being said, I wouldn't trade him for him. I'd like to have Barnes on our team, but I don't think he'll justify the crazy money he'll get this summer.

[saltlover]

Here's an article written from the Golden State point of view. And yes, it mentions a possible trade to the Celtics.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/4/14/11419004/nba-playoff-preview-2016-golden-state-warriors-harrison-barnes-x-factor

That guy is crazy wanting Bradley over Crowder. Crowder would be the absolute perfect replacement for Barnes - best long-term, cost-controlled deal in the NBA, versatile defender, reliable shooter, excellent work ethic.

That being said, I wouldn't trade him for him. I'd like to have Barnes on our team, but I don't think he'll justify the crazy money he'll get this summer.

I like Barnes and would trade for him, but I would only trade a later first (like our 2018 pick lottery-protected, for example), and throw in Jerebko if they wanted JJ.  Any more and I sign Barnes to the offer sheet and dare Golden State to match.  My gut says they won't.  He's not worth $20 million to that team as a fourth or fifth option.

[jpotter33]

Here's an article written from the Golden State point of view. And yes, it mentions a possible trade to the Celtics.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/4/14/11419004/nba-playoff-preview-2016-golden-state-warriors-harrison-barnes-x-factor

That guy is crazy wanting Bradley over Crowder. Crowder would be the absolute perfect replacement for Barnes - best long-term, cost-controlled deal in the NBA, versatile defender, reliable shooter, excellent work ethic.

That being said, I wouldn't trade him for him. I'd like to have Barnes on our team, but I don't think he'll justify the crazy money he'll get this summer.

I like Barnes and would trade for him, but I would only trade a later first (like our 2018 pick lottery-protected, for example), and throw in Jerebko if they wanted JJ.  Any more and I sign Barnes to the offer sheet and dare Golden State to match.  My gut says they won't.  He's not worth $20 million to that team as a fourth or fifth option.

Is he worth $20 million to us as a second option behind IT? Man, I just don't know. I see him peaking at around 18 points a game, albeit with great outside shooting.

[TheSundanceKid]

I don't understand why we would trade for Barnes? What would we get extra over just giving him an offer sheet? Unless you want Barnes so much and are convinced that GS will match but I don't think that is the right approach to this summer

[Celtics4ever]

No, he will not offer a max.  He won't lock us in  us for less than a franchise player which Barnes is not.  I think he benefits greatly because who he plays with.   As a primary threat, I think he would not be as good. 

Barnes is already a better player than Crowder, and looks to be only scratching the surface of his potential.  His upside is far, far, far higher than Crowder's.

Desperation move at best, committing all that money to this guy.

[LGC88]

We can thank Danny for being true to his principles.
He will never give big money for 2nd tier players.
Most of the nba teams do, and that's a big reason why they are not contending.

[cltc5]

We can thank Danny for being true to his principles.
He will never give big money for 2nd tier players.
Most of the nba teams do, and that's a big reason why they are not contending.

So are u saying we're contending?

[hodgy03038]

I am not a fan of throwing max contracts unless the player is a max player. I love Harrison Barnes but 'max"? Just like Horford who I like but he is obviously NOT a "max" player. Just because we have the money I don't think Danny will spend it foolishly. If Danny does offer max money to someone including these players then I would be on board because I am "all in" on Danny and his decisions to improve our team.