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Re: That Rondo Thread
« Reply #270 on: December 22, 2015, 02:03:58 PM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

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« Reply #271 on: December 22, 2015, 02:12:16 PM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.
rondo does not have the ability to play the same role as turner in CBS' offense. heck, rondo seems to lack the ability to play in any offense except his own.
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« Reply #272 on: December 22, 2015, 02:13:43 PM »

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No.  We've already seen how Rondo operates in Stevens' system & its not good.


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« Reply #273 on: December 22, 2015, 02:15:34 PM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

This is the Rondo nostalgia haze is a nutshell. Thankfully, this is never ever happening. 
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« Reply #274 on: December 22, 2015, 02:30:33 PM »

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Ok new Rondo question and I didn't want to start yet another RR thread.

Next year if we could replace Turner for RR would you? Turner will probably make a bit more and RR a bit less (ok they probably both make more with the new cap but I'm talking in terms of percent of the cap.) The 2 knocks on RR were he couldn't hit the 3 or the ft. Well Turner can't hit the 3 at all. RR is better at a lot of things and only really worse at the ft line. If the Kings don't want him back we might be able to pick him up cheap.

Not sure about fit. AB, Smart, IT and RR all can make a great case as to why they should start but we could let that work it self out.

With Crowder here and Smart and AB we have really good D. With RR as a free safety it would be better.

Obviously RR is not what puts us over the top but he would help and be an upgrade over Turner? disagree or disagree?
as much as I think we need a PG that can handle the ball/run an offense/pass, I don't think Rondo would fit with what Stevens is doing with the team even if Rondo came to play every night.  I love Rondo and miss him each time I watch IT, Turner and Smart try to run this offense but if anything, we need a PG like Rondo but one that can shoot from the floor at a respectable percentage as well as make better than 75% of their FTs (and that's a very low % for the person most likely to have the ball down the stretch of a game)

Like Mike Conley jr!?!?!

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« Reply #275 on: December 23, 2015, 02:11:59 AM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

This is the Rondo nostalgia haze is a nutshell. Thankfully, this is never ever happening.

 I love comments like this. Never is a strong and definite word. How can you know? Didn't people say Walker would NEVER come back, and then he did. IF Rondo does change teams again I would think that we might have a better that 1 in 29 shot at him (ok 1 in 28 as NEVER might apply to the mavs.) It's really 50-50 on Rondo's prerogative. He might be mad at us and not want to come back or he might look fondly on his years in Boston and think we were the only ones who got him. If it's the later AND if the Kings don't keep him I'd say we have a better shot than the 0% your "never" indicates.

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« Reply #276 on: December 23, 2015, 02:39:42 AM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

This is the Rondo nostalgia haze is a nutshell. Thankfully, this is never ever happening.

 I love comments like this. Never is a strong and definite word. How can you know? Didn't people say Walker would NEVER come back, and then he did. IF Rondo does change teams again I would think that we might have a better that 1 in 29 shot at him (ok 1 in 28 as NEVER might apply to the mavs.) It's really 50-50 on Rondo's prerogative. He might be mad at us and not want to come back or he might look fondly on his years in Boston and think we were the only ones who got him. If it's the later AND if the Kings don't keep him I'd say we have a better shot than the 0% your "never" indicates.

Is it impossible that the Celtics would want Rondo back? No, but why would they? I'm not just talking about from a talent standpoint but from a PR standpoint. Did you not just hear about his incident with Bill Kennedy that made him, the Kings, and even the league all look bad? Why would the Celtics want to get involved with a player who currently has an awful public image? Especially on a roster with plenty of young and impressionable players.

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« Reply #277 on: December 23, 2015, 07:27:56 AM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.
Rondo doesn't play defense and is immature, is a time bomb.
Turner is way way valuable than him

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« Reply #278 on: December 23, 2015, 12:39:11 PM »

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yeah yeah ok, RR doesn't play D. I guess my eyes have been deceiving me all these years. Your right why swap out the defensive juggernaut that is Turner for the turnstile Rondo?

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« Reply #279 on: December 23, 2015, 12:41:46 PM »

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yeah yeah ok, RR doesn't play D. I guess my eyes have been deceiving me all these years. Your right why swap out the defensive juggernaut that is Turner for the turnstile Rondo?

Why have a guy who runs his own style of offense on our second unit instead of a guy who will maintain the pace and space, spread the ball around style?

That's my biggest gripe with Turner -- he just kind of does his own thing, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it's never really the same kind of flow that the team tries to create without him.  Rondo brings the same dynamic.    Let's move away from having guys like that on the team, period.  The goal should be to run the system at a high level for 48 minutes.  That's how you reach the mountaintop.
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« Reply #280 on: December 23, 2015, 12:48:16 PM »

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yeah yeah ok, RR doesn't play D. I guess my eyes have been deceiving me all these years. Your right why swap out the defensive juggernaut that is Turner for the turnstile Rondo?
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« Reply #281 on: December 23, 2015, 12:48:32 PM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

This is the Rondo nostalgia haze is a nutshell. Thankfully, this is never ever happening.

 I love comments like this. Never is a strong and definite word. How can you know? Didn't people say Walker would NEVER come back, and then he did. IF Rondo does change teams again I would think that we might have a better that 1 in 29 shot at him (ok 1 in 28 as NEVER might apply to the mavs.) It's really 50-50 on Rondo's prerogative. He might be mad at us and not want to come back or he might look fondly on his years in Boston and think we were the only ones who got him. If it's the later AND if the Kings don't keep him I'd say we have a better shot than the 0% your "never" indicates.

Is it impossible that the Celtics would want Rondo back? No, but why would they? I'm not just talking about from a talent standpoint but from a PR standpoint. Did you not just hear about his incident with Bill Kennedy that made him, the Kings, and even the league all look bad? Why would the Celtics want to get involved with a player who currently has an awful public image? Especially on a roster with plenty of young and impressionable players.

I had not heard about that. I watched the game and RR clearly lost it after getting booted. I don't like to hear about people making bigoted remarks, but it is sports. People get heated. I've said things that later I regretted so I'm not going to throw RR under the bus. Sometime people just think, what is the most hurtful thing I can say? In a moment when they are very mad. I think it will blow over.

PR is one thing, ticket sales are another. RR in green again would boost ticket sales.

You guys can knock Rondo til the cows come home but what you can't take away from him is that he is a once in a generation elite passer.

He could come home cheap. Every ejection or slur just drives his price down. This is a Danny Ainge move for sure.

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« Reply #282 on: December 23, 2015, 12:54:16 PM »

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He could come home cheap. Every ejection or slur just drives his price down.
Last time I checked, there's no NBA team in Kentucky, and nothing Rajon Rondo has ever done suggests Boston is his "home".
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« Reply #283 on: December 23, 2015, 12:54:28 PM »

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But what if RR took Turners role? back up point. Not in there down the stretch unless he is playing great. Obviously he needs a bit of an attitude check if he wants to come back. But if no one really wants him in the offseason we could get a steal. A very Ainge move.

This is the Rondo nostalgia haze is a nutshell. Thankfully, this is never ever happening.

 I love comments like this. Never is a strong and definite word. How can you know? Didn't people say Walker would NEVER come back, and then he did. IF Rondo does change teams again I would think that we might have a better that 1 in 29 shot at him (ok 1 in 28 as NEVER might apply to the mavs.) It's really 50-50 on Rondo's prerogative. He might be mad at us and not want to come back or he might look fondly on his years in Boston and think we were the only ones who got him. If it's the later AND if the Kings don't keep him I'd say we have a better shot than the 0% your "never" indicates.

Is it impossible that the Celtics would want Rondo back? No, but why would they? I'm not just talking about from a talent standpoint but from a PR standpoint. Did you not just hear about his incident with Bill Kennedy that made him, the Kings, and even the league all look bad? Why would the Celtics want to get involved with a player who currently has an awful public image? Especially on a roster with plenty of young and impressionable players.

I had not heard about that. I watched the game and RR clearly lost it after getting booted. I don't like to hear about people making bigoted remarks, but it is sports. People get heated. I've said things that later I regretted so I'm not going to throw RR under the bus. Sometime people just think, what is the most hurtful thing I can say? In a moment when they are very mad. I think it will blow over.

PR is one thing, ticket sales are another. RR in green again would boost ticket sales.

You guys can knock Rondo til the cows come home but what you can't take away from him is that he is a once in a generation elite passer.

He could come home cheap. Every ejection or slur just drives his price down. This is a Danny Ainge move for sure.

Are the Celtics having problem selling tickets?

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« Reply #284 on: December 23, 2015, 03:55:08 PM »

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I guess my overall point is that all the knocks on RR are about the same as Turner (except ft shooting) but Rondo is much better at running the O, passing and rebounding. F it, why bother, you guys hate him. I'm done trying to convince you otherwise. Hate away.