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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 04:11:01 PM »

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Still not as promising as what the Sixers will likely roll out in 2016-17.
maybe


Maybe not


I will say for sure that it's nice that we haven't had a "wasted season" like they had. Tanking to get embiid. Although i'm sure at least half of this forum thinks that last season was a total waste
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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 04:26:11 PM »

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I really wanted a top 5 pick last year, and I think it could have turned out that way.  Danny isn't able to pull every string no matter how a plan is intended.  The C's ended winning more games than he thought they would, so the plan adjusts.  Despite not getting the high pick, I am excited about the upcoming year and possibilities for the continued rebuild.  Summer of 2016 could have all sorts of excitment in trades, picks and signings. Time will tell.

Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 04:27:45 PM »

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I do think there's a tendency on this board to occasionally forget that the other 29 franchises have GM's who would like to win a championship as badly as Ainge would.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2015, 04:28:58 PM »

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No, but the rush to already judge this era one way or another is.


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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2015, 04:31:10 PM »

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I do think there's a tendency on this board to occasionally forget that the other 29 franchises have GM's who would like to win a championship as badly as Ainge would.

Nah.

The other twenty-nine franchises are just in it to sell tickets. 
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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2015, 04:36:13 PM »

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Still not as promising as what the Sixers will likely roll out in 2016-17.

What exactly are the 76ers rolling out in 2016-2017

free agent?
Top 5 rookie
top 12 rookie
Nerlens Noel
Jahill Okafor

Bench:
Saric
Embiid if he ever plays?

Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2015, 04:37:30 PM »

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I think "was" makes sense because it was talking about the partial roster blow-up as opposed to a complete blow-up and/or holding good players out of games to get a top 3 draft pick. At this point we wouldn't resort to those measures unless the plan absolutely did not work, so the plan to increase our draft capital is basically over.

I think at best that qualifies as only a sub-section of the actual 'plan'.

And given that our current 'draft capital' is highly distributed (quantity rather than quality), I wouldn't be too certain that the draft capital acquisition phase is anywhere close to 'basically over'.
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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2015, 04:38:08 PM »

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I do think there's a tendency on this board to occasionally forget that the other 29 franchises have GM's who would like to win a championship as badly as Ainge would.

Protagonist syndrome.

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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2015, 04:38:10 PM »

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Getting back to my point... Danny seems to be trying to do two things at once. 1.  Win as much as possible with the players he has.  2. Yet, willing to let go of good players if he can acquire a better trade value for the long run. 

In this regard Danny might be considered a genius.  Because he's been able to assemble a squad that can win, i.e., make the playoffs.  At the same time lose valued players and not tank. 

But, is this strategy one he can continue with?  For example, if in Jan 2016 the team is doing okay..not great.  Might he trade Lee or Johnson to a contender half way through the year to get another 1st round draft pick? 

Danny's in a a tough situation.  My feeling he needs to let everyone in the system know what his goal(s) is/are.  And, to make sure they stay on that path.   

 

Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2015, 04:39:38 PM »

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I do think there's a tendency on this board to occasionally forget that the other 29 franchises have GM's who would like to win a championship as badly as Ainge would.

Protagonist syndrome.

The NBA is the Celtics' story and everybody else is just a supporting character.

Precisely, although I prefer Greece's definition -- where basketball is a five on five game played for 48 minutes and the Celtics win at the end.
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Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 05:03:47 PM »

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I think Danny's plan is turning out fine. Just a bit quicker than he anticipated.

Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 05:08:54 PM »

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He finally may have LUCKED into a decent draft .   To help right his previous screw ups .

Given the late picks , no top 10 ......I think he made the most with late picks after the Celtics squeezed into the playoffs .

Celtics are building a decent support cast .

The TWO stars needed to contend are yet to be hooked.

Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 05:30:47 PM »

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imo Ainges biggest mistake was not dumping Rondo, Green and Bass when he traded KG & Pierce.

we eventually ended up trading Rondo and Green for nothing, and Bass walked and we got nothing to show for it.

everybody was saying "we shouldn't just take any old deal". and with Rondo and Green we did. and now in retrospect maybe we should have taken one of them low-ball offers for bass.

...and before some genius chimes in and says "hmmm? Crowder is nothing?" don't embarrass yourself.

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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 05:53:48 PM »

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People still believe that Ainge has/had a plan?


Re: Was Danny's plan flawed?
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 05:57:50 PM »

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imo Ainges biggest mistake was not dumping Rondo, Green and Bass when he traded KG & Pierce.

we eventually ended up trading Rondo and Green for nothing, and Bass walked and we got nothing to show for it.

everybody was saying "we shouldn't just take any old deal". and with Rondo and Green we did. and now in retrospect maybe we should have taken one of them low-ball offers for bass.

...and before some genius chimes in and says "hmmm? Crowder is nothing?" don't embarrass yourself.
So you are saying future first round picks are nothing? Ok then.