Backcourt:Terry Rozier and Marcus Smart

[Maurice98]

This backcourt intrigues me so much and in Summer League ( I know it doesn't mean a lot), they both showed they fit well with each other down the road. They remind me a bit of DJ and Gus Williams back in Seattle when they won a championship in '79.

I realized that they both share similar qualities:difficult background, combo guards, hustle players, play excellent D, 100% effort, decent shooters at best (even though I think they'll both become average/above average at it),unselfish, long, intense, good rebounders, aggressive and can be clutch.

However, there are also some differences that can help each other:

• Marcus is stronger, Terry is quicker
• Marcus can guard bigger guards better than smaller guard, Terry vice versa
• Marcus is a better spot up shooter, Terry is better off the dribble

They are interchangeable on D and O so the won't have a position on the team because Marcus will be a PG on O and a SG on D, while Terry is a 2 on O while a 1 on D. this is really important for the Cs.

Of course, only one of them or none of them (even though I think it's gonna be unlikely) is going to pan out. 

And again, I hope this duo is gonna be successful. What do y'all think?

[aingeforthree]

This backcourt intrigues me so much and in Summer League ( I know it doesn't mean a lot), they both showed they fit well with each other down the road. They remind me a bit of DJ and Gus Williams back in Seattle when they won a championship in '79.

I realized that they both share similar qualities:difficult background, combo guards, hustle players, play excellent D, 100% effort, decent shooters at best (even though I think they'll both become average/above average at it),unselfish, long, intense, good rebounders, aggressive and can be clutch.

However, there are also some differences that can help each other:

• Marcus is stronger, Terry is quicker
• Marcus can guard bigger guards better than smaller guard, Terry vice versa
• Marcus is a better spot up shooter, Terry is better off the dribble

They are interchangeable on D and O so the won't have a position on the team because Marcus will be a PG on O and a SG on D, while Terry is a 2 on O while a 1 on D. this is really important for the Cs.

Of course, only one of them or none of them (even though I think it's gonna be unlikely) is going to pan out. 

And again, I hope this duo is gonna be successful. What do y'all think?

I think they fit well.  Not this year, but down the road.  I know everybody wants them to play a lot and do well, but we need to wait a bit for the development.  They both should still be in school.

[D.o.s.]

This backcourt intrigues me so much and in Summer League ( I know it doesn't mean a lot), they both showed they fit well with each other down the road. They remind me a bit of DJ and Gus Williams back in Seattle when they won a championship in '79.

I realized that they both share similar qualities:difficult background, combo guards, hustle players, play excellent D, 100% effort, decent shooters at best (even though I think they'll both become average/above average at it),unselfish, long, intense, good rebounders, aggressive and can be clutch.

However, there are also some differences that can help each other:

• Marcus is stronger, Terry is quicker
• Marcus can guard bigger guards better than smaller guard, Terry vice versa
• Marcus is a better spot up shooter, Terry is better off the dribble

They are interchangeable on D and O so the won't have a position on the team because Marcus will be a PG on O and a SG on D, while Terry is a 2 on O while a 1 on D. this is really important for the Cs.

Of course, only one of them or none of them (even though I think it's gonna be unlikely) is going to pan out. 

And again, I hope this duo is gonna be successful. What do y'all think?

I think they fit well.  Not this year, but down the road.  I know everybody wants them to play a lot and do well, but we need to wait a bit for the development.  They both should still be in school.

Can you explain the last line please?

[PhoSita]

If any of the Celts' players should still be in school, it's James Young. 

Looks like he really could have used another year or two to learn the game of basketball at the college level, plus getting a degree probably wouldn't be a terrible idea given that he may never make it as an NBA player.

[slamtheking]

If any of the Celts' players should still be in school, it's James Young. 

Looks like he really could have used another year or two to learn the game of basketball at the college level, plus getting a degree probably wouldn't be a terrible idea given that he may never make it as an NBA player.

with the money he will get from his rookie deal, he can afford to go back to school if the NBA doesn't pan out.  even if the NBA isn't for him, there's overseas and the D-league does pay more than minimum wage.

that's the thing about a rookie deal in the NBA -- they pay enough that with smart money management, the kid may never have to work a real job in his life.

[PhoSita]

If any of the Celts' players should still be in school, it's James Young. 

Looks like he really could have used another year or two to learn the game of basketball at the college level, plus getting a degree probably wouldn't be a terrible idea given that he may never make it as an NBA player.

with the money he will get from his rookie deal, he can afford to go back to school if the NBA doesn't pan out.  even if the NBA isn't for him, there's overseas and the D-league does pay more than minimum wage.

that's the thing about a rookie deal in the NBA -- they pay enough that with smart money management, the kid may never have to work a real job in his life.

Yeah, money wise it always makes sense to get drafted.  Young really strikes me as a guy who was hurt by the Calipari factory more than he was helped by it though, at least from a basketball standpoint.

[aingeforthree]

If any of the Celts' players should still be in school, it's James Young. 

Looks like he really could have used another year or two to learn the game of basketball at the college level, plus getting a degree probably wouldn't be a terrible idea given that he may never make it as an NBA player.

No doubt about that.

Just got to be patient with the process with him.  Same with Rozier.  Looks like Smart is well on his way which is encouraging.  Great pick.

[aingeforthree]

If any of the Celts' players should still be in school, it's James Young. 

Looks like he really could have used another year or two to learn the game of basketball at the college level, plus getting a degree probably wouldn't be a terrible idea given that he may never make it as an NBA player.

with the money he will get from his rookie deal, he can afford to go back to school if the NBA doesn't pan out.  even if the NBA isn't for him, there's overseas and the D-league does pay more than minimum wage.

that's the thing about a rookie deal in the NBA -- they pay enough that with smart money management, the kid may never have to work a real job in his life.

Yeah, money wise it always makes sense to get drafted.  Young really strikes me as a guy who was hurt by the Calipari factory more than he was helped by it though, at least from a basketball standpoint.

Agreed.  One of the great traits about this organization and Danny Ainge is how they go about the development with these young bucks.  Ainge really knows how to use the D-league to his advantage.

I personally like Young.  I think he's going to be good, but he's far off and still has a lot to learn.  I expect Ainge throws him up and down into the D-league again.

[Who]

Super fit.

Rozier's lack of PG skills means he needs to be paired with a PG or combo guard. Preferably one with good size with the defensive versatility to defend both guard positions and offensively provide more ball-handling and passing ability to help shoulder the load. So Smart is great for Rozier.

Smart's lack of dribble penetration and creation offensively means he needs to be paired with another high usage perimeter player who can break down that first line of the defense off the dribble and get into the paint to either score or pass. So Rozier is a great fit for Smart too.

They counterbalance one another's strengths and weaknesses very well. Defensively they should be a great fit. Offensively they help hide each other's limitations and could make a potent backcourt duo.

[clover]

This backcourt intrigues me so much and in Summer League ( I know it doesn't mean a lot), they both showed they fit well with each other down the road. They remind me a bit of DJ and Gus Williams back in Seattle when they won a championship in '79.

I realized that they both share similar qualities:difficult background, combo guards, hustle players, play excellent D, 100% effort, decent shooters at best (even though I think they'll both become average/above average at it),unselfish, long, intense, good rebounders, aggressive and can be clutch.

However, there are also some differences that can help each other:

• Marcus is stronger, Terry is quicker
• Marcus can guard bigger guards better than smaller guard, Terry vice versa
• Marcus is a better spot up shooter, Terry is better off the dribble

They are interchangeable on D and O so the won't have a position on the team because Marcus will be a PG on O and a SG on D, while Terry is a 2 on O while a 1 on D. this is really important for the Cs.

Of course, only one of them or none of them (even though I think it's gonna be unlikely) is going to pan out. 

And again, I hope this duo is gonna be successful. What do y'all think?

I agree they're a great combo, and how quickly Rozier comes along will determine how much we see of it this year. But when they play together I think it's 60/40 or 70/30 with Rozier taking the lead in the lead guard role. (E.g., taking the ball up more and once he coordinates his driving to the basket with dishing out--look out!)