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Did we address are weakness's.

Yes. Amir and Lee plus the draft picks answers are problems.
7 (10.8%)
No. We needed star talent and he wiffed.
12 (18.5%)
He did the best that he could considering his options.
46 (70.8%)

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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 07:55:36 AM »

Offline walker834

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Again David Lee same thing

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423025-breaking-down-why-david-lee-is-one-of-the-nbas-most-underrated-players

"On a team that has Stephen Curry as its point guard, it is invaluable to have a counterpart that excels at the pick-and-roll. Lee is that man"

So if we want to use the pick and roll and want shooters we addressed those needs.  We basically stole 2 guys that were important roleplayers on upper echelon teams to go with our young core.

I voted option 1 because I think Ainge did what he set out to do. 

Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 08:06:26 AM »

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I think Ainge did what he could.   Stars are hard to come by, I am glad we did not give up like six picks for Winslow though.   He added some nice rookies, two that can defend and one that can shoot and the defenders have some offense ability and are two way players something we have lacked at times.  I think he made the team longer and a tad more athletic.   Lee should help with scoring and Amir is a CBS kind of guy.   I was glad to see Jonas come back, he does a lot of little things really well.

If Sully comes back in shape, he will look like a genius.   But I would not bet on that one, not even a penny.

Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 08:20:01 AM »

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Getting rid of Wallace and Bass was BIG ....

What he subtracted is as important as additions.


Adding Hunter and Lee are strong editions .....of winners ......people who know the game.


Too bad ET couldn't be waved .....sold ..traded ....given away ......oh well ......maybe this will be our XMAS present .......moving ET off the team .

Shadowbanned? Exiled? Liquidated?

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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2015, 10:17:50 AM »

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He addressed the team's weakness in small ways.

I like the addition of Amir, he's not a major force down low, he will be our strongest defender in the paint. An area we desperately needed help in. He'll score enough, and be enough of a solid all around player to get plenty of minutes.

DA drafted RJ Hunter, the 3 point sniper we needed from outside. By all signs RJ will help the C's this year and for years to come. I feel with his size and potential, he'll be a "better than just nice" all around player. Give him minutes and experience and he'll be the SG we need going forward.

IMO we should have taken a shot at drafting a big, rather than Rozier. We really didn't need another undersized 2 guard that needs to be trained to be a point. He does have some nice game in him. If Bradley gets traded he'll look much better.

We got a rim protecting presents in Mickey, yes...he's long, i understand, but at 6-7 or 6-8 235 lb. playing power forward in the NBA, I wonder if he's going to be pushed around and kind of smothered down low. I like his game, he'll need to get stronger.

The Celtics need a trade... a 2 for 1 trade, so some of these kids can grow.


 

Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2015, 10:34:45 AM »

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Certainly not. What would make a star player want to come here? We can pretend that the referees don't give favors to the stars, but that's not real. Nike and Adidas need their investments to perform.

To win, we must have stars. And there is nothing about the roster, as presently constituted, that would make a star player want to come and play here. Nor is there anyone on the roster who is likely to become a star player.

Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2015, 10:36:39 AM »

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I think Ainge did what he could.

Agreed.
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 10:42:18 AM »

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I think Ainge did what he could.

Agreed.

Yeah. I don't think Ainge made any game-changing additions to the team, but it seems like the moves to make the team drastically better for next year were not there this summer.
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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »

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I think Ainge did what he could.

Agreed.

The only angle I disagree is that I don't think he showed any interest towards Monroe, and he was my top target in free-agency.

I know some disagree on him as a player, and probably Ainge feels that way as well, but I'm convinced that if the Celtics would've shown interest he would've been wearing Celtics' Green.

Other than that, can't fault him for much of what has happened otherwise, and am pleased with the moves he's managed for now. And I mean pleased in that he hasn't made a mistake move.

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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 10:45:59 AM »

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A starting frontcourt of Monroe and David Lee would be nothing less than MOMA-level performance art on non-extant defense from your bigs.

Either or I think would have been ok, though.
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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2015, 10:49:52 AM »

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I agree with the "He did what he could" notion.  I thought his hands were pretty tied when it came to free agency, trade market, even the draft. 

I think he's continued to add depth and upgraded the frontcourt.  I still think scoring is going to be a concern and we still have a glaring weakness when it comes to wing scoring.  I don't think there was much he could've done in that area this offseason, however.

He also continues to keep this team's flexibility and they continue to be set up to have the ability (not necessarily going to happen) to make things happen down the road.


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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 10:51:52 AM »

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I don't think Monroe was in play for us given where he chose to sign.  He picked a team that was young, in a less glamorous market, with a youngish, relatively unproven coach.  That part lines up.  But the Bucks have the interesting, up-and-coming talent the Celts lack.

I agree that Lee and Monroe would have been a horrible pairing.  I think Monroe will look really good in Milwaukee as a full time center, though, and we'll be wishing Ainge had successfully pursued him.
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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 10:54:21 AM »

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A starting frontcourt of Monroe and David Lee would be nothing less than MOMA-level performance art on non-extant defense from your bigs.

Either or I think would have been ok, though.

If we had Monroe, I wouldn't have any interest in Lee though (not that I'm high on him regardless). I probably do the move anyways because he has more value to us than Wallace. But I'm thinking beyond this year.

Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2015, 10:54:31 AM »

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Just to make sure I'm not appearing inconsistent, while I agree that Ainge "did what he could" as far as making the team better for next year, I disagree with how he chose to proceed once that became clear.

Choosing to maintain in the middle and load up on short-term veterans while adding to the roster imbalance instead of remedying it was definitely not my preference.
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Re: Poll: Did Ainge address the team's weakness.
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 11:01:19 AM »

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Upgrading the frontcourt with two skilled veteran bigs and drafting a shot blocker that could be ready to contribute year 1 will help address some of our weaknesses from last season. It's not a long term solution but it's a pretty good bandaid that fits the culture Stevens is trying to build and preserves roster flexibility moving forward.

We're also slowly addressing a different kind of weakness, amassing enough talent and trade chips to facilitate a blockbuster deal if one comes along. Amir and Lee have the big contracts we'll need to match salary, and promising summers from the rookies doesn't hurt their value. Whether teams want picks, prospects, established players on good contracts or large expirings, the Celtics can play at the table.

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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 11:23:14 AM »

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Totally agree with the "he did what he could" sentiment. We improved modestly in interior defense, scoring ability and rebounding without sacrificing any of our assets or future flexability. If we had an up and down season last year that ended with 40 wins I might feel different but considering how good we looked post-ASG I think that was the smartest play.

Overpaying for someone via trade or FA and/or taking a guy you don't believe in just for the sake of "filling holes" year to year is the mark of a bad franchise. I'd rather do what Ainge did and stay as flexible as possible.