any current news on sully and weight

[alewilliam789]

This is going to be the year that Sully takes that next step. Or least I'm really hoping. Unfortunately now it's even more packed now in the front court then ever and we added a player that has a very similar skillset in David Lee.

[makaveli]

Sully retweeted this pic of him today

Look at em rolls

Everyones stomach looks like that when you are at that point in a crunch with weight.

no it doesn't
i think he's abou the same size as before, but i hope he lost fat and gained some muscle. His legs still look like two barells.
i will give him a benefit of a doubt, he has credit till the all star weekend

[oldtype]

Pics are all meaningless anyway. The only way to know for sure if he's improved his conditioning or not is to see how it translates on the court.

[Celtics4ever]

The guy should have been all this stuff the whole time.   Now people think this is great because he is doing it, when his career was threatened by his weight and he is in a contract year.  We should not be lauding that behavior folks.   It is good he is changing his habits but HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS PROFESSIONAL ALL ALONG!

This is going to be the year that Sully takes that next step. Or least I'm really hoping. Unfortunately now it's even more packed now in the front court then ever and we added a player that has a very similar skillset in David Lee.

It is possible, but David Lee is a better shooter than Sully.   It is not even close, Ainge did not take any chances in the offseason, as in the past Sully's promises have rung hollow.  He traded for Lee, resigned Jonas and signed Amir.    That shows me, that Ainge was ready to move on without him either way.

Pics are all meaningless anyway. The only way to know for sure if he's improved his conditioning or not is to see how it translates on the court.

   Agree, and we have seen video of him still moving like pond water.   It ought to help him some but his athletic base is poor.   That being said, it ought to help his conditioning more than anything.   One of my biggest gripes with him is he does not rotate on D, and run the floor.   He is an elite rebounder.     I do not think he is nor will he ever be a high FG% guy or 3p%.   He does not get a lot of lift and if he can't use his body he is prone to getting swatted.

Proof will be on the court, even I want him to be able to help the Celtics.   I just think he is human pyrite.   Shiny, but not worth much because can't play NBA level Defense, except in the low post because he lacks foot speed.  I think he will be a solid back up for years to come.

[Big333223]

Pics are all meaningless anyway. The only way to know for sure if he's improved his conditioning or not is to see how it translates on the court.

Yep. It's all speculation until we see him running up and down the floor. And really, if he doesn't come to camp in better shape this season, he's never going to figure it out. But I think he has.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The guy should have been all this stuff the whole time.   Now people think this is great because he is doing it, when his career was threatened by his weight and he is in a contract year.  We should not be lauding that behavior folks.   It is good he is changing his habits but HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS PROFESSIONAL ALL ALONG!

Yep.

This is going to be the year that Sully takes that next step. Or least I'm really hoping. Unfortunately now it's even more packed now in the front court then ever and we added a player that has a very similar skillset in David Lee.

It is possible, but David Lee is a better shooter than Sully.   It is not even close, Ainge did not take any chances in the offseason, as in the past Sully's promises have rung hollow.  He traded for Lee, resigned Jonas and signed Amir.    That shows me, that Ainge was ready to move on without him either way.

David Lee is a better shooter than Sully? Yeah, that's highly highly inaccurate. You're correct, it's not even close, David Lee is not close to the shooter that Sullinger is, which says something considering that you criticize Sullinger's shooting plenty.

Signing Amir, Jonas and trading for Lee is all about trade value (transfering the value of Wallace's contract and the TPEs), not about readiness to move on... but it does comes with the added benefit of making players expendable including Sullinger, Olynyk, and Zeller. In all, I wouldn't read too much into it beyond value of an asset as it specifically pertains Sullinger.

Pics are all meaningless anyway. The only way to know for sure if he's improved his conditioning or not is to see how it translates on the court.

   Agree, and we have seen video of him still moving like pond water.   It ought to help him some but his athletic base is poor.   That being said, it ought to help his conditioning more than anything.   One of my biggest gripes with him is he does not rotate on D, and run the floor.   He is an elite rebounder.     I do not think he is nor will he ever be a high FG% guy or 3p%.   He does not get a lot of lift and if he can't use his body he is prone to getting swatted.

Proof will be on the court, even I want him to be able to help the Celtics.   I just think he is human pyrite.   Shiny, but not worth much because can't play NBA level Defense, except in the low post because he lacks foot speed.  I think he will be a solid back up for years to come.

See... you keep putting a lot of stock on an amateur league video. But whatever, moving on. I do agree that pics are fairly meaningless. Well, I wouldn't say meaningless, but conclusions drawn from them, one way or another, ARE meaningless.

As for his defense, it was quite bad last year for whatever reason. But it hasn't always been true. I've already provided you ample evidence of it. It was disappointing to see last year from an effort context more than anything.

And again, you should stop throwing the word "ever" around particularly when in his rookie year he did go for 49% from the floor. Not sure about 3P%. I'm not comfortable making determinations on that front one way or another, it's INCREDIBLY early in his career to suggest that he can't be a good 3-point shooter.

But we'll see, proof will be on the court as you say.

[makaveli]

The guy should have been all this stuff the whole time.   Now people think this is great because he is doing it, when his career was threatened by his weight and he is in a contract year.  We should not be lauding that behavior folks.   It is good he is changing his habits but HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS PROFESSIONAL ALL ALONG!

Yep.

This is going to be the year that Sully takes that next step. Or least I'm really hoping. Unfortunately now it's even more packed now in the front court then ever and we added a player that has a very similar skillset in David Lee.

It is possible, but David Lee is a better shooter than Sully.   It is not even close, Ainge did not take any chances in the offseason, as in the past Sully's promises have rung hollow.  He traded for Lee, resigned Jonas and signed Amir.    That shows me, that Ainge was ready to move on without him either way.

David Lee is a better shooter than Sully? Yeah, that's highly highly inaccurate. You're correct, it's not even close, David Lee is not close to the shooter that Sullinger is, which says something considering that you criticize Sullinger's shooting plenty.

Signing Amir, Jonas and trading for Lee is all about trade value (transfering the value of Wallace's contract and the TPEs), not about readiness to move on... but it does comes with the added benefit of making players expendable including Sullinger, Olynyk, and Zeller. In all, I wouldn't read too much into it beyond value of an asset as it specifically pertains Sullinger.

Pics are all meaningless anyway. The only way to know for sure if he's improved his conditioning or not is to see how it translates on the court.

   Agree, and we have seen video of him still moving like pond water.   It ought to help him some but his athletic base is poor.   That being said, it ought to help his conditioning more than anything.   One of my biggest gripes with him is he does not rotate on D, and run the floor.   He is an elite rebounder.     I do not think he is nor will he ever be a high FG% guy or 3p%.   He does not get a lot of lift and if he can't use his body he is prone to getting swatted.

Proof will be on the court, even I want him to be able to help the Celtics.   I just think he is human pyrite.   Shiny, but not worth much because can't play NBA level Defense, except in the low post because he lacks foot speed.  I think he will be a solid back up for years to come.

See... you keep putting a lot of stock on an amateur league video. But whatever, moving on. I do agree that pics are fairly meaningless. Well, I wouldn't say meaningless, but conclusions drawn from them, one way or another, ARE meaningless.

As for his defense, it was quite bad last year for whatever reason. But it hasn't always been true. I've already provided you ample evidence of it. It was disappointing to see last year from an effort context more than anything.

And again, you should stop throwing the word "ever" around particularly when in his rookie year he did go for 49% from the floor. Not sure about 3P%. I'm not comfortable making determinations on that front one way or another, it's INCREDIBLY early in his career to suggest that he can't be a good 3-point shooter.

But we'll see, proof will be on the court as you say.

David Lee two years ago was like a dream come true if you want a young workacholic PF. a 20-10, and he got thoose 20 without running a play for him basicly. Sully on the other hand is a 14-8 guy who tends to launch a 3pter on every single occasion and his percentage never seamed to bother him at all.
Right now if you want to compare thoose two guys, Sully can only dream to accomplish as much as David Lee has so far.

[SHAQATTACK]

Sully retweeted this pic of him today

Look at em rolls

Haha but seriously, I can never tell whether Sully looks slimmer or not.

Same here .....I guess we ll just have to wait and see

[chambers]

It is possible, but David Lee is a better shooter than Sully.   It is not even close, Ainge did not take any chances in the offseason, as in the past Sully's promises have rung hollow.  He traded for Lee, resigned Jonas and signed Amir.    That shows me, that Ainge was ready to move on without him either way.

Or the warriors needed to shed $$$ and Danny agreed because he thought that David Lee was a better player than Wallace for only $2 million more....

[Hemingway]

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."
~F. Scott Fitzgerald

[moiso]

Sully retweeted this pic of him today

Look at em rolls

Haha but seriously, I can never tell whether Sully looks slimmer or not.

That's because he is always the same.

[rollie mass]

i am not a fan of people that bully or gloat or feel that they have that right because so in so is a pro-
sully and his weight olynck  hair and  he#s too soft,avery and turner( and i am quilty of screaming at the tv at turners unexplainable lapses-
 i remember green-that guy had his heart cut out and everybody thought he should all of the time play flat out-who knows what inner pschycological scars that had not fully healed--the guy was lucky to be alive-
my son loved basketball and i groomed him to be the best of three generations of my family,he grew up in england and i started him young had him dribble everyday to school with his left hand ,juggling balls for dexterity  all the fakes rollie had taught me and that a good pass was worth 3 points BUT  he played for the joy of the game,i  had played like it was war and angry-well i robbed him of the joy by hounding that kid,get tough,take the shot,don't let him push you ,your not hurt,your not tired ,your not to sick
 all i could see was a 6-5 point guard ,amidextrous who was fastest on squad, great vertical and could shoot with huge wingspan-he stopped being my son and a person
after his final season of premier league and a injury in quarter finals of national championship-he put the ball down and has never picked it up-
now i only  have the joy of watching the celts rebuild-

[dreamgreen]

He still looks fat to me, it's his core and his inability to thin it out. He needs a really strict diet and cardio till he passes out every day.

[rollie mass]

he looks like a guy yo can't bully in the paint,looks like force as a rebounder offensively or defensively-what a power base he has
-there was a forward on notheastern way back in the day harry barnes got nba drafted along with rick weitzman who went to celts ,i was a skinny kid that played for rollie massimino and this was rollie's camp,well everytime i went into the paint this chiseled monster would swat me away like a fly,well i plotted my revenge when he went in the water i pulled him out over his head,he couldn't swim and i told him your not going to do that next time i go in the paint-next time i drove he decked me  again and he never went back in the water.
i could have lifted weights for a lifetime and never have gotten quads like that guy had but as a skinny kid one on one i was almost unbeatable with a deadly jumper and wicked first step,i held my own agains weitzman a defensive specialist.rollie said i had the quickest step he had seen ,it was boderline illegal the timing of the ball hitting the floor to the lift of my pivot foot gave me that fractional  edge.

[SHAQATTACK]

He lol come in at a feather weight 270 .