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Bulpett: Some not sold on Terry Rozier, R.J. Hunter
« on: July 21, 2015, 12:00:50 PM »

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Kind of interesting article from the Herald that gives big praise to the Mickey selection...

LAS VEGAS — Offering up a few notes to lighten the luggage for the trip home after two and a half weeks at summer leagues:

• ??Our annual check on scouts’ opinions of Celtics drafts has generally been quite kind, but many of the league’s talent evaluators are not exactly sold on first-round picks Terry Rozier and R.J. Hunter.

Told that the reviews for his work were not entirely kind, president of basketball operations Danny Ainge shot back, “You’re talking to the wrong people.”

On the other hand, second-rounder Jordan Mickey was drawing praise even before showing his talents at summer league.

Said one personnel man: “He’s going to be so good, he’ll make people forget about the guys they took in the first round. We talked about taking Mickey in the first round, and then we tried to buy a pick early in the second round to get him. But I don’t know about Boston’s first-round guys.”

The funny thing about Rozier is that he grew on some people as the Vegas week progressed. We know of at least two teams that were hoping to take him later in the first round, but even after he stepped up with a gutsy 3-pointer to tie Saturday’s quarterfinal game in the waning seconds, he was still facing questions.

“The thing is whether he’s a point guard,” one general manager said. “I just don’t see it. He’s going to be good on defense, but I can’t see him running an offense. He makes too many mistakes.”

But seconds later, one of the GM’s peers said, “I don’t know how it’s going to work out for (Rozier), but he’s a tough kid, and a lot of times guys like that somehow find a way.”

Several others seemed to fall on their side of that fence.

“I think he’s trying to find his way,” Ainge said. “I’m not worried about Terry. I think a lot of things with his defense are excellent. But you can see he’s got a way to go.”

Hunter, meanwhile, still looks like he’ll be spending some quality time in Maine this winter, but he showed dramatic improvement after a pair of deer-in-the-headlights outings in Salt Lake City.

The interesting thing is that he came advertised as a shooter and, while he still had some man-to-man defensive issues, Hunter showed good instincts getting his hands into passing lanes.

• ??We hesitate to bring this up because it’s an utterly moot point, but we heard more about Kevin Love’s process and think it’s worth sharing.

First off, Love was never close to being a Celtic, OK? His first choice was always to go back to Cleveland because he very much likes the organization and his teammates, and that’s where he believes is his best chance to win now. Are we clear on all this?

But all those who say the Celtics could never attract a major free agent might want to know that, if for any reason the Cavaliers situation hadn’t worked out, he could have wound up in Boston.

According to one impeccable source on the matter — a non-Celtics source — Boston might not be the NBA Siberia some have made it out to be.

“If there was some reason Cleveland didn’t want him, which sounds pretty silly .?.?. but if they wanted to go in a different direction, I think Boston was going to be his second choice,” the source said.

In contradiction to some of the talk when Love took in a Red Sox game last summer at Fenway Park, the trip was not to investigate the city as a potential home.

“He was just in to have some fun,” the source said. “But he really enjoyed himself.”

The key question is why Love would consider the Celtics when the club is still not seen as good enough to attract a major star and needs more than one to become a contender. The reply was that, again if the Cavaliers didn’t return his affection, Love wasn’t afraid to be the first one in, believing the Celts’ ability to recruit another impact player would be improved.

Bottom line: All that should be taken from this is the point that, while it is extremely difficult to get major free agents to change teams — ask the Lakers — the Celtics and Boston aren’t as far out of the picture as some opine.

?????Marcus Smart was very good for a rookie, but he’ll be much better as a sophomore.

• It’s always difficult to judge bigs in summer settings because of the lack of size, but Jonathan Holmes looked more than solid.

• Corey Walden didn’t get to show all he could because of a hamstring injury, but he has his fans in this organization and in others.

• ?After another round of transactional twisting, we’re not sure which needs to be simplified more, the U.S. tax code or the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement.

Re: Bulpett: Some not sold on Terry Rozier, R.J. Hunter
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 12:17:53 PM »

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I read the same article about an hour ago and I thought whoever they were talking to were debbydowners. Nobody can be that low on someone that fast. They're probably hating on DeAngello Russell too because he didn't drop 40 a game.

Good to know Boston isn't Siberia. The winters were suggesting otherwise.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 12:26:04 PM »

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Thought the scouts take on rozier was bogus.

How many pure point guards are there in the NBA now, pretty much all the best 1's are combo/scoring guards at this point.

As to him not being able to run the offense, he did a great job in summer league. Rozier created off the dribble found open guys and didn't turn the ball over much at all.
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Re: Bulpett: Some not sold on Terry Rozier, R.J. Hunter
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 12:33:26 PM »

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Thought the scouts take on rozier was bogus.

How many pure point guards are there in the NBA now, pretty much all the best 1's are combo/scoring guards at this point.

As to him not being able to run the offense, he did a great job in summer league. Rozier created off the dribble found open guys and didn't turn the ball over much at all.

Yeah, all Rozier needs to be able to do is move the ball around the perimeter or kick the ball out after driving into the paint.  He doesn't even need to be the passer that Smart is, let alone become Rubio or Rondo or Andre Miller.
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Re: Bulpett: Some not sold on Terry Rozier, R.J. Hunter
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 12:34:37 PM »

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That's complete horse pucky.  All 3 of those guys have the talent and skill to be darn good in the league.  What are they all, 21 ?  I mean give me a break.  Nobody's forgetting these guys any time soon.

I will say though.......There is a reason it's great to have multiple picks.  Really, all you have to do is go 1 for 4 with your 4 picks and you'll be fine.  If you can get 1 guy that can contribute and be good year after year, then you're well on your way to the rebuild.

That's why I say keep the picks if nobody wants to trade.  Draft and hope you hit on at least 1.  If you hit on 2 or 3, even better.  I like your chances with 4 picks in every draft, especially with Danny and his team at the helm.

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 12:41:28 PM »

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 GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 12:47:14 PM »

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I think each guy kind of showed why they were drafted. If you didn't like them during the draft you may not now, but you certainly can't like them less.

Rozier is a guy who is going to give you 110% effort and not going to be afraid. Those are skills you can't teach. He's fast enough to be a problem on offense. Like any other rookie he needs to work on control, and finishing. I like that he not only took big shots, but made big shots. He can play with Smart because you don't NEED a prototypical PG and SG anymore. I think he could help this team develop an identity along with Smart. I am looking forward to seeing the defensive pressure those two put on opposing backcourts.

Hunter showed a high basketball IQ, unlimited range, play making, and disruptive defense. He may not ever be a lock down guy in the NBA, but he doesn't need to be. Kyle Korver is a guy who isn't lauded for his defense, but in the right system he succeeded, and his offensive abilities made the Hawks one of the best in the league. I would like to see him come off the bench/be a situational player in his first year. Let him learn how to play off the ball (he handled the ball quite a bti) and adjust to playing man defense.

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 12:53:12 PM »

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Thought the scouts take on rozier was bogus.

How many pure point guards are there in the NBA now, pretty much all the best 1's are combo/scoring guards at this point.

As to him not being able to run the offense, he did a great job in summer league. Rozier created off the dribble found open guys and didn't turn the ball over much at all.

I agree, the "traditional" PG is pretty much out the door. I think DA and Stevens are looking for guys who have one thing they are really good at and average at the rest.

Smart and Rozier are really good Defenders. Smart slightly better at the D, but Rozier better with the dribble and getting to the rim, Smart has a bit better BBIQ so he runs the offense a bit better and makes good passes. Both shoot the 3 about the same, both can get hot for beyond the arc.

Hunter his a really good shooter, and has a huge BBIQ. Makes really good plays even if he's not in the play. His D is better than I thought, I think 15 more pounds of muscle will fix a lot of his weakness's. But you could actually have Smart or Rozier take the ball down the court and the first pass can be to Hunter and he starts the offense.

Mickey I think is going to have the hardest time right now making the rotation just because we are so strong and deep at the PF. But he can play the center in small ball line ups with his shot blocking skill. He's even complement KO,and Sully. He could be a Ben Wallace type but with a mid range Jump shot. Now I don't know if he has the 3 range, but if he can become a Bass type shooter with that kind of blocking ability, thats a heck of a steel.

It stinks that Smart got hurt. I think he could have been SL first team. He had one bad shooting game, but did other things for the win. I have mixed feelings about him. I love how he plays, but some times goes overboard with his toughness. I hated when he was bulling down the lane even though he was getting the calls, but loved seeing him using a floater with success. That could be huge. His handles are better but still not good enough for full time PG work, needs to get that tighter. He's one of our biggest trade pieces, but I'd hate to give him up with the threat that he's the type of player that moving him would create a chip on his shoulder and he would make us pay every night that we didn't keep him.

While I dont' think as of right now DA got any superstars, he may have snagged a couple of boarder line All Stars, and maybe one In Smart and possible Hunter as well.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 12:59:25 PM »

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Seems like some people out there are regretting that they didn't pick Rozier and Hunter. Time will tell whether or not the above mentioned guys belong in the NBA. You simply can't judge them solely based on Summer League etc...
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 01:01:45 PM »

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It's too early to say anything, but I am amused how outraged some people were about the draft and how now some of those same people are sold on these draft picks because of summer league play which has time and time again proven to be indicative of nothing.

Listen, I am pleased with the way the young guys have played too, but to dismiss these scouts' opinions isn't responsible either. It's not like Danny has a flawless track record in the draft (J.R. Giddens, Marcus Banks, JaJuan Johnson) and it's not like we haven't all be high on young guys who amounted to nothing (Gabe Pruitt, Bill Walker, Luke Harangody, E'Twaun Moore).

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 01:26:50 PM »

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GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

You bring up an interesting point about the Bulls at 22 drafting Rozier not being an issue, but there is a valid reason.  The Bulls NEED a backup point guard for Rose.  The Celtics didn't NEED Rozier.  This is why Ainge is getting so much Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. for his draft.  Last year we drafted at the #6 Marcus Smart a point guard, and at #17 we drafted James Young a shooting guard/small forward.  This year we drafted at #16 a point guard in Terry Rozier, at #28 we draft R.J. Hunter who's a shooting guard, #45 we draft a shooting guard/point guard in Marcus Thornton.  Jordan Mickey was the only true smart pick for where we were picking. 

I'm not saying Rozier, Hunter and Thornton are not good players, but they weren't good fits for the Celtics at the drafting position.  They only one I'm a little intrigued with is Hunter because he can shoot very well, but also interested in why he fell to us. 

Personally I think they would have been better taking a Sam Dekker even though I'm not a huge fan, but he's a small forward who can play.  Or also a Justin Anderson who is that small forward/shooting guard who can also shoot the three.  I believe if we took Portis at 16 it would have been no issue, a solid big man who can play power forward and maybe the center. 

I think if he drafted these players I'm going to list he wouldn't be under a microscope or his players he drafted. 

#16 Sam Dekker (Position of need, skill sets match what we need.)
#28 Montrezl Harrell (Personal favorite but rebounds, second highest scorer for Cardinals, the most heart out of any player in this draft, Tommy would love his hustle, great at put backs, and is a up and down two way player, Rockets got a steal at 32 with this guy.)
#33 Jordan Mickey (shot blocker, rebounds, can be a scorer.) 
At #28 and #33 they fill in where we're able to trade Olynke, Sully and they also are great big man.
#45 Robert Upshaw (Yes, issues could be, but at #45 he's worth a risk unlike another guard who's now not going to play for us even this year.)

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2015, 01:57:17 PM »

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GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

You bring up a VALID point .......anything the Bulls do is viewed and portrayed by the spin doctors of sports as. ....gospel .,,,,,,,,,,what's more most of the ignorant followers of said media buy into these bogus pile of dog turd opinions .    Same for the Lakers and Knicks ........if they are involved  in something it must be the latest and greatest .


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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2015, 02:06:27 PM »

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GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

You bring up an interesting point about the Bulls at 22 drafting Rozier not being an issue, but there is a valid reason.  The Bulls NEED a backup point guard for Rose.  The Celtics didn't NEED Rozier.  This is why Ainge is getting so much **** for his draft.  Last year we drafted at the #6 Marcus Smart a point guard, and at #17 we drafted James Young a shooting guard/small forward.  This year we drafted at #16 a point guard in Terry Rozier, at #28 we draft R.J. Hunter who's a shooting guard, #45 we draft a shooting guard/point guard in Marcus Thornton.  Jordan Mickey was the only true smart pick for where we were picking. 

I'm not saying Rozier, Hunter and Thornton are not good players, but they weren't good fits for the Celtics at the drafting position.  They only one I'm a little intrigued with is Hunter because he can shoot very well, but also interested in why he fell to us. 

Personally I think they would have been better taking a Sam Dekker even though I'm not a huge fan, but he's a small forward who can play.  Or also a Justin Anderson who is that small forward/shooting guard who can also shoot the three.  I believe if we took Portis at 16 it would have been no issue, a solid big man who can play power forward and maybe the center. 

I think if he drafted these players I'm going to list he wouldn't be under a microscope or his players he drafted. 

#16 Sam Dekker (Position of need, skill sets match what we need.)
#28 Montrezl Harrell (Personal favorite but rebounds, second highest scorer for Cardinals, the most heart out of any player in this draft, Tommy would love his hustle, great at put backs, and is a up and down two way player, Rockets got a steal at 32 with this guy.)
#33 Jordan Mickey (shot blocker, rebounds, can be a scorer.) 
At #28 and #33 they fill in where we're able to trade Olynke, Sully and they also are great big man.
#45 Robert Upshaw (Yes, issues could be, but at #45 he's worth a risk unlike another guard who's now not going to play for us even this year.)

None of the guys that were projected at the 16th pick range are high upside guys. I don't believe anyone in the rebuilding stage drafts for need, I don't know why Ainge would all of a sudden start now. I believe Ainge really liked Rozier the best with what was available at that point and wasn't going to risk hoping he was there at the 28th pick.

I also disagree with that we don't need Rozier, he provides the slashing/ball handling at the guard position we need.  Only other guy who can provide us this is IT4 and he'll be relegated to the bench.

As far Derrick Rose goes, I think his future in Chicago is becoming pretty bleak and that if the Butler and Rose rifts are true than the Bulls are looking ahead at the future of the team which makes perfect sense since Thibs has been fired and the rapid decline of Joakim Noah is only pushing the agenda. The one piece they have now is Butler and he's the guy they are building around.

 

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2015, 02:14:02 PM »

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GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

You bring up an interesting point about the Bulls at 22 drafting Rozier not being an issue, but there is a valid reason.  The Bulls NEED a backup point guard for Rose.  The Celtics didn't NEED Rozier.  This is why Ainge is getting so much **** for his draft.  Last year we drafted at the #6 Marcus Smart a point guard, and at #17 we drafted James Young a shooting guard/small forward.  This year we drafted at #16 a point guard in Terry Rozier, at #28 we draft R.J. Hunter who's a shooting guard, #45 we draft a shooting guard/point guard in Marcus Thornton.  Jordan Mickey was the only true smart pick for where we were picking. 

I'm not saying Rozier, Hunter and Thornton are not good players, but they weren't good fits for the Celtics at the drafting position.  They only one I'm a little intrigued with is Hunter because he can shoot very well, but also interested in why he fell to us. 

Personally I think they would have been better taking a Sam Dekker even though I'm not a huge fan, but he's a small forward who can play.  Or also a Justin Anderson who is that small forward/shooting guard who can also shoot the three.  I believe if we took Portis at 16 it would have been no issue, a solid big man who can play power forward and maybe the center. 

I think if he drafted these players I'm going to list he wouldn't be under a microscope or his players he drafted. 

#16 Sam Dekker (Position of need, skill sets match what we need.)
#28 Montrezl Harrell (Personal favorite but rebounds, second highest scorer for Cardinals, the most heart out of any player in this draft, Tommy would love his hustle, great at put backs, and is a up and down two way player, Rockets got a steal at 32 with this guy.)
#33 Jordan Mickey (shot blocker, rebounds, can be a scorer.) 
At #28 and #33 they fill in where we're able to trade Olynke, Sully and they also are great big man.
#45 Robert Upshaw (Yes, issues could be, but at #45 he's worth a risk unlike another guard who's now not going to play for us even this year.)

None of the guys that were projected at the 16th pick range are high upside guys. I don't believe anyone in the rebuilding stage drafts for need, I don't know why Ainge would all of a sudden start now. I believe Ainge really like Rozier the best with what was available at that point and wasn't going to risk hoping he was there at the 28th pick.

I also disagree with that we don't need Rozier, he provides the slashing/ball handling at the guard position we need.  Only other guy who can provide us this is IT4 and he'll be relegated to the bench.

As far Derrick Rose goes, I think his future in Chicago is becoming pretty bleak and that if the Butler and Rose rifts are true than the Bulls are looking ahead at the future of the team which makes perfect sense since Thibs has been fired and the rapid decline of Joakim Noah is only pushing the agenda. The one piece they have now is Butler and he's the guy they are building around.

 

So you just made the point I did, we didn't NEED a point guard that scores/slashes.  Rozier is just as good of a ball handler as Smart or IT, not any better.  So we got an IT 2.0 that's a couple inches taller.  When last year we drafted a point guard at the 6th spot, who will be our starting point guard.  Mind you we also drafted it when we also had Pressey so 3 point guards on the roster.  I'm not saying Rozier is a bad player, but at 16th we needed either a center, a big man that plays defense or a starting/soon to be starting small forward.

What are you disagreeing on Rose?  I said if we had drafted our NEED, the Bulls would have drafted a NEED in Rozier. 

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GM's will change there tune quickly.  Sounds like these GM's wanted to get Rozier, Hunter, and Mickey in the 2nd round as a pure value play.

I know if the Bulls got Rozier at 22 instead of Portis it wouldn't even be criticized.  Anyone Ainge would of drafted would of gotten criticism due to our rebuilding situation, he has a magnifying glass right now on every move we make. Think about it, with no real stars on our team and tons of draft picks that we still have everyone is interested in what we do and how it will play out.

You bring up an interesting point about the Bulls at 22 drafting Rozier not being an issue, but there is a valid reason.  The Bulls NEED a backup point guard for Rose.  The Celtics didn't NEED Rozier.  This is why Ainge is getting so much **** for his draft.  Last year we drafted at the #6 Marcus Smart a point guard, and at #17 we drafted James Young a shooting guard/small forward.  This year we drafted at #16 a point guard in Terry Rozier, at #28 we draft R.J. Hunter who's a shooting guard, #45 we draft a shooting guard/point guard in Marcus Thornton.  Jordan Mickey was the only true smart pick for where we were picking. 

I'm not saying Rozier, Hunter and Thornton are not good players, but they weren't good fits for the Celtics at the drafting position.  They only one I'm a little intrigued with is Hunter because he can shoot very well, but also interested in why he fell to us. 

Personally I think they would have been better taking a Sam Dekker even though I'm not a huge fan, but he's a small forward who can play.  Or also a Justin Anderson who is that small forward/shooting guard who can also shoot the three.  I believe if we took Portis at 16 it would have been no issue, a solid big man who can play power forward and maybe the center. 

I think if he drafted these players I'm going to list he wouldn't be under a microscope or his players he drafted. 

#16 Sam Dekker (Position of need, skill sets match what we need.)
#28 Montrezl Harrell (Personal favorite but rebounds, second highest scorer for Cardinals, the most heart out of any player in this draft, Tommy would love his hustle, great at put backs, and is a up and down two way player, Rockets got a steal at 32 with this guy.)
#33 Jordan Mickey (shot blocker, rebounds, can be a scorer.) 
At #28 and #33 they fill in where we're able to trade Olynke, Sully and they also are great big man.
#45 Robert Upshaw (Yes, issues could be, but at #45 he's worth a risk unlike another guard who's now not going to play for us even this year.)

None of the guys that were projected at the 16th pick range are high upside guys. I don't believe anyone in the rebuilding stage drafts for need, I don't know why Ainge would all of a sudden start now. I believe Ainge really like Rozier the best with what was available at that point and wasn't going to risk hoping he was there at the 28th pick.

I also disagree with that we don't need Rozier, he provides the slashing/ball handling at the guard position we need.  Only other guy who can provide us this is IT4 and he'll be relegated to the bench.

As far Derrick Rose goes, I think his future in Chicago is becoming pretty bleak and that if the Butler and Rose rifts are true than the Bulls are looking ahead at the future of the team which makes perfect sense since Thibs has been fired and the rapid decline of Joakim Noah is only pushing the agenda. The one piece they have now is Butler and he's the guy they are building around.

 

So you just made the point I did, we didn't NEED a point guard that scores/slashes.  Rozier is just as good of a ball handler as Smart or IT, not any better.  So we got an IT 2.0 that's a couple inches taller.  When last year we drafted a point guard at the 6th spot, who will be our starting point guard.  Mind you we also drafted it when we also had Pressey so 3 point guards on the roster.  I'm not saying Rozier is a bad player, but at 16th we needed either a center, a big man that plays defense or a starting/soon to be starting small forward.

What are you disagreeing on Rose?  I said if we had drafted our NEED, the Bulls would have drafted a NEED in Rozier.
Ainge didnt think Dekker was BPA. I agreed.

For a team like Chicago looking to get a little boost then drafting for need helps, but as we really have no idea what the next Celtics contender will look like BPA makes the most sense.

Disagreeing on who BPA was is fair, but Im glad Ainge took who he thought was BPA rather than who fit a need.