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Re: RJ Hunter - Globe Article
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 12:29:05 AM »

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Anthony Brown was a 5th year player at Stanford and averaged less than 1 steal a game....RJ Hunter averaged almost 2 steals every year.

Very fair point. But is it also fair to suggest that he posted that in the Sun Belt Conference compare to Brown who's playing in the Pac-12?

Sure, but its also fair to point out that Brown wasn't the best player on his team and didn't receive the double teams and defensive schemes that Hunter did.

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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2015, 12:30:22 AM »

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Anthony Brown was a 5th year player at Stanford and averaged less than 1 steal a game....RJ Hunter averaged almost 2 steals every year.

Very fair point. But is it also fair to suggest that he posted that in the Sun Belt Conference compare to Brown who's playing in the Pac-12?

Sure, but its also fair to point out that Brown wasn't the best player on his team and didn't receive the double teams and defensive schemes that Hunter did.

Point taken.

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 12:31:45 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2015, 12:32:50 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

This pick better not berry James Young even further down the pecking order. I want to see Young get more playing time this year.
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Re: RJ Hunter - Globe Article
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2015, 12:35:47 AM »

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Anthony Brown was a 5th year player at Stanford and averaged less than 1 steal a game....RJ Hunter averaged almost 2 steals every year.

Very fair point. But is it also fair to suggest that he posted that in the Sun Belt Conference compare to Brown who's playing in the Pac-12?

Sure, but its also fair to point out that Brown wasn't the best player on his team and didn't receive the double teams and defensive schemes that Hunter did.

Point taken.

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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2015, 12:37:32 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

This pick better not berry James Young even further down the pecking order. I want to see Young get more playing time this year.

It'll be his own fault.  Best man wins

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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2015, 12:38:17 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

This pick better not berry James Young even further down the pecking order. I want to see Young get more playing time this year.

Not sure I understand why so many are so high on James Young. From what I saw, I was not impressed. Granted, it was just his rookie year but that's the only sample size I have to judge him on so I am not really sold on him at all.


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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2015, 12:38:20 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

This pick better not berry James Young even further down the pecking order. I want to see Young get more playing time this year.

I think the only thing that can stop Young from getting time is Young.  I watched him play a lot in person for the Red Claws and the guy could fill it up for a stretch and then disappear.  He made zero effort on the defensive end as well.   

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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2015, 12:39:59 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

You don't know that at all.

We haven't seen RJ play in the NBA level. We've seen Young and IMO it wasn't all that impressive. Let's temper our love for Young and give Hunter a chance at least.

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2015, 12:47:39 AM »

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I'm having a hard time buying into the "shooter" RJ Hunter.

His stats says that in his college career he averaged 35% from 3PT, 42% from the field overall. His last year, he averaged 39% from the field, 30% from the 3PT.  That's not good numbers for a supposed "shooter" isn't it, or am I being crazy? I get that he has a quick release and he has range, but will he be able to post better numbers than that in the NBA? Also, will he be able to defend?

I just can't buy in. He's supposedly a shooter, but his efficiency is bad. Now granted, he's averaging 7 3PT's per game, so 35% could be a decent percentage because of the volume, but that's still, well, decent. Not good enough for me to get too excited.

Just to compare, the 34th pick in the draft (unfortunately by the Lakers, and this stings because he's a Stanford dude and now I have to root for him as a Laker) is Anthony Brown. His career shooting numbers in college are 42% FG, same as Hunter, 40% from 3PT (averaging 4 attempts per game), way better. His senior year he shot 43% from the field, 44% from 3PT. He's 6'7", 215 and can show he can defend. Is it crazy to suggest that we could have been better off with Anthony Brown over RJ Hunter?

Yes, I think it is crazy.

I didn't like the Rozier pick but actually like the Hunter pick.

I am actually really surprised he was available at 28 but I am happy we got him.
Like someone else mentioned, he could end up being another JJ Redick, maybe even better.

Fair, but hear me out.

Brown, statistically, seems to be a much more efficient 3PT shooter. Brown's defensive potential is definitely better than Hunter, as he's bigger and more athletic. Brown also posted those numbers playing in a better conference.

Problem with Brown is he seems like he doesn't have much offensive ability outside of spot up threes.  He ranked at the absolute bottom of the draft class in 2PT%, seems quite turnover prone (poor handle). and seems like he struggles to shoot off the move, and can't finish around the basket.

Hunter by comparison is a decent ball handling, a good passer, and can shoot in a variety of situations (moving, on pull ups, spot ups, off screens, etc). 

All of this combined IMO is what gives him the potential to one day become more than just a pure spot up shooter.  Not necessarily high potential to become more but some potential. 

Brown looks like likely to become a James Jones type, and that's about it.

I think Brown is more just a shooter, while Hunter has more potential to develop into an actual  scorer (e.g. a Kevin Martin type).

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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2015, 12:50:14 AM »

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I did actually like the RJ Hunter pick

I actually feel he's going to be a lot better than James Young, who I personally wasn't impressed with at all in the limited time he played.

Very streaky shooter.
I'd be surprised if he is Young is still younger by almost two years. As a freshman Young looked much better than RJ did his last year. Young>Hunter

You don't know that at all.

We haven't seen RJ play in the NBA level. We've seen Young and IMO it wasn't all that impressive. Let's temper our love for Young and give Hunter a chance at least.

My expectations of Young were honestly never THAT high.  I also feel hunter has more potential as an overall offensive player - the full package - than Young.

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2015, 01:12:43 AM »

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he was picked in slot #28 of the draft. only about 25% of all drafted players in the twenties ever have careers of any type in the nba. if he can make the celtics with his shooting and carve out a career, then ainge would have done a good job in getting him.
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Re: RJ Hunter - Globe Article
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2015, 10:08:24 AM »

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If you believe in the statistical analysis done by ESPN in this article the chance of success aren't very good.  At the same time, they are slightly better than the numbers for Jerian Grant.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/projecting-the-top-50-players-in-the-2015-nba-draft-class/

We need Hunter or Young to be starters or better....

At the same time, ESPN also says this:

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Our analytics guru Kevin Pelton had Hunter ranked as a top-10 prospect, and while I'm not sure I'd go that far, he's a potentially elite shooter and a very good playmaker for his size.


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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2015, 10:14:29 AM »

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Im a fan... I think he will be steal of the draft

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2015, 11:16:25 AM »

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hunter was taking three's from new york city and had defenses stacked on him,james has put the work in so far off season building himself up and rj has that slight frame-but so did prince
,prince ran his routes as deceptively as anyone ive seen-stuff you can't teach just so fluid and economical and timed
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