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Celtics attempted to grab 4th Pick by Using Sully and Picks
« on: June 26, 2015, 09:39:08 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62410/sources-nyk-celts-talked-sullinger-deal


Members of the New York Knicks’ front office were involved in discussions with Orlando, Phoenix and Boston in the hours leading up to the draft on Thursday, league sources with knowledge of the conversations say.

Sources say that the Celtics were discussing a package that included multiple picks and big man Jared Sullinger with New York and that Phoenix talked to members of the organization about a trade involving Eric Bledsoe in the hours leading up to the draft.

It is unclear how far any of the talks advanced, but Jackson eventually settled on selecting Kristaps Porzingis with the fourth pick.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM »

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I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 10:08:56 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.

I doubt it.  I would have gone with Hezonja or Porzingis all the way.  More upside, even though Winslow's floor is prob. higher with his solid BBiQ and defense.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 10:10:08 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.
Ainge clearly liked Winslow. 

I don't get why we couldn't have made incremental steps.  The #12 pick was being shopped... couldn't we have moved up to #12... and then from 12 to 9?  I mean... Wouldn't kaminsky have been there at 12?  The Hornets are nuts.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 10:10:54 PM »

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Quote from: KevinGamble on June 26, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.

I doubt it.  I would have gone with Hezonja or Porzingis all the way.  More upside, even though Winslow's floor is prob. higher with his solid BBiQ and defense.

I agree with you.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 10:11:52 PM »

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Quote from: KevinGamble on June 26, 2015, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.

I doubt it.  I would have gone with Hezonja or Porzingis all the way.  More upside, even though Winslow's floor is prob. higher with his solid BBiQ and defense.

Oh I would too, but Ainge was clearly after Winslow last night. He also hasn't drafted a foreign guy other than Semih Erden.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 10:14:59 PM »

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Quote from: LarBrd33 on June 26, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on June 26, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
I'm guessing we would have taken Winslow at 4, which makes the failed Hornets trade hurt even more.
Ainge clearly liked Winslow. 

I don't get why we couldn't have made incremental steps.  The #12 pick was being shopped... couldn't we have moved up to #12... and then from 12 to 9?  I mean... Wouldn't kaminsky have been there at 12?  The Hornets are nuts.

It would be tough to do, since most teams like to see who's available before trading their pick
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Re: Celtics attempted to grab 4th Pick by Using Sully and Picks
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 10:25:22 PM »

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  The Celtics were chasing 1 player last night and his name was Porzingis!  They most likely had a deal with the Knicks that included Sully and either Winslow or Kaminsky.  No team between 5 and 9 would relinquish their pick for anything reasonable.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 10:30:04 PM »

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If Winslow is as good as Danny apparently thinks he is... how annoyed are you with Pat Riley?  Luckiest/best GM in the game?  Stuff just keeps falling in his lap.  Whether it's LeBron/Bosh... or possibly a franchise center out of freakin nowhere... or arguably a top 4 prospect at #10?... Dude... So lucky.

I actually doubt Winslow will be that good.  I just think it more speaks to how mediocre everything after #9 was.  Mostly worthless picks... might as well combine all of them and try to get someone with a real future.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 10:43:15 PM »

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  I don't think for a minute Danny was unloading a million picks for Winslow or Kaminsky, they almost certainly had a deal in place with the knicks that was contingent on the Celtics picking up Winslow or Kaminsky + Sully.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 10:43:15 PM »

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oooohh..sully!  talk about a trade package.   Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.in' danny is delusional.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 10:46:37 PM »

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Quote from: Chief Macho on June 26, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
oooohh..sully!  talk about a trade package.   ****in' danny is delusional.

How dare he shoot for the moon right?!
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 10:48:10 PM »

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I called it in the draft prediction thread. I thought Danny would have been able to get Porzingis without giving up Smart since NY is known to make questionable decisions.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 10:49:12 PM »

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These are cocktail party jokes, not offers. Unless his offer for 9 included Smart and several picks, he didn't make any real offers yesterday that we are aware of.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 10:53:42 PM »

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Quote from: Chief Macho on June 26, 2015, 10:43:15 PM
oooohh..sully!  talk about a trade package.   ****in' danny is delusional.

I would have probably included Sully in a package for the 9 pick honestly. The guy is a walking free agency nightmare..
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