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Re: George Karl no longer in the loop for the draft decisions
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2015, 07:27:00 PM »

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Good for Sacramento. Next step is to fire that trouble-maker.

the trouble maker who has a very good track record. While protecting a crybaby who has lead your team to nowhere.   Made you go through 3 or 4 coaching changes.

Teams get rid of top tier coaches all the time for FAR lesser reasons.

Chicago just got rid of Thibs, probably THE most valuable asset on that team and biggest reason for their success.  He's the one consistent person who's been active on that roster through their entire run as a eastern conference power.

Boston 'traded' Doc Rivers to take a chance on a rookie coach.

Things like this happen all the time if the team wants to go in a different direction.

But how often does a team get rid of a 24 yar old, 6'11", 270 pound Center who just averaged 24/14/3/1/1 two seasons in a row and is a force on both ends of the court?  The answer is - you don't, unless you have no other choice. 

Also this whole 'cry baby' talk is childish garbage. 

Cousins plays with passion and heart.  If you're going to call him a cry baby then you're basically calling Kevin Garnett a cry baby, because they have almost the exact same type of personality.

Karl is a moron - whether you like Cousins or not, for a coach to go behind his team's back to try and get rid of their franchise player is a disgraceful and completely unprofessional move.  It's no better than Dwight Howard going behind Van Gundy's back to get him fired, and then acting like his best friend right afterwards. It's disgusting. 

if he pulls off this garbage and ends up getting fired because of it, then I don't know if any team is going to consider picking him up after a fiasco like that.

That's true, but I would not be the least bit surprised to find out that Cousins was agitating to get out either way and ownership goaded Karl to push him out the door.
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Re: George Karl no longer in the loop for the draft decisions
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2015, 07:27:57 PM »

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If Karl was in fact organizing a mutiny on the team, he should be fired for cause.

Ouch.  Cousins by many accounts is hard to motivate and hard to coach. (Doesn't listen). 

There have been many star players over the years that have had difficult personalities, are hard to coach, etc.

Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and Rajon Rondo are three immediate ones that come to mind.

Yet while those guys were in their prime, their teams stuck with them - even if the coaches at times may have gotten frustrated with them.

There aren't that many legit superstar / franchise player calibre talents in the NBA at a given time - if you have one (especially on a good contract) then you do not, under any circumstances, push them away.

The fact that so many teams are showing interest in Cousins just goes to show how little opposing coaches seem to care about his supposed attitude problems.

Re: George Karl no longer in the loop for the draft decisions
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2015, 07:31:36 PM »

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Good for Sacramento. Next step is to fire that trouble-maker.

the trouble maker who has a very good track record. While protecting a crybaby who has lead your team to nowhere.   Made you go through 3 or 4 coaching changes.

Amen.  Didn't Westphal go thru the same thing. What makes this guy coachable?  All accounts seem to be that boogie is the Bogeyman becoming a nightmare for any coach looking for longevity.
God forbid that someone stood for something taking the reigns.

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Re: George Karl no longer in the loop for the draft decisions
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2015, 07:36:53 PM »

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That's true, but I would not be the least bit surprised to find out that Cousins was agitating to get out either way and ownership goaded Karl to push him out the door.

I don't think it's fair to make those kind of assumptions.

I've been following Cousins for some time now, and I've never seen any LEGITIMATE media reports of him demanding trades, forcing teammates to get traded, forcing coaches to get fired, etc.

People make up this big image of him being this troublemaker who tries to cause problems with everybody, but he's spent about 4 seasons now playing for the most horrendously managed franchise in the NBA (and possibly in all of professional sports) yet to this point he has not once made a clear public attempt to force changes.

People are all over Cousins for being a 'team cancer' type guy, but when discussion moves to a guy like Kevin Love (who requested trades and FORCED his way out of Minny) everybody gets on the defensive and says stuff like "But he had bad teams and bad coaches and got tired of losing".

Well Cousins has had bad teams, even worse coaches, and an even worse franchise, and has lost just as much, but he's never done the dirty "force my way out" like Love did so I just don't get why he cops all the flak while guys like Love get off with a get out of jail free card.

Just because Cousins plays with an extreme passion on the court (which sometimes gets him in trouble with officials, etc) it's like people just take that to assume that he's a trouble maker who causes locker room problems.

How many times have team mates complained about Cousins (as Rubio subtly did about Love lacking leadership skills)?  I've heard none.

How many times have you heard of Cousins getting fights with teammates (e.g. Lance Stephenson, Gilbert Arenas)?

i haven't heard of any, and if you hear the guy talk in an interview he actually sounds very humble and pretty intelligent (by NBA standards).  Always freely admits that he's a passionate guy and sometimes his passion gets the better of him and admits that this is one of his weaknesses as a player.

I love his personality and his attitude.  The guy has heart - he's not a sissy attention seeking mommas boy like Lebron, who runs around looking for media attention an telling the world how great he is.