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Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2015, 02:50:55 PM »

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I'd do a David Lee trade if we're getting Festus Ezeli.

I'm not sure if we would improve a lot with Lee, as consistent as he has been avid entire career, but I think it would really improve the team if were getting s legit Center in Festus. I'd be willing to give Gerald Wallace, Kelly or Sully, James Young and the #28 for that. David Lee can still play.

But you won't get Ezeli.  They aren't going to trade both of their bigs backing up Bogut who's injury prone.  If you take on Lee it will be the Warriors throwing a pick in and that's all.  To me it's not worth it.  It hurts our flexibility for trades/ FA signings and Lee is past his prime.

Then no trade, then. I'm basically saying that if Lee will be traded to us, Ezeli has to be coming with him or no trade.

Also, Lee averaged 15/10 per 36. I don't care if he's part his prime as long as he can put those numbers consistently, and in his career, he has been consistent. Ezeli also gives us a young, competent Center. And at the very least, Lee is a $15 million expiring contract.
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Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2015, 03:36:35 PM »

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Another 4 who can't guard anyone.  Let's do it!

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2015, 03:46:38 PM »

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What team would cripple themselves with Lee for the worst pick in the draft?  First there has to be a team with the space to take him, which knocks off most teams.  Then you have to basically knock off $15mil a year in salary cap for two years.  Ouch.  If the GM of Golden State can get a team to do that, then more power to them. 

I think the 76ers would laugh at that offer.  I'd like to hear that call though, "hey Hinkie, how would you like to take the 30th best player in the NCAA or overseas in the draft this year and guarantee him three years of salary for just the price of two years of David Lee at $15mil per?"

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2015, 03:47:13 PM »

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Another 4 who can't guard anyone.  Let's do it!

True. But compare to the 4's we have, this one is a walking double double and a consistent scoring threat. Sure, his help defense is suspect, but he can offer a lot more on the offensive end that anyone we have right now.
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Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2015, 03:50:36 PM »

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I guess this year is over so Lee only has one more season of $15mil?  That isn't as bad once free agency is over and make the 1st round pick next year's unprotected.

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2015, 03:50:40 PM »

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What team would cripple themselves with Lee for the worst pick in the draft?  First there has to be a team with the space to take him, which knocks off most teams.  Then you have to basically knock off $15mil a year in salary cap for two years.  Ouch.  If the GM of Golden State can get a team to do that, then more power to them. 

I think the 76ers would laugh at that offer.  I'd like to hear that call though, "hey Hinkie, how would you like to take the 30th best player in the NCAA or overseas in the draft this year and guarantee him three years of salary for just the price of two years of David Lee at $15mil per?"

What two years?

David Lee's contract is expiring next year, which makes him an attractive piece because he can help either financiall or talent wise.
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Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2015, 03:56:15 PM »

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If we could get him for nothing, maybe. But it sounds like that's not the case. Can't stand him personally, but I can see that he may benefit from a change of scenery, and could possibly increase his value here, a.l.a ET, IT4, Jerebko, Crowder, etc.

As I understand it, the trade exemption does expire if not used, so kudos for creativity, but I'm not exactly pumped about adding him and his 15 million to our roster.
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Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2015, 04:50:54 PM »

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What team would cripple themselves with Lee for the worst pick in the draft?  First there has to be a team with the space to take him, which knocks off most teams.  Then you have to basically knock off $15mil a year in salary cap for two years.  Ouch.  If the GM of Golden State can get a team to do that, then more power to them. 

I think the 76ers would laugh at that offer.  I'd like to hear that call though, "hey Hinkie, how would you like to take the 30th best player in the NCAA or overseas in the draft this year and guarantee him three years of salary for just the price of two years of David Lee at $15mil per?"

What two years?

David Lee's contract is expiring next year, which makes him an attractive piece because he can help either financiall or talent wise.

Beat you to it by 4 seconds.  It is attractive if we strike out on the free agent market.

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2015, 05:33:04 PM »

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What team would cripple themselves with Lee for the worst pick in the draft?  First there has to be a team with the space to take him, which knocks off most teams.  Then you have to basically knock off $15mil a year in salary cap for two years.  Ouch.  If the GM of Golden State can get a team to do that, then more power to them. 

I think the 76ers would laugh at that offer.  I'd like to hear that call though, "hey Hinkie, how would you like to take the 30th best player in the NCAA or overseas in the draft this year and guarantee him three years of salary for just the price of two years of David Lee at $15mil per?"

What two years?

David Lee's contract is expiring next year, which makes him an attractive piece because he can help either financiall or talent wise.

Beat you to it by 4 seconds.  It is attractive if we strike out on the free agent market.

The Warriors will want to do something prior to that so they can sign Green.  Also, there's always the 76'ers who will need to take on salary to reach the lower level of the cap or be penalized.  Someone will take Lee for a low first round or a 2nd round pick.  Plus Lee's salary will become somewhat valuable around the trade deadline.  The Celtics aren't interested in Lee.  He doesn't help them enough to hamstring themselves. 

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2015, 11:34:48 PM »

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i guess it wont be worth it from our point of view
as we dont generate a trade exception and we may move back 2 spots

also from GSW point of view they would have to take on another contract that they probably wouldnt want

thanks to everyone who cleared up the trade exceptions

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2015, 11:36:50 PM »

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actually knicks might be interested in david lee if it includes #30

as there are rumours that phil wants a pick at the end of the draft or early 2nd round to target someone there

they may improve with lee on the roster considering their lack of talent this season
not sure how it works out for them money wise

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2015, 11:41:45 PM »

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David lee will be traded from golden state warriors as they don't want to pay his 15 mil plus luxury tax they expect to accrue from keeping him next season

Also lee is still a good player but has notable deficiencies in his game which would make teams wary of picking him up such as defence, injury and his $15 mil price tag

Assuming no team is interested in trading for him
GSW would be forced to salary dump him
Which celtics can facilitate considering our large rondo trade exception

My proposed trade
Celtics trade Chris babb
Golden state trade David lee, 2015 #30pick

Celtics get David lee (a productive player albeit now in another crowded frontcourt situation) , another first rounder  and not sure but another large trade exception generated from difference in babb and lees contracts

Golden state get to remove lee and waive babb to have room to resign other players and not pay steep luxury tax

Who's Chris Babb?

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2015, 12:26:49 AM »

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Im down for Lee as long as the pursuit for Love and Aldridge don't succeed. He's still good for 15-18 points and 8-10 rebounds. He's a smart player with no ego issues and he's a fit with Brad's system because he thrives on the fundamentals of the game. I've always loved watching him on the offensive end.

It's not ideal but Lee makes the playoff push stronger and Boston all the more attractive to big names. Not to mention having him on board may push Sully to get in better shape.

He doesn't solve the rim protection issues though.

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2015, 12:37:06 AM »

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No huge interest here, but it'd be good to have someone playing for their pay, if Wallace will continue to sit. Use Wallace to get Lee, and let Lee play. Might make sense, but maybe not the best move for a team like ours in transition. Nice veteran presence though.

Re: GSW David lee - celtics proposed trade
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2015, 02:04:31 AM »

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Sweet Jesus David Lee and Gerald Wallace both on the court. At the same time. MAKE IT HAPPEN..

No really that 2016 draft is looking meaner by the day.
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