Noah to C's?

[colincb]

Sun-Times used to be a good newspaper until Murdoch bought it and turned it into Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.e by his brand of alchemy.  Since then went into and out of bankruptcy and is struggling.  The author is a bit of a clown. OTOH, both the Sun-Times and the Tribune say Thibs is headed for a divorce from the Bulls, so a break-up and rebuild seems like a good bet. Noah at 30 with injury issues would certainly seem like a strong possibility to go.  Another trade bandied about would be Noah + a first to OKC for Kantar.

[SHAQATTACK]

Turrible

Never could shoot , as his prime athletic game is falling off ,  he becomes a liability if he can't do the Dennis Rodman pogo stick act.


Limited minutes energy guy off bench for a contender .......might work with Cavs , where he isn't expected to ever score.

[greece66]

I agree with SHAQATTACK

He should provide us with some rim protection, but he comes with a high price tag attached.
He is 30 yo and has a record of foot injuries.
What's more, his numbers in the last season were his worst since 2009-10. He is a big approaching the twilight of his career:

I put his numbers for the  2012-13, 13-14 and 14-15 regular seasons in this order (most worrying ones in bold):

MPG: 36.8//35.3//30.6
FG%: 48.1//47.5//44.5
FT%: 75.1//73.7//60.3
RPG: 11.1//11.3//9.6
BPG: 2.1//1.5//1.1

[pearljammer10]

I'd love Noah on the C's but none of those packages would get him. He will be up for DPOY award every year (as a top 5 or 10 candidate) despite the fact that he could be slowing again. Chicago isn't giving him up for on first rounder and a filler.

[gpap]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Why not?!!

Noah is one of the toughest centers in the league and would give us much needed toughness, especially down low. I'd give up anything to get him!

[gpap]

Noah will be an expiring contract in this upcoming season right? So saving money would be the goal for Chicago? I could see this, I guess as they have been cheap in the past. But they certainly are not going to want to just save a few mil by downgrading to Wallace.

I've liked Noah in the past and didnt watch him too much this year. I guess if the price was right and there were no better options I'd take him. A draft night deal could be good for us as we would upgrade before free agency. If we traded the TPE and picks we would have:

Noah/Zeller
Sully/Bass?/KO/Jerebko?
Turner/Crowder?
AB/Young
Smart/IT

plus whoever we draft. We might be able to in the Atlantic and get to at least the 2nd round of the playoffs with that team. And we'd still have some assets to make other moves. We could sign any FA that wanted to come here (worse case we have to stretch to spend a pick to trade Wallace) or we can look to cash in on trades. Maybe make an offer for Melo:


Noah/Zeller
Sully/Bass?/KO/Jerebko?
Melo/Crowder?
AB/Turner
Smart/IT

That team looks pretty good and would make a good destination for a top 2016 FA and top 2017 FA with the coming cap increases. Its fun to think about but it all comes down to availability and price.

People need to remember that Thibodeu is a tough coach and perhaps Noah just had one of those seasons where he was snakebitten.

A new team and fresh outlook and could help Noah and go a long way!! 

I'd love to have him and would give up anything to get him. He's a franchise player.

[gpap]

2015-16 Celtics big men

Noah
Aldridge

Zeller
Sullinger
Olynyk

Need Impact SF/SG.

Can you imagine?!

It be the best front court in all the league

[gpap]

There's no way Chicago gives him up for Wallace and a first.  If he did, I'd probably take it in a heart beat. 

Even though I really can't stand Noah, he definitely fills a need and would be a big upgrade for us at center. 

If you can get him that cheap, you really can't say no...though I'd have to cringe every time I watched him.

Why? Noah is EXACTLY what we need. He provides toughness and size which we DESPERATELY need. I'd give up anything to get him.

[gpap]

Turrible

Never could shoot , as his prime athletic game is falling off ,  he becomes a liability if he can't do the Dennis Rodman pogo stick act.


Limited minutes energy guy off bench for a contender .......might work with Cavs , where he isn't expected to ever score.

Disagree on so many counts it's not even funny. Noah is one of the best centers in the league and we happen to have a grand total of ZERO good centers.

Also, enough with all the players in the league going to the Cavs. How about we get some talent for a change?

[Ilikesports17]

There's no way Chicago gives him up for Wallace and a first.  If he did, I'd probably take it in a heart beat. 

Even though I really can't stand Noah, he definitely fills a need and would be a big upgrade for us at center. 

If you can get him that cheap, you really can't say no...though I'd have to cringe every time I watched him.

Why? Noah is EXACTLY what we need. He provides toughness and size which we DESPERATELY need. I'd give up anything to get him.

Anything?

He is an older player who is never healthy any more and is a black hole on offense

[gpap]

I agree with SHAQATTACK

He should provide us with some rim protection, but he comes with a high price tag attached.
He is 30 yo and has a record of foot injuries.
What's more, his numbers in the last season were his worst since 2009-10. He is a big approaching the twilight of his career:

I put his numbers for the  2012-13, 13-14 and 14-15 regular seasons in this order (most worrying ones in bold):

MPG: 36.8//35.3//30.6
FG%: 48.1//47.5//44.5
FT%: 75.1//73.7//60.3
RPG: 11.1//11.3//9.6
BPG: 2.1//1.5//1.1

For a team that desperately needs talent, we are being AWFULLY and ILLOGICALLY critical of players with actual talent that would fill our need for a rim protector.

Plus Noah hates Lebron.

[gpap]

There's no way Chicago gives him up for Wallace and a first.  If he did, I'd probably take it in a heart beat. 

Even though I really can't stand Noah, he definitely fills a need and would be a big upgrade for us at center. 

If you can get him that cheap, you really can't say no...though I'd have to cringe every time I watched him.

Why? Noah is EXACTLY what we need. He provides toughness and size which we DESPERATELY need. I'd give up anything to get him.

Anything?

He is an older player who is never healthy any more and is a black hole on offense

So let me get this straight:

People here don't want Kevin Love because he's allegedly a black hole on defense and now people don't want Noah because he's a black whole on offense.

Sooooo, is there any player in the league NOT on the Celtics that's worthy of acquiring??!!

[Ilikesports17]

There's no way Chicago gives him up for Wallace and a first.  If he did, I'd probably take it in a heart beat. 

Even though I really can't stand Noah, he definitely fills a need and would be a big upgrade for us at center. 

If you can get him that cheap, you really can't say no...though I'd have to cringe every time I watched him.

Why? Noah is EXACTLY what we need. He provides toughness and size which we DESPERATELY need. I'd give up anything to get him.

Anything?

He is an older player who is never healthy any more and is a black hole on offense

So let me get this straight:

People here don't want Kevin Love because he's allegedly a black hole on defense and now people don't want Noah because he's a black whole on offense.

Sooooo, is there any player in the league NOT on the Celtics that's worthy of acquiring??!!

2 points.
1. Yes. You should basically want players who can play at a minimum of an average NBA level on both sides of the floor.
2. I want Noah, however I hope you agree that it is unwise to give up significant assets for a player who will not help you score and is clearly on the downward slope of his career.

Give me a 26 year old Noah and Ill sell the [dang] farm for him.
Give me a 30 year old Noah who has battled injuries this year and is the type who I expect to age really quickly and Ill give you a protected first.

And thats contingent on adding another really nice player (Aldridge?)

Id give up 28 for him in a heartbeat.

[Ilikesports17]

If we could get Joakim Noah and a first for the TE (we would by rule have to throw in a 2)

I would be ecstatic. However, I would look to make sure that we are out of the running for the Aldridges and the Gasols and even the Middletons and Harris's and Monroes of the world before we sacrifice our ability to add them.

FWIW id prefer Robin Lopez via FA.

[Rick Robeys Return]

I love the idea of taking on Noah and his salary in exchange for a first (or some such). But I dont think the Rondo TPE $12.9 mill is big enough to take on Noah's $13.4 mill salary....