I think hed be a nice piece i know someone (perhaps you?) said they preferd him to Aldridge and had some nice stats to back that up.

Im not sure how much he would cost, but that aside, i am hesitant to lock up a player to big money who will be solidly in the downswing of his career by the time we are contenders.

He's 30 years old, and being just 6'8" a loss of athleticism will hurt him more than it will a bigger player.

Im willing to shell out the cash to a guy who is that star player on your team however I dont see Milsapp that way. I think he is a very nice piece but at his age, Id be hesitant to lock him up long term.

I think hed be a nice piece i know someone (perhaps you?) said they preferd him to Aldridge and had some nice stats to back that up.

Im not sure how much he would cost, but that aside, i am hesitant to lock up a player to big money who will be solidly in the downswing of his career by the time we are contenders.

He's 30 years old, and being just 6'8" a loss of athleticism will hurt him more than it will a bigger player.

Im willing to shell out the cash to a guy who is that star player on your team however I dont see Milsapp that way. I think he is a very nice piece but at his age, Id be hesitant to lock him up long term.

I believe you are referring to me with the stats on why Millsap is a better fit than Aldridge on the Celtics.  Millsap is 100% a max player, it just is up to what situation he prefers.  I would love Millsap with Robin Lopez at the 5 as it would give Boston a top 5 defensive team, but I think he will stay in Atlanta.  If he is looking to leave, he would be my top target after Leonard. 

Quote from: mahcus smaht on May 09, 2015, 10:59:22 PM

I think hed be a nice piece i know someone (perhaps you?) said they preferd him to Aldridge and had some nice stats to back that up.

Im not sure how much he would cost, but that aside, i am hesitant to lock up a player to big money who will be solidly in the downswing of his career by the time we are contenders.

He's 30 years old, and being just 6'8" a loss of athleticism will hurt him more than it will a bigger player.

Im willing to shell out the cash to a guy who is that star player on your team however I dont see Milsapp that way. I think he is a very nice piece but at his age, Id be hesitant to lock him up long term.

I believe you are referring to me with the stats on why Millsap is a better fit than Aldridge on the Celtics.  Millsap is 100% a max player, it just is up to what situation he prefers.  I would love Millsap with Robin Lopez at the 5 as it would give Boston a top 5 defensive team, but I think he will stay in Atlanta.  If he is looking to leave, he would be my top target after Leonard.

I believe a max contract for him is 18.9 million per year as opposed to the 15.8 it would be for Harris, Monroe or Middleton

couple that with him being 30 years old already, and I am very cautious to sign him.

However, if we bring back or 1, 2, 3 and maybe move one of KO/Sully to improve draft picks, then signed Robin Lopez that would put us close to the cap with a lineup of

Smart IT4
Bradley Young
Turner Crowder
Milsapp Sullinger
Lopez Zeller

Thats not a bad team at all. Especially if KO + other picks can get you into Stanley Johnson range.

Im intrigued. The question would be do we get that other max piece and do Johnson, Smart Young develop to the level wed need before Milsapp becomes our own personal David Lee

Quote from: mahcus smaht on May 09, 2015, 11:19:21 PM

Quote from: Celts Fan 508 on May 09, 2015, 11:09:04 PM

Quote from: mahcus smaht on May 09, 2015, 10:59:22 PM

I think hed be a nice piece i know someone (perhaps you?) said they preferd him to Aldridge and had some nice stats to back that up.

Im not sure how much he would cost, but that aside, i am hesitant to lock up a player to big money who will be solidly in the downswing of his career by the time we are contenders.

He's 30 years old, and being just 6'8" a loss of athleticism will hurt him more than it will a bigger player.

Im willing to shell out the cash to a guy who is that star player on your team however I dont see Milsapp that way. I think he is a very nice piece but at his age, Id be hesitant to lock him up long term.

I believe you are referring to me with the stats on why Millsap is a better fit than Aldridge on the Celtics.  Millsap is 100% a max player, it just is up to what situation he prefers.  I would love Millsap with Robin Lopez at the 5 as it would give Boston a top 5 defensive team, but I think he will stay in Atlanta.  If he is looking to leave, he would be my top target after Leonard.

I believe a max contract for him is 18.9 million per year as opposed to the 15.8 it would be for Harris, Monroe or Middleton

couple that with him being 30 years old already, and I am very cautious to sign him.

However, if we bring back or 1, 2, 3 and maybe move one of KO/Sully to improve draft picks, then signed Robin Lopez that would put us close to the cap with a lineup of

Smart IT4
Bradley Young
Turner Crowder
Milsapp Sullinger
Lopez Zeller

Thats not a bad team at all. Especially if KO + other picks can get you into Stanley Johnson range.

Im intrigued. The question would be do we get that other max piece and do Johnson, Smart Young develop to the level wed need before Milsapp becomes our own personal David Lee

Yes, I have been advocating signing Robin Lopez and Millsap for a while now.  Millsap fits the Celtics better as he is a better defender, passer, and has more range and speed, he will not become a David Lee.  Look at your lineup above and add our draft picks and we win the Atlantic next season.

Agreed. Adding Robin Lopez and Millsap would do wonders for our team next year!!

Quote from: gpap on May 09, 2015, 11:30:11 PM

Quote from: Celts Fan 508 on May 09, 2015, 11:26:54 PM

Quote from: mahcus smaht on May 09, 2015, 11:19:21 PM

Quote from: Celts Fan 508 on May 09, 2015, 11:09:04 PM

Quote from: mahcus smaht on May 09, 2015, 10:59:22 PM

I think hed be a nice piece i know someone (perhaps you?) said they preferd him to Aldridge and had some nice stats to back that up.

Im not sure how much he would cost, but that aside, i am hesitant to lock up a player to big money who will be solidly in the downswing of his career by the time we are contenders.

He's 30 years old, and being just 6'8" a loss of athleticism will hurt him more than it will a bigger player.

Im willing to shell out the cash to a guy who is that star player on your team however I dont see Milsapp that way. I think he is a very nice piece but at his age, Id be hesitant to lock him up long term.

I believe you are referring to me with the stats on why Millsap is a better fit than Aldridge on the Celtics.  Millsap is 100% a max player, it just is up to what situation he prefers.  I would love Millsap with Robin Lopez at the 5 as it would give Boston a top 5 defensive team, but I think he will stay in Atlanta.  If he is looking to leave, he would be my top target after Leonard.

I believe a max contract for him is 18.9 million per year as opposed to the 15.8 it would be for Harris, Monroe or Middleton

couple that with him being 30 years old already, and I am very cautious to sign him.

However, if we bring back or 1, 2, 3 and maybe move one of KO/Sully to improve draft picks, then signed Robin Lopez that would put us close to the cap with a lineup of

Smart IT4
Bradley Young
Turner Crowder
Milsapp Sullinger
Lopez Zeller

Thats not a bad team at all. Especially if KO + other picks can get you into Stanley Johnson range.

Im intrigued. The question would be do we get that other max piece and do Johnson, Smart Young develop to the level wed need before Milsapp becomes our own personal David Lee

Yes, I have been advocating signing Robin Lopez and Millsap for a while now.  Millsap fits the Celtics better as he is a better defender, passer, and has more range and speed, he will not become a David Lee.  Look at your lineup above and add our draft picks and we win the Atlantic next season.

Agreed. Adding Robin Lopez and Millsap would do wonders for our team next year!!

Might take an overpay but that guy has gone through alot in his career and deserves to finally get paid. 47th overall pick to 2 time all star, Millsap worked his way to where he is. Bet he ages better than most 6'8 players due to his grit and intangibles, reminds me of the David West near acquisition.

Im torn here. Milsapp is not going to come cheap, he is not a superstar, and he is 30 years old. What he brings to the table, I love, but Im not sure if I like that plan as a whole. I also fear a Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, David Lee situation.

However
Smart IT4
Bradley Young
Johnson Crowder
Milsapp Sullinger
Lopez Zeller

looks pretty nice in two years if Milsap doesnt see a decline.

Millsap would be a great fit with this Celtics group, but it's a shame he's already 30. I would definitely take him if he wanted to play with us, though. He is definitely worth the max and I believe he will age well as his game is very cerebral, rather than athletically-based (Paul Pierce is the ultimate example of this).

He has never received the credit he deserves and I am glad his next contract will reflect the level of success he has had as an individual and team player.

Another VERY intriguing free agent that's getting lost in the shuffle this summer among the other big names (Gasol, Aldridge, Love, etc) is Paul Millsap.

Another player which would be a HUGE upgrade at the PF, Millsap would be another great player to go after.

I know the Hawks will probably try to resign him, but what if we made him a max offer?

I wonder if we could outbid the Hawks then and get him to come to Boston.

He'd a be a great piece in improving for next season and getting back to the playoffs.

I do like Milsap, and wouldn't object to getting if other key free agents aren't available, but is he really a 'HUGE' upgrade at PF?  I don't think so.

I see Millsap as basically Brandon Bass with three point range and passing skills.  Bass is a pretty solid defensive PF and like Millsap he has the versatility of being able to defend mulitple positions.  Like Bass though, Millsap is only about 6'7" and is hugely undersized for the PF spot.  Like Bass he's not a shot blocker or rim protector.  Like bass he's not an Elite rebounder (though he is a good one).     

Millsap is basically the love-child of Brandon Bass and Jared Sullinger. 

There's no question that he's a tangible upgrade at PF, but I don't think he's a huge one.  If the choice was there I'd still take Aldridge, Gasol, Monroe, Jordan, Hibbert or Noel over Millsap.

As skilled as he is, I'm getting tired of watching our undersized front court get beat down by larger opposition...and I think Bass (due to his physique and ridiculous length) actually fares better against physically dominant bigs then Millsap would.

Not really the guy I'm looking for, but again if we did get him I wouldn't complain...long as we could trade out either Sully/Bass/Olynyk and bring back a guy who fills a need (because Millsap IMHO doesn't).

I'm honestly still a little iffy on giving him max contract money, because IMHO max contracts should be exclusively for game-changing players, and I don't feel he's one of those.  I don't feel adding a Millsap suddenly makes this team significantly scarier to opponents.