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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2015, 01:24:42 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2015, 01:45:39 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.
There is a very good chance that the Knicks won't end up with the 1st overall pick.  As for the players listed, it is very unlikely that any of the players listed would be traded.   

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2015, 02:05:46 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.
There is a very good chance that the Knicks won't end up with the 1st overall pick.  As for the players listed, it is very unlikely that any of the players listed would be traded.   

Exactly. There is not much incentive at all for the Spurs, Bulls, or Grizzlies to trade proven young all-star players for the #1 pick, assuming that the Knicks even get the #1 or 2 pick.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2015, 02:18:14 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.
There is a very good chance that the Knicks won't end up with the 1st overall pick.  As for the players listed, it is very unlikely that any of the players listed would be traded.   

Exactly. There is not much incentive at all for the Spurs, Bulls, or Grizzlies to trade proven young all-star players for the #1 pick, assuming that the Knicks even get the #1 or 2 pick.

I would see the Bulls do that in a heart beat.  They need a replacement for Rose as the guy they are building around and I do not think Butler is that.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2015, 02:24:17 PM »

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I would see the Bulls do that in a heart beat.  They need a replacement for Rose as the guy they are building around and I do not think Butler is that.



This is the notoriously cheap Bulls we're talking about.

So yes, they could dump Jimmy B for a top pick instead of paying him.


On the other hand, if they keep Jimmy B, they are assured of at least a few more years of pseudo-contention with Rose, Butler, Mirotic, Gasol, and Noah.  They can keep fans interested with that core by offering the hope that the team might actually stay healthy for a whole year and make a deep run.

With Gasol looking so good playing as a center, I'd be less surprised to see the Bulls trade Noah and Gibson for some depth, instead.
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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2015, 02:31:22 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.
There is a very good chance that the Knicks won't end up with the 1st overall pick.  As for the players listed, it is very unlikely that any of the players listed would be traded.   

Exactly. There is not much incentive at all for the Spurs, Bulls, or Grizzlies to trade proven young all-star players for the #1 pick, assuming that the Knicks even get the #1 or 2 pick.

I would see the Bulls do that in a heart beat.  They need a replacement for Rose as the guy they are building around and I do not think Butler is that.

Except they don't need a replacement for Rose. He is already back this week and looking very good, his last injury was totally blown out of proportion. They also let Deng move on because they knew Butler was ready, they are not going to ditch him for a lottery pick that could easily end up being the next Sam Bowie, Kwame Brown, or Greg Oden when they know what Butler is as an NBA player. They also already have a great young big man prospect on a cheap deal in Mirotic.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2015, 05:12:38 PM »

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Knicks can very easily sign Monroe, and trade the 1st overall pick to either Memphis, Portland, San Antonioni etc, for whomever they want.

Gasol
Aldridge
Khawi
Jimmy butler etc.

If the Knicks mess up this offseason, they will probably be done for a long time.
There is a very good chance that the Knicks won't end up with the 1st overall pick.  As for the players listed, it is very unlikely that any of the players listed would be traded.   

Exactly. There is not much incentive at all for the Spurs, Bulls, or Grizzlies to trade proven young all-star players for the #1 pick, assuming that the Knicks even get the #1 or 2 pick.

I would see the Bulls do that in a heart beat.  They need a replacement for Rose as the guy they are building around and I do not think Butler is that.

Except they don't need a replacement for Rose. He is already back this week and looking very good, his last injury was totally blown out of proportion. They also let Deng move on because they knew Butler was ready, they are not going to ditch him for a lottery pick that could easily end up being the next Sam Bowie, Kwame Brown, or Greg Oden when they know what Butler is as an NBA player. They also already have a great young big man prospect on a cheap deal in Mirotic.

You think for a second that they have any faith in Rose? 

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2015, 10:24:30 AM »

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Just saw Monroe go out of his way to squash this 'report' from the gossip-mongering NY tabloids.

Here's the typical Knicks season.

Spring: Feed the New York tabloids all these bogus stories about how every player wants to play for the Knicks and how the Knicks will be front and center on every possible game-changing free agent signing and/or trade
Summer: Hire a sexy front office name and/or trade for overpriced, overrated veteran(s) instead
Fall: Sell that upon your fan base and set great expectations for the coming season
Winter: Predictably fall well short of such vast expectations and peddle phony 'outrage' over the disappointment

Repeat.
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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2015, 10:26:52 AM »

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Monroe is absolutely not a max contract player, but he almost certainly will be paid like one. Hope its the Knicks, not us, that overpay for him.

Exactly.  If they're willing to give him a max contract, they can have him.

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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2015, 11:29:26 AM »

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I'm confused as to why people don't think a 24 year old PF/C averaging over 16 points, over 10 rebounds, with a couple of assists, who doesn't turn the ball over, who doesn't commit fouls, who shoots a respectable 75% from the line, who doesn't get really hurt or miss games, and most importantly has gotten better pretty much every single year isn't worth a max contract.
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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2015, 11:43:09 AM »

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I'm confused as to why people don't think a 24 year old PF/C averaging over 16 points, over 10 rebounds, with a couple of assists, who doesn't turn the ball over, who doesn't commit fouls, who shoots a respectable 75% from the line, who doesn't get really hurt or miss games, and most importantly has gotten better pretty much every single year isn't worth a max contract.

I don't think people are arguin that he's not worth a max contract in today's NBA, he certainly is. The argument is that if you want to build a legit contender is he one of your top three guys that you would prefer to sign , and IMO that answer is clearly no.

For example, was Carlos Boozer worth a max deal in his prime? Sure, but would he ever be a top 3 guy on a championship team? Heck no. I have serious doubts if Love is even a top three guy we would want to build around.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2015, 11:56:37 AM »

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So just whom do you think Celts could get at center that's better than Monroe? No pipe dreams. Real attainable options.

Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2015, 12:16:45 PM »

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Where to start....

First off Monroe is worth a max deal THIS summer. Getting him locked up at the current max at age 24 before the salaries jump up will be a solid move for whom ever signs him.

Second, the NY media is very obnoxious. They are all scratching for any news and there is so much BS. Living in western mass I get stuck with a NY based ESPN affiliate that has two of the least knowledgeable hosts ever afternoon. The minute they talk Knicks I change the station. They view their team as this meca that ever NBA star wants to go to. The worst part is the FA who do go to NY are usually going for the wrong reasons. Its usually media exposure and increasing their brand firrst, winning bball games second.

Third, If monroe does go to NYK he will be a great fit for the system and a terrbile fit next to Melo. Both are below average defenders who need to be protected by their teammates/ schemes to be effective. With Monroe at his natural center position the PF must offer rim protection  and the SF needs to be a + defender. Melo is best suited at the PF where he is a size liability and at SF he is a perimeter liability both bad things for Monroe.

Fourth, living near NYK media and having NYK fans in my area I find their situation very interesting. If I was phil jackson my plan A would have been built around getting rid of Carmelo and starting over with a clean slate. Instead he is trying to build a contender around a flawed Star, early 1st round pick and cap space. This will make for a very interesting summer for the knicks.
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Re: Greg Monroe to the Knicks?
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2015, 12:16:47 PM »

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Every year everyone is rumored to want to go to NYC, every year it does not happen.   Their reporters are notorious for stirring the pot.

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2015, 12:18:46 PM »

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Every year everyone is rumored to want to go to NYC, every year it does not happen.   Their reporters are notorious for stirring the pot.

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