Still love his contributions until he got hurt . He almost got us past the Miami heat in 2012 with a gimpy PP and Ray .

Definitely not worth the max , but he can still be a starter on the right contender IMO

Here's my argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

Rajon Rondo is the past. Time to let it go.

Still love his contributions until he got hurt . He almost got us past the Miami heat in 2012 with a gimpy PP and Ray .

Definitely not worth the max , but he can still be a starter on the right contender IMO

IMO he is now in a situation where he has to prove just that.
The fact that he was there already a couple of years ago and now has to do it again makes it all the more harder for him psychologically.
Injury apart, the other elephant in the room is the increased emphasis on shooting 3s in the NBA the last few years and the addition of many more elite PGs.
Just considering the East: Reggie Jackson (24yo), Jeff Teague (26yo),MCW (23yo) and Elfrid Payton (21yo).

Speaking more generally of PGs, I am totally against the ideat that each NBA player has an objective price tag attached to him: the value of a player to a given team is very hard to determine and depends on far too many variables.

But if there is a trend, it is that the value of PGs is going down.
Consider that in the case of both Rondo and MCW their franchises traded them for less than the media anticipated, and also the ease with which IT4 was first traded from the Kings to the Suns (a 7 mill trade exception and nr 57 of the draft...) and then from the Suns to the C's.
The same trend holds true of the draft: Mudiay is likely to stay out of the top-5 and it is debatable whether another PG will be included in the top-15/20.

Rondo was great as long as he had the big three protect him.  Since he's been hurt he been above average.  Since the big 3 left he's been average.  I'm glad we got something for him.  Good luck in LA next year Rondo.

Really not fair to say at all. Rondo actually played really well for us this season, and our offense was ranked much higher than it is right now. Our schedule was much more difficult from November-mid December. No one here will remember November 2014 a year or two from now because of the subpar record, but Rondo had that offense running like a well oiled machine. It was the defense that killed them early in the season. The defense has improved 10 fold over the last 2-3 months. He was essentially perfect for Stevens' offense, but Ainge just didn't feel comfortable paying him the max I guess.

The hindsight on Rondo, especially this season's Rondo with us, really isn't fair, imo. That schedule was brutal, and the Celtics played way above expectations offensively. Honestly, the offense was pretty beautiful to watch in November. It was unfortunate they gave up so many 4th quarter leads. There were at least 4-5 double digit leads they gave up in that month.

Yup

2012-13

Boston with Rondo - 20-23 (46%)
Boston without Rondo - 21-17 (55%)

2013-14

Boston with Rondo - 6-24  (20%)
Boston without Rondo - 19-33 (36%)

2014-15

Boston with Rondo - 8-14 (36%)
Boston without Rondo - 29-28 (51%)

Dallas with Rondo - 24-19 (56%)
Dallas without Rondo - 24-12 (66%)

Is that enough of a sample size?

Where Tim at?



But seriously... I really liked Rondo.  He can be very effective with the right system and teammates.  I'll miss him.  I am not going to miss arguing about whether or not he was a "superstar".  He wasn't.

Dallas had a joke of a schedule before the Rondo trade. However, Dallas is doing much better against top competition with Rondo than they were before. I think their record against playoff teams in the West is now 8-10 as opposed to around 2-8 without him. We also can't disregard pre injury Rondo, and the fact that age finally caught up to the big 3 in 2012-2013 season.

Quote from: MJohnnyboy on April 10, 2015, 11:47:19 PM

Here's my argument:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

Rajon Rondo is the past. Time to let it go.

seconded. and why is a thread on another team's player in celtics talk? mods please move it.

Thirded.

If GreenFaith1819 (aka BBallTim Junior) can let Rondo go, why can't we

I haven't commented on Rondo in about 2 weeks now