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We might be set at the 1, 2 and 3
« on: April 02, 2015, 11:58:21 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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Smart, Bradley and Turner have all received some criticism throughout the season from the fans, but I'm realy starting to become sold on running it back next year. Turner needs the ball to be most effective. Having him be a point 3 lets Smart ease into his role as starting pg. IT is pretty dame good too, Crowder is getting better and Pressy is good for a 3rd stringer.

Obviously you take star talent if you can get it, but I'm starting to think that a good center is a much much bigger need for next year then a 3.

 

Re: We might be set at the 1, 2 and 3
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 12:17:15 PM »

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I don't agree that Turner is the solution moving forward. He's been better than expected this year and he fits in offensively, but his flaws are too serious for him to be a starter on a really good team imo. If he could learn to tame his turnovers, then perhaps his defense would be palatable in the starting lineup, but I'm pretty skeptical.

At the 1 and the 2 we might indeed be set. We have a solid 3-guard rotation, and Pressey and Young are fine options for the end of the bench.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 12:23:05 PM »

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we need improvements everywhere.  we're not set at any position, at least in terms of a quality starter.  if you're talking bench players, then yeah, we're pretty well set

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 12:24:28 PM »

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Turner is playing at roughly the same level of his entire career for Boston. So no he's not a solution for the C's long term.

He needs the ball to be effective, but he's not very effective even with it. Scores at a poor to terrible efficiency, doesn't get to the rim or foul line a ton, and isn't a game changing playmaker.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2015, 12:25:14 PM »

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we need improvements everywhere.  we're not set at any position, at least in terms of a quality starter.  if you're talking bench players, then yeah, we're pretty well set
Yup whether those improvements are internal (Smart/Kelly/Young developing) or from new talent.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2015, 01:18:05 PM »

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I don't think Turner is the guy you want starting the next five years, but I think that a SF with point forward skills is a better fit than a pure scorer for the sort of team Brad Stevens wants.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2015, 01:22:37 PM »

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Smart, Bradley and Turner have all received some criticism throughout the season from the fans, but I'm realy starting to become sold on running it back next year. Turner needs the ball to be most effective. Having him be a point 3 lets Smart ease into his role as starting pg. IT is pretty dame good too, Crowder is getting better and Pressy is good for a 3rd stringer.

Obviously you take star talent if you can get it, but I'm starting to think that a good center is a much much bigger need for next year then a 3.
Obvious spots to improve in the short run are the PG and the PF position. PF being more obvious than the PG, since Smart may still improve. I guess we're looking for a good two-way starting PF (who isn't...).
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2015, 01:28:59 PM »

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I don't think the Celtics are anywhere close to set at the 3.  No one on this roster is the long-term solution at starting SF, IMO.  I can live with Crowder being a backup, though.


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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2015, 02:40:12 PM »

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I don't agree that Turner is the solution moving forward. He's been better than expected this year and he fits in offensively, but his flaws are too serious for him to be a starter on a really good team imo. If he could learn to tame his turnovers, then perhaps his defense would be palatable in the starting lineup, but I'm pretty skeptical.

At the 1 and the 2 we might indeed be set. We have a solid 3-guard rotation, and Pressey and Young are fine options for the end of the bench.
I don't even think we know for sure that Smart or Avery are the answers at 1 and 2.

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2015, 02:47:23 PM »

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I think our biggest needs are at the 3 and the 5. I am hoping the by next year Smart will be able to run the point by himself. Currently he is paired with Turner in the lineup because Smart isn't ready to play the point full time. I hope he is ready by next year so that we can add a good 3 point shooter to further space the floor.

An upgrade at the 5 would be nice, but those are difficult to get and we might get one organically if Zeller or Olynyk improve.

I also think we see a move to add a 3 point shooting 4 in the offseason, to play in a way that is more similar to Atlanta and the Spurs.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2015, 03:10:08 PM »

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We are a bad outside shooting team. Crowder and Turner are solid players, but neither can shoot the 3 at the level we really need if we're going to succeed playing this style.

I think Smart can be the shooter we need. Bradley is good enough but not elite. In theory, these two are going to make up for the difference between good and great by playing great defense, so I guess we very well might be set at the 1 and the 2 for a few years.

Zeller and Olynyk are also nice players, but to have an elite team you need at least a few *great* players. Neither one of them is ever going to be one of those.


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We are NOT set at the 3. Could you imagine this team with a 24 year old Paul Pierce....omg. Its sad not having Paul Pierce, in top form, on this team. He would have been great with Stevens and Stevens would have loved him so much.

We need a Paul Pierce type on this team, not a Jae crowder.


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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 03:15:10 PM »

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I should have been more clear in the OP. I mean I think we might be set for next year. Turner at the 3 gives Smart another year to ease into being a full time pg. PGs take a while, look at Billups. Look at Rondo, in his 3rd and 4th years he was better at running the show than his first 2.

We are winning games now. Imagine if we had a Cousins or Love or Monroe even. Get a 5 this summer and a 3 next.

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 03:16:57 PM »

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this group we have now would be a killer bench. we are all set as far as our bench, our coach, and i think Avery Bradley at the 2. I like his game as a 4th option in the starting line-up next to a big point guard.  He is a very good shooter defender (at best when guarding pgs). He just can't dribble or finish at the rim.... but you could stick him in the corners to spread the floor and hes been outstanding at using screens to get open.

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 04:19:51 PM »

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As has been said by others, we have guys who would be valuable rotation players at the 3 but not championship caliber players, especially considering we have no stars.

Now that I've been able to see the NCAA tourney, my dream scenario is for Ainge to trade whatever number of draft choices/expendable resources he has to to get the 4th and 8th picks (or better) this year, and grab Justise Winslow and Willie Cauley-Stein.

We would have one of the best young defensive cores the league has ever seen. If we approached free agency with that group, we could probably convince an elite power forward to jump on the bandwagon.