Pistons (25-44) at Celtics (30-38) Game #69 3/22/15

[greece66]

Which team do you think has more young talent, Orland or Detroit?

Orlando by far, imo.

Personally I'd go for Detroit.
I like their frontcourt a lot, and Jackson is a solid PG.

I'm not sold on Jackson. I think he can be good, but his attitude and shot-chucking worries me a bit. Here's my breakdown.

Now that I think about it, they might be closer than I thought.
Det: Jackson, KCP, Monroe, and Drummond is pretty close to
Orl: EP, Oladipo, Harris, and Vucevic.

I can't get into the subtleties of the contracts (eg Monroe's is expiring) because this would require a 20-30 min research lol
but if we are just talking about the teams in terms of the talent of individual players I think they are pretty close, with Detroit IMO having an edge due to better D in the paint (I dislike Vucevic's D). My fav players in Orlando are Oladipo and Dedmon.
They will both be exciting teams to watch in the coming years. The Eastern Conference is quietly getting better.

[Chief]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Shak, what player are you talking about? Bass, JJ, or Zeller?

Seriously, I got no clue.

[celtics2030]

TO KO, when your shooting is low %, go inside hard..!!! rebound, do everything else harder and your shot will come back..

So, everything else? Like 9rbs, 5 assists, and 2 blocks?


Like I said, KO is shooting terribly, no doubt. I don't really care about talking about KO's poor games, I just find it funny that people are quick to call him out when he does poorly but go quiet on other bigs!

Facts.

[Rosco917]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Not hating anyone. I wish KO would straighten himself out. But being scared to miss or maybe get your shot blocked, will not help him get out of this funk. He needs to have much more confidence at this level, sorry.

[jpotter33]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

[greece66]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Shak, what player are you talking about? Bass, JJ, or Zeller?

Seriously, I got no clue.

My feeling is he means the one who had 4/10, 4 rebs and -18 at +/- in 20 mins   

[Rosco917]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

This^^^

[hwangjini_1]

TO KO, when your shooting is low %, go inside hard..!!! rebound, do everything else harder and your shot will come back..

So, everything else? Like 9rbs, 5 assists, and 2 blocks?


Like I said, KO is shooting terribly, no doubt. I don't really care about talking about KO's poor games, I just find it funny that people are quick to call him out when he does poorly but go quiet on other bigs!

Facts.

that sound suspiciously like stats. hmmm...should i dismiss them? 

[Chief]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Shak, what player are you talking about? Bass, JJ, or Zeller?

Seriously, I got no clue.

My feeling is he means the one who had 4/10, 4 rebs and -18 at +/- in 20 mins   

Yeah, Drummond is too much on defense for any of our bigs inside. We needed KO or JJ to hit the long ball tonight and they could not. I think KO is just playing poorly. But if he can find his shot, maybe just maybe, the Celtics can make the playoffs and do some damage.

I think that is why Stevens is forcing him out there.

[SHAQATTACK]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

I agree ,  Zeller plays 110 percent , his effort and trying is not lacking....... KO  has far more potential , he is not wired to enter a fray under the rim . He is   Soft. Period ....like Green no stomach to bang .   Zeller does what he can given his talent s   ......no complaints from me

[hwangjini_1]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

I agree ,  Zeller plays 110 percent , his effort and trying is not lacking....... KO  has far more potential , he is not wired to enter a fray under the rim . He is   Soft. Period ....like Green no stomach to bang .   Zeller does what he can given his talent s   ......no complaints from me

i find this to be an oddly disturbing phrase. 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

I agree ,  Zeller plays 110 percent , his effort and trying is not lacking....... KO  has far more potential , he is not wired to enter a fray under the rim . He is   Soft. Period ....like Green no stomach to bang .   Zeller does what he can given his talent s   ......no complaints from me

LOL just bc KO is hesitant as a shooter (believe me, I cuss him plenty for it), does not mean he isn't giving max effort. I have never once heard anyone question his effort out there but people who just don't like him. Not playing well and giving effort don't always go hand and hand!

[SHAQATTACK]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

I agree ,  Zeller plays 110 percent , his effort and trying is not lacking....... KO  has far more potential , he is not wired to enter a fray under the rim . He is   Soft. Period ....like Green no stomach to bang .   Zeller does what he can given his talent s   ......no complaints from me

i find this to be an oddly disturbing phrase. 

Your a sick puppy

[Rondo9]

I know one thing for sure, there was a big on the floor who did actually look terrible out there but once again, he will go unmentioned bc you guys like him. Seriously, gets a lot of pass all the time and that's my beef. Not that KO is playing well or not to talk about him playing poorly, I would just like people to start calling out others or it's beginning to look like you just don't like KO, sounding like a hater.

Haha I just looked and KO was actually a +13 on the floor tonight. the next closest was Gigi with a +6 somehow. Didn't expect to see that.

I think the reason people are so hard on KO more than say Zeller and others is due to his potential. We've pretty much seen Zeller's potential when he's played this year. But KO has so much potential and skill that it's mind-numbing to see him out there passing up shots and playing soft (<-- another reason why I think he gets criticized so heavily).

Personally I think people don't like him because he's not Giannis.

[kozlodoev]

Hey Brad, how's that 11 man rotation working for you?