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Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2015, 03:38:25 PM »

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not a championship caliber team so what is the point.

Many would have said the same thing about the Hawks or Warriors at the beginning of the season.

I still wouldn't call the Hawks a championship caliber team.
The Warriors are closer with that record in the West. The Hawks would be 3rd or 4th in the West, kinda like last years Blazers fake run but on another level.

The advantage they have going for them is that their uptempo style shouldn't get too slowed down come playoff time unless they meet the Grizzlies or Spurs. It will certainly be harder for them in 7 games vs anyone from the West if they do make the finals.
In fact the one team they match up with well on both ends are the Warriors lol.

I'm still taking the Grizzlies, Spurs and possibly Thunder over the Warriors until I see them pull a series out vs Spurs or Memphis at full strength.

i tend to agree, especially about the hawks. i think their style won't hold up in the playoffs, and they will have match-up problems in the half court against other good teams. IMO the wiz, cavs, and bulls all have more upside this year.

the warriors are certainly much better, as they have a legit star in curry, and a true defensive anchor, though injury-prone, in bogut.
i could see their offense slowing down come playoff time though. they rely very heavily on 3s, and in the big pressure moments in the playoffs those shots often stop falling.
curry is really the only truly dynamic offensive scorer on the team (though thompson has certainly improved in that regard). and i've seen curry choke quite a few times already in his young playoff career, so that is worrying.
but if they can get some inside offense going with bogut, green, and lee, that could help greatly, and take pressure off their outside scorers, letting them play inside-out, much like the spurs last year.

thankfully for the warriors, their opposition is also flawed. the spurs have been shockingly good for their age the last few years, but that's got to catch up with them at some point.
 
memphis is elite on defense, but their most versatile offensive player is jeff green. they can be beaten, as they struggle to score late in games.

OKC is one of the great enigmas in this league, they still just haven't put together that great playoff run, and they've played poorly this year. it's odd because they have two of the best players in the league, and have solid depth after that. sometimes they look like the best team in the league, other times they look soft. their lack of an interior game is their biggest weakness.

so overall i think it's a 4-team race in the west, i don't know that i have a particular favorite at this point. the warriors are probably the least flawed of the 4 teams, but they also are the least experienced, and are a bogut injury away from being irrelevant.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2015, 04:42:46 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2015, 05:03:45 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2015, 05:07:52 PM »

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not a championship caliber team so what is the point.

Many would have said the same thing about the Hawks or Warriors at the beginning of the season.
and they would have been wrong.  The Hawks have 3 legit championship level players and the Warriors have 6.  You know guys that would start on pretty much every championship level team.  The Sixers would not have had that.  They would have had AI and maybe Vucevic and Holiday fitting that category (and Holiday is a real stretch and Vucevic may be as well).  That team is no where near a championship level team.
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Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2015, 05:57:14 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to. 

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2015, 06:31:14 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2015, 08:24:13 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade). 

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2015, 08:35:08 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade).

I'd say Sullinger and Smart have star potential. The Sixers stars right now are either hurt or is overseas. I'd give the Celtics a better chance of winning a championship in the future than the Sixers.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2015, 09:09:07 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade).

I'd say Sullinger and Smart have star potential. The Sixers stars right now are either hurt or is overseas. I'd give the Celtics a better chance of winning a championship in the future than the Sixers.
i'm not sold either has star potential but I think they should both develop enough to be solid starters

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2015, 09:37:33 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade).

I'd say Sullinger and Smart have star potential. The Sixers stars right now are either hurt or is overseas. I'd give the Celtics a better chance of winning a championship in the future than the Sixers.
I don't see either being a star but I'll leave the door open a crack for Smart.  Obviously Embiid needs to come back strong from his injuries but Noel already has.  I'd consider Saric developing overseas while the Sixers tank a couple seasons as a plus.  Chances are neither team wins a championship anytime soon but I'd give the Sixers the edge to compete for it sooner.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2015, 11:26:53 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade).

I'd say Sullinger and Smart have star potential. The Sixers stars right now are either hurt or is overseas. I'd give the Celtics a better chance of winning a championship in the future than the Sixers.

I mean with the exception of Smart what potential "stars" do you have that aren't hurt?

And if you really want to talk about current players Noel's probably been one of the top 2-3 rookies this year along with Wiggins and Nurkic. Definitely the best defensive rookie this year.

Re: What if the 76ers didn't go for Bynum and end up tanking?
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2015, 02:27:24 PM »

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They are going to be interesting next year

PG: Mudiay or Russell basically guaranteed
SG: ???
SF: Saric, Jason Richardson, AK47
PF: Noel
C: Embiid

That's going to be a League Pass team for sure

They cut AK47 recently (and I'm not sure he will play in NBA again), I believe Jason Richardson is a free agent after this season and probably would not want to resign there at 34 for a rebuilding season if he can still play. I don't believe Saric is coming over next year from what I have read, perhaps 2016-17? Noel, Embiid a rookie and castoffs doesn't sound like very exciting basketball to me. A team like the T-wolves seems like a much more fun team.
I agree about Minny but I'd prefer it if they got rid of Pek.  It'll be interesting to see who they get in the draft.  I think that young Sixers team would be quite fun to watch develop.  If Embiid and Noel can coexist together, their interior defense is going to be stifling.  It looks like they'll get one (Miami) and possibly two (OKC) mid 1st picks to add more talent (e.g. Booker, Anderson, Levert).  Then like you said Saric can come over the following year.  I wish we had that to look forward to.

I think smart, sullinger, ko, thomas, upcoming lottery picks, and the brooklyn picks are pretty exciting. I also have more faith in Ainge to turn assets into current players than I do hinkie.
I see no star potential on our roster.  I'm very high on Embiid and Saric has potential.  Noel is very raw but he looks significantly improved from early in the season.  Unless we get lucky with the Brooklyn picks, I like the Sixers picks better.  Ainge is very good about collecting assets but stars don't become available very often and when they do it doesn't always payoff (e.g.  Howard/Bynum trade).

I'd say Sullinger and Smart have star potential. The Sixers stars right now are either hurt or is overseas. I'd give the Celtics a better chance of winning a championship in the future than the Sixers.

I mean with the exception of Smart what potential "stars" do you have that aren't hurt?

And if you really want to talk about current players Noel's probably been one of the top 2-3 rookies this year along with Wiggins and Nurkic. Definitely the best defensive rookie this year.

Kind of helps that 5 of the top 7 picks have either missed serious time or are already out for the year....