Agreed.

The Jury still out on both players.

Yes, Sully looks like a keeper at times, but not sure he can peak past say....Carlos Boozer.  And depending who you ask that is good or disappointing.

As for Kelly; his foul issues are becoming a problem.   I mean, how many times do you need to be called for the same thing before recognizing that you need to change what you are doing.....

Every game KO will be called for a stupid foul - not on his man - and far away from the basket.  And before the 9mins mark in the 2Q he will have 2 fouls if not 3.  GUARANTEED!

He is frustrating me - and I am a KO fan - and so I am sure BS is so annoyed.  I am telling you, if Zeller was playing as hot as he was a few weeks ago, KO wouldn't be sniffing as much playing time as he is now. 

An observation.

I know Sully has been in the league for a year longer, but he's become more aggressive in the paint and has developed a better outside game (knocking down the 3 more often.)

Sully also has a better feel for the game. To me, his only disadvantage is he gets outplayed by more athletic power forwards in the league

Olynyk, on the other hand, looks lost. Not very aggressive, doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball, doesn't really play defense and doesn't have a consistent outside shot.

Doesn't really seem to know what he's doing.

If we are going by trade value, I'd say Sully has a lot more of it than Olynyk has right now.

And that extra year had nothing to do with it?

Yes KO looks lost and isn't aggressive all the time, so parts is because he reverts back to his PG days when he gets to the paint.

As of progression, Sully was more NBA ready than KO. In the first half of last season KO was completely lost, then in the second half of the season started to play well. Then in Summer league he didn't look like he got better, but then the first couple of months played pretty well. He's been up and down since. He gets to the paint better on the drive and shoots better from the out side and even added that step back. He needs to be quicker with his move in the post, thats his biggest issue.

Sully has gotten better, but hasn't had the jump like KO has. Sully is better, but with always playing the big roll, the extra year, and the first year having KG as a mentor puts him ahead, but it's not heads and shoulders. Remeber Sully gets in these funks, and plays like crap and then his daddy has to come to town to straighten him out. 

Sullinger has always had more upside than KO

When K.O. plays angry (seen it a few times)...He's the better player...he just seems happy to be here way too often...Shame, imagine if he had a Larry Bird attitude.

When K.O. plays angry (seen it a few times)...He's the better player...he just seems happy to be here way too often...Shame, imagine if he had a Larry Bird attitude.

+1.

I want next season for sully to lose 10 pounds and KO to add 5-7 pounds of strength.

We will see which player is better.

Takes 5 years for a big to develop. It's way too early to make this type of assessment unless the difference between the two players is a lot more obvious than it is. FWIW, I see more upside in KO, but doesn't mean it will get realized.