Where would you go with the rebuild from here?

[CelticSooner]

Trade up in the draft for a top 3 pick. Okafor or Towns being the two best options of need.

[Asher77]

I think we need a big but these players often take the longest to develop and have the highest bust potential.

If our goal is to get the team competitive and attract a max FA or two then we may be better to let the other teams draft the big guys early next year and we get the safe athletic wing players who can play defense and finish on the break.

Zeller/KO/Sully will continue to improve and we can search out trades, get a C as a 2016 max FA, or  move into the high lottery in the 2016 draft to get a big.

I am impatient to see a true dominant big in green but it may be best to fill in the roster first.

[chambers]

I think there is only one option and it's clear as day-

We need to get the best draft pick possible and get the player with the best chance at becoming a franchise player. Then build around that pick and Marcus Smart and Jared Sullinger.

Keep our ears to the ground and try and develop these guys into All Star players.

I'd also try and trade Kelly Olynyk for a lottery pick because I cant see him becoming more than a role player and he probably still has some value to GM's looking for a stretch PF (Sacramento?).


I'd try and dump Avery Bradley for a mid first round pick and try and hit some binkies with all our first round picks if we can't trade them  for a top 20 player.


 

[rondohondo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUZ9i4x-XQ

"Brad and I talk every day, he understands it, he understands whats going on"

"Picks are always assets, players aren't (depending on contracts etc) "

" You have to build through the draft and develop "

" Sometimes some voices snuff out the voice of others, trying to create a culture where everyone takes ownership for the success of the team "

[Celtics4ever]

We need to get the best draft pick possible and get the player with the best chance at becoming a franchise player. Then build around that pick and Marcus Smart and Jared Sullinger

You were going good until you said build around Sullinger.  You lost me, there and I think we will be more apt to build around our draft pick than these two who have their flaws.

I will be honest Smart has offensive limitations presently.   I love his hustle but it is what it is folks.  Sully has defensive limitations.   I think building around him will be a big mistake.

[chambers]

I'll add that I cant see Ainge signing any free agents unles they are franchise guys.
He will wait 5 years if he has to.
He's just too championship focused.

[Beat LA]

If it was up to me, I'd continue to build through the draft.  Forget about even trying to sign a star because no one wants to come here.  What we need to do now is let Thornton and Bass expire at the end of the year (and don't resign either of them, obviously), and, imo, for the rest of this season, I wouldn't play Thornton at all.  Not one minute.  Give his time to James Young. 

Also, and I know that this will be very unpopular on here, trade Jae Crowder while his value is at it's highest (whether that's before the deadline or in a sign and trade in the offseason remains to be seen) and replace him with Roscoe Smith.  That kid is putting up big time numbers in the d-league, is a terrific rebounder, a year younger and taller than Crowder, and would obviously be cheaper (not that that matters right now, lol.).  I just like the guy, okay, lol?  If he stinks, he stinks, but at least we've explored the option (cough, Hassan Whiteside, cough).

Ideally, I'd move Bradley to a contender and just get rid of Wallace, lol , but that's not going to happen, so I don't know what Ainge will do there.  The only free agent I'd be interested in is KJ McDaniels.  I can see what Danny is doing (giving away as many draft picks as possible to get established players because when push comes to shove, he doesn't know how to draft, imo), but I don't agree with it.  Use the 'assets' (god I hate that word now) over the years to get as much talent as possible through the draft and then develop them.  Obviously, this would mean relying on the lottery, lol, but there's not much else that can be done right now. 

Ideally, I'd also get rid of Olynyk, ask Sully if he's committed to losing weight (and set him up with a nutritionist or something, lol), significantly upgrade our scouting department and overall approach to the draft, never take on a bad contract in a trade and never give one out, either, reestablish the Celtic tradition of loyalty to our players, fire Brad Stevens (although I'm not sure of his replacement as of right now), and, this is the big one, have Geno Auriemma give clinics to our players in the summertime.  I'm serious.  Have them watch games from the 80s etc. (and/or the wnba and the uconn women), develop their fundamentals, completely change their style of play on both ends (exploiting mismatches and foul situations, getting in the penalty, etc.), become the best free throw shooting team in the league, have the guys BOX OUT, and consult as much as possible with Tommy, Cousy, Hondo, Cowens, Parish, Walton, Russell, etc. on how they should play the game at their given positions (Parish, Russell, Walton, and Cowens would help the big guys, Cousy would attend to our point guard(s), Hondo would sell Turner on how to thrive as the 6th man, etc.), because they won't be around forever.   Essentially, I'd change almost everything about the team right now, lol.  I don't want to play like the Spurs, I don't want to play like the Mavericks, and I don't want to play like the Warriors.  I want to play like the Celtics.  The old Celtics.  That is all, lol.

[Kuberski33]

To think that Danny will be able to recruit an obvious max player to put on this sorry roster is totally unrealistic.  It's not happening so its useless to even speculate about it.  However...you do keep searching for a special situation where maybe you find an unhappy player or a guy with obvious talent who's playing poorly or just some opportunity that no one sees coming where you can snag someone.

2nd option is pay max money for a guy who isn't yet a max player but may get there -- means you likely be overpaying -- also requires a leap of faith because you don't want to miss and Danny will get tons of grief here and probably in the media.

3rd and most likely option is draft BPA, accumulate talent and just keep looking to upgrade the roster while not getting cap tied for the future.  How disappointed will fans be if Danny uses a couple of those 1st round picks on guys he stashes in Europe for a couple of seasons?  We could be looking at something like that. 

[boscel33]

I said on another topic, I throw as much $ to Deandre Jordan in the offseason with the caveat that this is his team, he is número uno and is not playing behind CP3 or Blake.  as for our pick, I want Stanley Johnson, some if I have to move up to get him by trading other picks, I do it.

[SHAQATTACK]

Back to the lottery

[SHAQATTACK]

I'll add that I cant see Ainge signing any free agents unles they are franchise guys.
He will wait 5 years if he has to.
He's just too championship focused.

I think you are dead on here .   TP !.......he'll just run with trash he has .....till the opportunity knocks to land a TRUE franchise player .   Don't know how ,  sure he doesn't either but opportunities do come and go , he wants the assets to get what he wants .

Some team will lose a coach, fall apart , be sold ...etc.

[chambers]

We need to get the best draft pick possible and get the player with the best chance at becoming a franchise player. Then build around that pick and Marcus Smart and Jared Sullinger

You were going good until you said build around Sullinger.  You lost me, there and I think we will be more apt to build around our draft pick than these two who have their flaws.

I will be honest Smart has offensive limitations presently.   I love his hustle but it is what it is folks.  Sully has defensive limitations.   I think building around him will be a big mistake.

You may or may not love Sully but at the moment he is the best big man we have and he's also the closest thing we've got on this team to reaching All Star status ala Al Jefferson 9 years ago.
I think that while Sully has had his attitude and conditioning questions this season he's still been arguably our best player overall.  I can't blame him for being angry at the trades and he is probably exhausted after not being able to work out all summer and get himself into NBA shape.

I'm saying that even if you don't love him you must accept that he's pretty much our best prospect and asset after Marcus Smart.... and there's a reason for that and he's earned it whilst playing out of position and undergoing major surgery.
And also... He's all we've got!

Marcus Smart's offense will start to add dimensions once Brad and Marcus decide that he's ready to be the general of a motion offense. Building blocks right now but his shooting has skyrocketed and soon they'll ad his dribble drive game which you'll notice he's been more aggressive with lately.

Anyway, I say we build with the best pieces we've got while waiting for trade/supastah opportunities whilst making the draft our other major focus.

[CFAN38]

We need to get the best draft pick possible and get the player with the best chance at becoming a franchise player. Then build around that pick and Marcus Smart and Jared Sullinger

You were going good until you said build around Sullinger.  You lost me, there and I think we will be more apt to build around our draft pick than these two who have their flaws.

I will be honest Smart has offensive limitations presently.   I love his hustle but it is what it is folks.  Sully has defensive limitations.   I think building around him will be a big mistake.

You may or may not love Sully but at the moment he is the best big man we have and he's also the closest thing we've got on this team to reaching All Star status ala Al Jefferson 9 years ago.
I think that while Sully has had his attitude and conditioning questions this season he's still been arguably our best player overall.  I can't blame him for being angry at the trades and he is probably exhausted after not being able to work out all summer and get himself into NBA shape.

I'm saying that even if you don't love him you must accept that he's pretty much our best prospect and asset after Marcus Smart.... and there's a reason for that and he's earned it whilst playing out of position and undergoing major surgery.
And also... He's all we've got!

Marcus Smart's offense will start to add dimensions once Brad and Marcus decide that he's ready to be the general of a motion offense. Building blocks right now but his shooting has skyrocketed and soon they'll ad his dribble drive game which you'll notice he's been more aggressive with lately.

Anyway, I say we build with the best pieces we've got while waiting for trade/supastah opportunities whilst making the draft our other major focus.

Couple of points. Sullys surgery was two offseasons ago, that no longer  an excuse for the condition he came to camp in.

Aside from that I am high on Sully. His defense is not great and doesn't help his teammates but it is not a liability. I consider sully a push defender where as KO is a minus and Marcus is a plus. Zach Randolph is the same type of guy he isn't a good defender but he isn't bad both can be pivotal members of good defenses with the right (plus defensive) players around them. 

[saltlover]

I trade Bradley for picks (after 2015) and cap space if possible (and I think it is).  I use our trade exceptions at the deadline as a facilitator to help get more picks.  If we draft two foreign players with our firsts, they will not require cap holds this summer.  This will give us enough for two max players making $19 mil per year.  My choices are Rondo and Love, because I do think they'll both be available and willing to sign here, since a lot of the restricted players are not going to be able to leave their teams.  I trade, Olynyk, our better first (presumably Porzingis), the Dallas 1st, and the Minny pick to Sacramento for Cousins, and as part of a three-team deal, our second 2015 1st, the Cleveland 2015 1st, the 2016 Philly 2nd, Wallace, and Pressey's non-guaranteed to Philly (to help match salaries for Boogie) and a sign-and-trade for McDaniels.  We then sign Crowder to an extension (we had room to keep his Bird rights and offer a QO despite signing Rondo and Love).  This would give us a lineup of:

Rondo
Smart
Young/McDaniels
Love
Cousins

And backups of
Turner
Crowder/Young/McDaniels
Sullinger
Zeller

We would still have our room exception to add depth, as well as a couple of early second rounders for third stringers.  Going forward we would still have all of our picks, all the Brooklyn picks, the Memphis pick, the myriad of second round picks, and whatever additional picks we acquire for Bradley and trade facilitation.  We'd also still likely have cap room for a max player in 2016 (when the cap skyrockets), and our entire 2015-2016 starting lineup would be under contract for three years, creating the continuity we've beeen lacking since 2012.

So yeah, that's my master plan.  I know, I'm dreaming, but it's winter and I need to.

[GreenWarrior]

building around Sully is laughable. i'd rather build around someone that takes their career seriously and doesn't take their opportunity for granted. we've also ruined Sully by encouraging bad habits. he had potential at one point but I think he's too far gone now to ever see an all-star game.

if there's anybody to "build around" on this roster it's obviously Smart. Olynyk could possibly be a candidate but I think he's too busy being a tampon. if he ever decides to stop maybe then we'll see what he can do and go from there.

Smart on the other hand is none of these things. "lazy" and "wuss" are 2 words no one will ever use to describe Smart. "tough" and "hard worker" are.

it's just a matter of where his game goes, primarily in the next 3 yr's. I personally think Smart won't be an All-star, and that's not to say I don't think he will improve, because I do think he will...he has since summer league. I just think his numbers will be too consistently erratic to put up averages that make you an All-star. he will fill the stat sheet every night though...he's gonna be the ultimate garbage man imo.

I think he will be the captain of this team and a guy we can build around.