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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2015, 08:44:21 PM »

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We need to atleast offer a max to a young guy. Jimmy Butler being one of them. I doubt that he'll sign, but we can't just be sitting here doing nothing.

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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2015, 08:44:25 PM »

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Paul Millsap.  Durable.  Good defender.  Great passer.  Adequate 3 point shooter.  Character guy/hard worker.  Reputedly a great locker room guy.  Career 50% shooter.  5 FT's per game.

4 years / 50M would be a bargain.

Not crazy about his age, especially considering he's undersized PF. These type of players don't tend to age too well. We also would be paying for past production instead of his potential contributions during the given contract.
We'd be paying for the 30-34 years.  He has a 7-1 wingspan and he's a really heady, crafty scorer.  He's coming from a winning culture.  If he ages something like Paul Pierce, this would be a sweet deal.

Channing Frye got 4 years / 32M.  Given the upcoming salary cap...

Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2015, 09:50:20 PM »

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Not getting Milsap.

To the OP, Gerald Wallace was not a mistake. It was the price to make that deal work. No deal is perfect.

Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2015, 10:12:38 PM »

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Milsap is to old to be part of this teams future.

One option I have previously mentioned and would be on board with is paying Monroe and using Sully, TPE and picks to try to get favors. I think that's a big man combo that can be built around.
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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2015, 10:14:57 PM »

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Milsap is to old to be part of this teams future.

One option I have previously mentioned and would be on board with is paying Monroe and using Sully, TPE and picks to try to get favors. I think that's a big man combo that can be built around.
I doubt either Monroe or Favors will be available.

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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2015, 10:24:29 PM »

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How can DeAndre Jordan not be our top choice and an obvious max contract candidate? The guy averages 13.5 rbg and 2.5 bpg with 70% FG (also throw in 1 spg). He is currently 26 years old and is a 7 foot human trampoline with actual basketball skills. So he can't shoot free throws - oh well. If we got him to man the middle, we would no longer need to care how stubby or fat KO and Sully are.

The thing is, if we are going all in on DeAndre, we also need to go for Dragic or Butler. If both are re-signed by their current teams, maybe we could convince PHX to trade us Bledsoe.

I am not crazy about going all-in this offseason - I thought we might be able to maintain our cap flexibility by taking on contracts for next year, but Danny is obviously trying to get all the expirings he can. If we aren't going to use our TPEs, then these guys seem like the ones with most upside.

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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2015, 10:39:27 PM »

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How can DeAndre Jordan not be our top choice and an obvious max contract candidate? The guy averages 13.5 rbg and 2.5 bpg with 70% FG (also throw in 1 spg). He is currently 26 years old and is a 7 foot human trampoline with actual basketball skills. So he can't shoot free throws - oh well. If we got him to man the middle, we would no longer need to care how stubby or fat KO and Sully are.

The thing is, if we are going all in on DeAndre, we also need to go for Dragic or Butler. If both are re-signed by their current teams, maybe we could convince PHX to trade us Bledsoe.

I am not crazy about going all-in this offseason - I thought we might be able to maintain our cap flexibility by taking on contracts for next year, but Danny is obviously trying to get all the expirings he can. If we aren't going to use our TPEs, then these guys seem like the ones with most upside.

We'd be more attractive to Butler or Dragic of we had Jordan.

Do we have room for two max contracts this summer? I don't think we do, which is what it would take for these guys.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2015, 10:44:24 PM »

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I think Jimmy Butler would be a good place to start. The guy plays quality defense and can score the ball. Im not sure i love him on a max deal but if we can lock him in before the new deal then he could be a steal on his current trajectory. He can play some 2 and 3 which is now a need for us. The only draw back is that he could potentially limit James Young's minutes, but with that said i think a rotation of Smart, Bradley, Butler, and Young. With both Butler and Young rotating in with (possibly if we keep him around) Crowder could work. Then go after a guy like WCS with our lotto pick.

With all that said though, I'm uncertain we need to sign anyone. We will almost certainly have a logjam of young talent in the near future. Im a firm believer that if we stay the course we will have a quality team in 2-3 years.
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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2015, 10:50:06 PM »

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How can DeAndre Jordan not be our top choice and an obvious max contract candidate?

I totally forgot that he's an expiring contract.

Absolutely. We should atleast send him a max contract offer. Don't know our chances of getting him but we have to atleast offer him something.
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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2015, 10:55:38 PM »

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How can DeAndre Jordan not be our top choice and an obvious max contract candidate?

I totally forgot that he's an expiring contract.

Absolutely. We should atleast send him a max contract offer. Don't know our chances of getting him but we have to atleast offer him something.
The thing is, we could easily grab a DJ-clone who is younger, cheaper, and has a higher ceiling than DJ in WCS. If we're picking around 5 or 6 and can't trade up, I think we should go that route rather than shelling out the max. We could then just get Butler and Dragic with max contracts ;)
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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2015, 11:10:16 PM »

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not interested in any upcoming FAs unless their last name is Durant or Aldrige

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If Ainge sits around passing up every FA besides Durant or Aldridge, he's gonna have one helluva time trying to assemble a team.

why do you need to sign a FA unless it's a real good one??

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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2015, 11:11:42 PM »

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No max contracts next summer.

Wait until 2016.
i agree this is the most likely scenario. but one possible reason to give out a max contract sooner is to beat the new cap.
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Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2015, 11:21:12 PM »

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Hardest position to fill is the 5 man, Center.  I'd give DeAndre Jordan the bank, and build around the rest with your picks and/or trades.  It's easier finding players in the draft at other positions than Jordan's.  Especially with that many picks.

Smart
Bradley
Young
Crowder
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Jordan

Use your picks to fill in the blanks in the draft or trades.  Smart, Bradley, Crowder, plus Jordan is one helluva start to an outstanding defensive unit and gets you immediately to top 5 status in the East.

BTW, if Ainge thought Jordan was worth it for KG/Pierce and that trade, then he thinks he's worth it going forward.  He wanted the guy, and I don't see why that would change now.

A little late, don't you think, lol? ::)  He could have had him on draft night, as well, but noooooo.  Ugh.  Of course, he also could have gotten Hassan Whiteside for next to nothing, but showed absolutely zero interest.  Sigh.


Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2015, 11:30:18 PM »

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No max contracts next summer.

Wait until 2016.
i agree this is the most likely scenario. but one possible reason to give out a max contract sooner is to beat the new cap.

This was sort of the point of the thread, how important is it to beat the cap? And what else do we do with our money?

If we do get a number of our players through the draft, then that means they're cost controlled and we have a lot of cap room to take chances with. I'm all for making an attempt to get ahead of the curve, shoot for a Wes Welker from Miami (I know it was a trade, sort of) signing, and deal with the chance that you get Danny Amendola.

Re: Do we need to give out a max contract this summer?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2015, 11:35:21 PM »

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You guys realize that the Celtics are not the only team with knowledge that the cap will be rising? The max guys will not be available to us because we cannot outbid for them over their original teams, most of which are better situations than the Celtics. The best chance for the Celtics is to slightly overpay for a guy nobody is expecting to be good. This means forget about Butler, Green, Monroe, Jordan, Millsap, etc.

Celtics would have a shot at the tier of guys like DeMarre Carroll, KJ McDaniels, Enes Kanter, Reggie Jackson, Kyle O'Quinn types if they give a strong offer over other suitors (including the original team).