How is Danny Ainge different from Sam Hinkie?

[MBunge]

Hinkie has gotten a ton of flack for what he's done in Philadelphia, but is what Ainge currently doing that much different?

1.  Ainge came into this season trying to do a quick rebuild.  It didn't work but that's a big difference than Hinkie who, let us remember, committed to tanking and only tanking at the 2013 draft.

2.  The deal Ainge got for KG and Pierce was about 1000% better than any deal Hinkie has made.

3.  Rondo and Green were traded largely because of what their looming salary demands would be.  That hasn't been a factor for Philly.

4.  Ainge's team is not only winning about twice as many games, they're doing it with a roster that even now has more NBA quality players on it.  How many of Philly's players would even be in the league if the Sixers weren't trying to be bad?

Mike

[SHAQATTACK]

Hand Stinky ?

[aingeforthree]

Has Hinkie gotten flack?  I think Hinkie is brilliant.  I've been very jealous of the job he's done with the 76ers.  They have 4-5 players with superstar potential.  So far Boston has 0, but that could change in the next several years.

You're the same guy crying because of this roster, yet Hinkie's built a team for years that struggles to get to ten wins. How brilliant is that ?

[Roy H.]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

[colincb]

Ainge keeps his word?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/09/report-76ers-general-manager-sam-hinkie-reneged-on-promise-to-release-andrei-kirilenko/

Yeah, why pick this particular battle?  AK47 has very little value, and you're potentially burning future bridges with players and agents.

...and GMs.

[aingeforthree]

Biggest difference:

Ainge has a team built with non lotto picks that still can beat Hinkie's team, yet Hinkie picks about 20 slots ahead of Ainge each year, except for 2014

[aingeforthree]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

[Roy H.]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

It cracks me up that Danny can do no wrong, and other GMs can do no right, in the eyes of so many Celtics fans.

Danny sold very low on Rondo, and Hinkie traded Holiday at the absolute apex of his value.  Either Hinkie gets credit, or Danny gets blame, or both.

[BleedGreen1989]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

It cracks me up that Danny can do no wrong, and other GMs can do no right, in the eyes of so many Celtics fans.

Danny sold very low on Rondo, and Hinkie traded Holiday at the absolute apex of his value.  Either Hinkie gets credit, or Danny gets blame, or both.

I don't mind Rondos value, but yeah, Hinkie found a team desperate to "win now" despite their best player being 20 years old.

[aingeforthree]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

It cracks me up that Danny can do no wrong, and other GMs can do no right, in the eyes of so many Celtics fans.

Danny sold very low on Rondo, and Hinkie traded Holiday at the absolute apex of his value.  Either Hinkie gets credit, or Danny gets blame, or both.

Hinkie drafted 2, 16, 15, 14, & 3rd overall since 2010 & STILL can't field a team better than Ainge's torn down Celtic team.

No GM is perfect, but you can't sit here & tell me you'd take Hinkie over Ainge. Are you saying that ?

[KCattheStripe]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

It cracks me up that Danny can do no wrong, and other GMs can do no right, in the eyes of so many Celtics fans.

Danny sold very low on Rondo, and Hinkie traded Holiday at the absolute apex of his value.  Either Hinkie gets credit, or Danny gets blame, or both.

For me, Hinkie gets credit and Danny can't be blamed for an ACL tear.

[aingeforthree]

One difference: Hinkie got excellent value when he traded his all-star PG.

What did he get for a pg wanting a max deal, coming off knee surgery, & not even top 10 at his position ?

He got two picks, including the guy many thought would go #1, for a one-time all-star point guard who wasn't top 10 at his position.

And Ainge got two picks, Wright, Nelson, Crowder, & a 12.9 M TPE. That's fair & then some for a non top 10 pg coming off knee surgery & one you're not paying the max to

It cracks me up that Danny can do no wrong, and other GMs can do no right, in the eyes of so many Celtics fans.

Danny sold very low on Rondo, and Hinkie traded Holiday at the absolute apex of his value.  Either Hinkie gets credit, or Danny gets blame, or both.

I can't give credit to a gm with that many top 15 picks & still struggles for a ten win season. That's awful.

Ainge would turn that many great picks into an East contender in under 4 years. That's another difference.

[loco_91]

Has Hinkie gotten flack?  I think Hinkie is brilliant.  I've been very jealous of the job he's done with the 76ers.  They have 4-5 players with superstar potential.  So far Boston has 0, but that could change in the next several years.

Respectfully asking, but who on that roster is one of those 4-5 with "superstar" potential?  MCW?  Noel?  Embiid?

Tony Wroten is a gunner.  Robert Covington was pulled off the d-league scrap heap, and is right now their BEST scorer on most nights.  I mean, that's it...  I don't see ONE player on that roster with "superstar" potential...

Embiid is obviously superstar potential.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Well, I'm not sure it's wise to expect great things when you draft two bigs who had major injuries before they even played a single game. And MCW isn't exactly tearing up the league, not to mention he's a terrible 3PT and FT shooter. And I think Boston has way more assets for future building than Philly, which I think has already shipped off most of its near-future draft picks.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Has Hinkie gotten flack?  I think Hinkie is brilliant.  I've been very jealous of the job he's done with the 76ers.  They have 4-5 players with superstar potential.  So far Boston has 0, but that could change in the next several years.

Respectfully asking, but who on that roster is one of those 4-5 with "superstar" potential?  MCW?  Noel?  Embiid?

Tony Wroten is a gunner.  Robert Covington was pulled off the d-league scrap heap, and is right now their BEST scorer on most nights.  I mean, that's it...  I don't see ONE player on that roster with "superstar" potential...

Embiid is obviously superstar potential.

He also could quite easily be the next Sam Bowie.