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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2015, 10:43:19 AM »

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Prediction:  First team that pony's up a late protected 1st gets Green.  Otherwise, we move him at the deadline for an expiring contract and 2nd rounder.

Can't imagine him being here after the deadline... we dont' want to risk him staying on the books.

Most likely.

Trading for "good not great" players appears to be cheap the past few seasons. Makes me hopeful for when Boston is finally ready to spend it's draft picks.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2015, 11:29:28 AM »

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Doubt anyone's offered a legitimate 1st rounder for him or he'd be moved already.

In the 473 minutes(~10 games worth) with Jeff Green on the bench this season, The Celtics have played at a level that would be 3rd best in the League. Not saying that we'd be the 3rd best team in the league if we traded him, but he is clearly not helping us win games. Not a one season aberration or a case where the backup SF is awesome either.

And now he's ignoring Brad during team huddles late in games(visible on the Bulls broadcast).

Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2015, 12:28:18 PM »

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It is clear he has to go - and is going. It's funny to me that we need to rid our team of "poisonous" players like he and Rondo, though. If you take a step back and put yourself in their shoes, you probably would feel and react the same way (Rondo, in particular). If your boss treated you similarly to the way Rondo's been treated (dangling at every deadline), you probably would not want to stay at your job either. Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along? 
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2015, 01:17:48 PM »

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I am in no rush to dump Green. I want something good or I keep him because
1. I don't want Young or Turner to start at SF. Like both those guys at SG and PG in truth. (Turner as back up PG and SF)

2. Right now I am willing to pay Green 11 million over 4 years to stay and be a good vet on the team. IF C's land a big in draft such as Okafor, DJohnson, WCS, Turner he is a good SF to have in the lineup.

3. He doesn't hurt our winning % yet he can help the young guys be pros.

4.If we don't land a big in draft and get SJohnson or another top swing man just do a S&T Green.
 
5. Honestly if you ain't getting much now then what is the point. Better to keep him in case of above scenario.

Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2015, 01:21:41 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2015, 01:32:15 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

No, they don't. Hypothetically (not the case), if they did, it wouldn't be broadcast for them to see and hear every day. And again... no, they don't.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2015, 01:52:36 PM »

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I am in no rush to dump Green. I want something good or I keep him because
1. I don't want Young or Turner to start at SF. Like both those guys at SG and PG in truth. (Turner as back up PG and SF)

2. Right now I am willing to pay Green 11 million over 4 years to stay and be a good vet on the team. IF C's land a big in draft such as Okafor, DJohnson, WCS, Turner he is a good SF to have in the lineup.

3. He doesn't hurt our winning % yet he can help the young guys be pros.

4.If we don't land a big in draft and get SJohnson or another top swing man just do a S&T Green.
 
5. Honestly if you ain't getting much now then what is the point. Better to keep him in case of above scenario.

How do you feel about four years at $14M per for Mr. Green? I actually wouldn't mind if Mr. Crowder manned the starting SF spot for the rest of the year--and yes, I want room for Mr. Young to play.

Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2015, 01:56:56 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

No, they don't. Hypothetically (not the case), if they did, it wouldn't be broadcast for them to see and hear every day. And again... no, they don't.
I worked at a company that manufactured batteries, and almost all the workers were contractors. One year they were a month ahead of schedule and actually completed all of their orders for the year in late October and the company just let half the employees go, shut down the factory for a month and hired all new people in January. I would much rather be a pro athlete with guaranteed money wherever I go than have that happen to me.

I can't comment on the media scrutiny.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2015, 02:34:09 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

No, they don't. Hypothetically (not the case), if they did, it wouldn't be broadcast for them to see and hear every day. And again... no, they don't.

Sure they do--it's known as being an "employee at will". No guaranteed contracts, no waiting around for some other employer to take them off their hands.

On the flip side, only elite employees like Rondo and Green get guaranteed contracts, in practicality meaning they can't simply walk over to an otherwise willing employer that they're not under contract to.

All told the system makes for a better entertainment product and makes both sides lots of money. Trying to equate the GM of a team offering any and all of his players for a positive trade doesn't really translate into most people's daily lives or work experience IMO.

Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2015, 04:53:01 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

No, they don't. Hypothetically (not the case), if they did, it wouldn't be broadcast for them to see and hear every day. And again... no, they don't.
I worked at a company that manufactured batteries, and almost all the workers were contractors. One year they were a month ahead of schedule and actually completed all of their orders for the year in late October and the company just let half the employees go, shut down the factory for a month and hired all new people in January. I would much rather be a pro athlete with guaranteed money wherever I go than have that happen to me.

I can't comment on the media scrutiny.

That certainly sounds like a difficult situation - sorry to hear that is the state of affairs in some sectors. I am aware of similar situations, as well. It is just my opinion that it is not the norm... more specifically with regard to the openness of any one particular individual's expandability being openly broadcast every year.

I've worked in, and still work in, an extremely competitive environment. Production is a necessity, and very few issues that get in the way of productivity are tolerated (including medical issues). I just don't believe there is a comparison. But perhaps that is the point, as the poster above me pointed out. I do understand there is a difference between the "entertainment" business and our respective lines of work. I do not think individuals change, however, as a result of such circumstances. We are innately who we are... and I can't imagine that  pressure... not even in the face of the pressure I face (and we, it appears) from day to day.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2015, 05:01:49 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

Yup......that's REAL life in the public sector ......

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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2015, 05:12:08 PM »

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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2015, 05:19:14 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

To some extent, but the conditions within the NBA allow for trades where there is no such concept in the 'regular' working world.  For Green, it would be a situation where his boss is willing to move him (not "drop" him) to a better situation where he still gets paid the same amount of money.  It's not necessarily a bad thing for him.  And, again, it's a known part of the business he's in so I don't know why anyone would feel bad for the millionaire NBA player.
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Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2015, 05:21:43 PM »

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Imagine going into work every day, knowing that your boss is more than willing to drop you as soon as something prettier comes along?
Most people work under those conditions.

No, they don't. Hypothetically (not the case), if they did, it wouldn't be broadcast for them to see and hear every day. And again... no, they don't.

Sure they do--it's known as being an "employee at will". No guaranteed contracts, no waiting around for some other employer to take them off their hands.

On the flip side, only elite employees like Rondo and Green get guaranteed contracts, in practicality meaning they can't simply walk over to an otherwise willing employer that they're not under contract to.

All told the system makes for a better entertainment product and makes both sides lots of money. Trying to equate the GM of a team offering any and all of his players for a positive trade doesn't really translate into most people's daily lives or work experience IMO.
As a business owner in the US, I assure you that Clover is right.  I could fire anyone, any time for any reason or no reason at all.  I don't do that, of course.  It would be a surefire way to scuttle a small business.  There can also be side effects related to unemployment insurance depending on circumstances and where you live.  "Employee at will" is very real.

Re: Please trade Jeff Green
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2015, 05:22:28 PM »

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Wonder if Detroit might be interested, especially considering their removal of Smith and their turn for the better. Could do a deal like:

To DET: Green, Pressey
To BOS: Jerebko, Anthony, the right to swap 2015 LAC 1st round pick for 2015 DET 1st round pick (lottery protected; if protection doesn't permit, DET sends BOS their 2015 2nd round pick and 2017 2nd round pick)
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