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The education of Marcus
« on: January 02, 2015, 10:49:21 PM »

Offline piercetruth34

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2 3's again tonight and once got to the line.  Seems to be a trend so far.  He fit a pull up the other night and 3 3's.   Pushed the pace nicely though and outletted the ball.  I really feel like Marcus is going to be a big time player here and fit our style of play ultimately.   His offense is still developing, but 7 assists in limited minutes.  His fg percentage suffered as he forced a few 3's but as he gets into the paint more that will climb. 

I like what Stevens is doing though.  HE isn't afraid to move Marcus around.  Marcus switched and picked up Dirk on more than one occasion and really bodied him and forced Dirk into some bad plays.

Re: The education of Marcus
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2015, 11:01:41 PM »

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Give the man time to learn his team and the players in the NBA ......you have to know your enemy ...how to play against them.

I think he us doing fantastic , thinking back to how some other guards like AB looked their first year on the floor.

Re: The education of Marcus
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2015, 11:06:58 PM »

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Marcus switched and picked up Dirk on more than one occasion and really bodied him and forced Dirk into some bad plays.

Marcus played better D on Dirk than Sully, not that says much.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2015, 11:10:15 PM »

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i'd like to know why jameer gets mins. at all? if marcus is making mistakes out there, then you put jameer in. otherwise there's no point, I think we know what kind of pro jameer will be. let's not run plays for him.

1st half when jameer was out there, it was all about jameer. smart was not moving just standing on the 3 pt. line playing the "maybe someone will forget about me offense". what the hell are we doing with these players?

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 11:42:31 PM »

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i'd like to know why jameer gets mins. at all? if marcus is making mistakes out there, then you put jameer in. otherwise there's no point, I think we know what kind of pro jameer will be. let's not run plays for him.

1st half when jameer was out there, it was all about jameer. smart was not moving just standing on the 3 pt. line playing the "maybe someone will forget about me offense". what the hell are we doing with these players?

I think we'll see a month and a half of this to try to get a team in the playoffs to bit on Nelson. After the deadline if no one bits, I wouldn't be surprised if the C's cut him.

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 11:49:38 PM »

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i'd like to know why jameer gets mins. at all? if marcus is making mistakes out there, then you put jameer in. otherwise there's no point, I think we know what kind of pro jameer will be. let's not run plays for him.

1st half when jameer was out there, it was all about jameer. smart was not moving just standing on the 3 pt. line playing the "maybe someone will forget about me offense". what the hell are we doing with these players?

I think we'll see a month and a half of this to try to get a team in the playoffs to bit on Nelson. After the deadline if no one bits, I wouldn't be surprised if the C's cut him.

I think the only players that need to be showcased are Wright and Crowder...Nelson is a known commodity at this point. all playing him more does is risk getting him injured and then we're stuck having to cut him and get nothing for him.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 11:23:22 AM »

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When the C's made their run last night I thought that was some of the best ball for smart this year. He just played, made some nice passes and his defense was strong. The last two games have been encouraging. He is solid on the pick n roll, once he is healthy he will attack the hoop.

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2015, 12:00:47 PM »

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Smart's been good so far. I think that's an apt assessment to be honest. His defense has been great and I enjoy the Bradley, Smart, Crowder, Sully, + a big lineup we saw last night in the push the Celtics tried to make late. They actually played decently offensively too. However, Smart did rush that 3 early in the clock off a fast break after Boston dwindled a near 30 pt lead to what, 12 pts? But he's a rookie so hopefully he'll learn not to rush it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2015, 12:09:29 PM »

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i'd like to know why jameer gets mins. at all? if marcus is making mistakes out there, then you put jameer in. otherwise there's no point, I think we know what kind of pro jameer will be. let's not run plays for him.

1st half when jameer was out there, it was all about jameer. smart was not moving just standing on the 3 pt. line playing the "maybe someone will forget about me offense". what the hell are we doing with these players?
     I too, have been unable to understand why Nelson gets any minutes at all. I would rather see Lil Press get his minutes. At least you could argue that Pressey has more upside than Nelson. And he probably shoots better than Nelson. I cringe every time I see Nelson throw up another shot. Other interested teams know how well he plays at this point in his career. No "showcasing" needed. Let him sit and give all his minutes to our other guards.

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2015, 12:22:36 PM »

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At least you could argue that Pressey has more upside than Nelson. And he probably shoots better than Nelson. I cringe every time I see Nelson throw up another shot. Other interested teams know how well he plays at this point in his career. No "showcasing" needed. Let him sit and give all his minutes to our other guards.

Nelson was a .34% three point shooter presently, Phil is like a 20% three point shooter.  Go back to the drawing board?    I think he serves zero purpose as well but we are marketing to teams in need.    Perhaps google some stats or watch some games before you post?

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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 12:47:24 PM »

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i'd like to know why jameer gets mins. at all? if marcus is making mistakes out there, then you put jameer in. otherwise there's no point, I think we know what kind of pro jameer will be. let's not run plays for him.

1st half when jameer was out there, it was all about jameer. smart was not moving just standing on the 3 pt. line playing the "maybe someone will forget about me offense". what the hell are we doing with these players?

I think we'll see a month and a half of this to try to get a team in the playoffs to bit on Nelson. After the deadline if no one bits, I wouldn't be surprised if the C's cut him.

I think the only players that need to be showcased are Wright and Crowder...Nelson is a known commodity at this point. all playing him more does is risk getting him injured and then we're stuck having to cut him and get nothing for him.


Same thing could be said about Green and Bass. Why play them, they only help the team and gives them a better chance of injury. GM's want to see what a player is doing now, and not what they could do a month ago. Plus GM's wont want a guy who has been sitting on the bench getting out of basketball shape. Then when GM's ask to see him play a couple weeks before deadline, he's out of shape and gets hurt because of it. Or he stinks because he hasn't played in a couple months and his value goes down anyways.

 Teams that will want Nelson wont have time for him to get into shape while they are trying to get there home court advantage, or even make the playoffs. So They'll play him until a trade can be made. If not that, who knows what they will do, all depends on other trades.

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 12:56:01 PM »

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Smart played good last night in the way he pushed the ball up the court via pass. That got the team into an attack mode on both ends.

As fans we have a view point of the game that is over critical as we can sit back and clearly see mistakes as they are. The game is fast out there when your actually playing and all players rush shots or make mistakes. Bird chucked up a ton of bricks in his day.

All it takes is a few special plays a game to turn the game in your favor and go home with the win. Every play does not have to be scripted to perfection and I am very positive in that Marcus continues to show us an ability to make plays out there that I would call special and these give energy to the whole team.

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2015, 01:07:10 PM »

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I am in agreement with most that I wish he would attack the rim more.

most rookies take there time learning the speed of the game and I think that is what we are seeing. In the NBA lanes close down much faster.

Much like KO after his shot got blocked a few times it took a while before we saw the confident quick release come back into his game. He didn't want to create negative plays for his team.

In recent games we saw Marcus get into mid range for a couple jumpers and his form looked good. Also saw him come off a screen to draw defenders and give a good pass. he will continue to probe closer to the hoop until he knows for certain he will get there to finish.

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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2015, 01:34:25 PM »

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At least you could argue that Pressey has more upside than Nelson. And he probably shoots better than Nelson. I cringe every time I see Nelson throw up another shot. Other interested teams know how well he plays at this point in his career. No "showcasing" needed. Let him sit and give all his minutes to our other guards.

Nelson was a .34% three point shooter presently, Phil is like a 20% three point shooter.  Go back to the drawing board?    I think he serves zero purpose as well but we are marketing to teams in need.    Perhaps google some stats or watch some games before you post?

Yeah, I love L'il Phil, but he's not really a better shooter than anyone.

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2015, 01:35:54 PM »

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Meanwhile, the education of James continues with an assignment to Maine for tonight's game.

I'm actually surprised they didn't just fly him to White Plains for yesterday afternoon's game as well.