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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2014, 07:09:50 PM »

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2014, 07:59:52 PM »

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2014, 08:54:27 PM »

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Busy right now, so if anyone could run the numbers on Rondo's max deal that'd be killer -- always better to use real numbers instead of "the max."

He's eligible for 30% of the cap in his first year of the deal (aka next season), which is ~$17,695,000, with a 7.5% raise on the first year added each season (so he's getting a 1,327,125 raise each season at the most).

I can do the math in a hot minute, but deadlines call.

I already posted them earlier.  A max deal, assuming about a 5% increase in the salary cap, will start near $19 million, with raises near $900k for other teams trying to sign him.  So about 4 years, $82 million.  Someone will offer that, guaranteed.  Celtics can offer significantly more, although I don't think they should need to offer more than an option year for year 5.

The caveat is that's assuming about a 5% increase in the cap, which is in line with expectations if they do not stagger in the revenue from the new TV deal a year early.  The TV deal could raise the cap by about 40% in two years from where it is now.  If they do include some of the new money (which would require negotiations from the players association), the cap could rise up to about 20%, which would greatly alter the landscape, as max deals would be more, but likely a few more teams would have money to spend.

If the cap doesn't include any of the new TV money until 2016, the Celtics should just keep Rondo at the max.  In 2016, his contract would be for $20 million against a cap near $90 million, which would be the equivalent of a $14 million salary against today's $63 million cap.  In 2017, the players will opt out of the CBA and likely get a larger share of revenue split, thus increasing the cap again.  A max deal next year might be a bit of an overpay, but the rest of the years it will be a relative bargain.
who is going to offer 4 years, 82 million for Rondo?

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2014, 09:18:54 PM »

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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.

Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2014, 09:29:10 PM »

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2014, 09:34:28 PM »

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Busy right now, so if anyone could run the numbers on Rondo's max deal that'd be killer -- always better to use real numbers instead of "the max."

He's eligible for 30% of the cap in his first year of the deal (aka next season), which is ~$17,695,000, with a 7.5% raise on the first year added each season (so he's getting a 1,327,125 raise each season at the most).

I can do the math in a hot minute, but deadlines call.

I already posted them earlier.  A max deal, assuming about a 5% increase in the salary cap, will start near $19 million, with raises near $900k for other teams trying to sign him.  So about 4 years, $82 million.  Someone will offer that, guaranteed.  Celtics can offer significantly more, although I don't think they should need to offer more than an option year for year 5.

The caveat is that's assuming about a 5% increase in the cap, which is in line with expectations if they do not stagger in the revenue from the new TV deal a year early.  The TV deal could raise the cap by about 40% in two years from where it is now.  If they do include some of the new money (which would require negotiations from the players association), the cap could rise up to about 20%, which would greatly alter the landscape, as max deals would be more, but likely a few more teams would have money to spend.

If the cap doesn't include any of the new TV money until 2016, the Celtics should just keep Rondo at the max.  In 2016, his contract would be for $20 million against a cap near $90 million, which would be the equivalent of a $14 million salary against today's $63 million cap.  In 2017, the players will opt out of the CBA and likely get a larger share of revenue split, thus increasing the cap again.  A max deal next year might be a bit of an overpay, but the rest of the years it will be a relative bargain.
who is going to offer 4 years, 82 million for Rondo?

Only a fool.


Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2014, 09:40:44 PM »

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What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2014, 09:43:26 PM »

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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.

Didn't he also say he thought he was a max player--and he'd like to have a conversation with Danny about a no-trade?

Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2014, 10:19:15 PM »

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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.
Are you satisfied with your income? Then you must not want a raise.
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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
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If Rondo did sign, I would NOT be surprised if it was at a weird discount he got a no-trade clause.

I'm warming up to Rondo's "I want to stay in Boston" isn't lip service, even if there is a rebuild. The talk of a no-trade clause (after what he saw Pierce go through) makes it more probable in my mind.

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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.
Are you satisfied with your income? Then you must not want a raise.

Well said.
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Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2014, 10:50:40 PM »

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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.
Are you satisfied with your income? Then you must not want a raise.

Well said.
Or he is a millionaire, has everything he will ever need,and wants to stay in Boston. Rather than move his family across the country.

Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2014, 09:14:19 AM »

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If Rondo did sign, I would NOT be surprised if it was at a weird discount he got a no-trade clause.

I'm warming up to Rondo's "I want to stay in Boston" isn't lip service, even if there is a rebuild. The talk of a no-trade clause (after what he saw Pierce go through) makes it more probable in my mind.


I am OK with the big non-max contract with a no-trade clause. 

If the Celtics and Rondo relationship goes south, (much like NY and Melo relationship) Rondo can waive the no-trade to leave. 



But I expect the team to improve going forward once Rondo is locked in and the team can look to add the other needed talent.

Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2014, 09:32:37 AM »

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Recently asked if he would like to make star money, Rondo said, "I already make star money."....
just saying,maybe he is happy in Boston and happy with his income.
Are you satisfied with your income? Then you must not want a raise.

Well said.
Or he is a millionaire, has everything he will ever need,and wants to stay in Boston. Rather than move his family across the country.

This makes me laugh!  That's what everyone said about Jon Lester, what did he end up doing, he took the offer with the most cash and moved his family across country!  Rondo is going to chase the dollars, whether it's in Boston, NY or LA.  He is no different than all the other players in the sport.  Moving his family from one place to another is not a big deal IMO...

Re: What should Danny offer Rondo this off-season?
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To name two recent examples, Steve Nash and Derek Fisher both bailed on playing with teams because they'd have to uproot their families to do so. I don't think you can paint all athletes with a broad brush like that.
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