Fans of Avery Bradley Thread

[hwangjini_1]

color me a fanboy. i don't think he is an all star, but he is a good shooter with well above average defense. and his salary is reasonable in that it won't really impact the celtics payroll once the new revenue system kicks in.

i like watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

[Celtics4ever]

I liked his D better a few years ago, I prefer MS defense now.   He is not chopped liver and we could do worse.   Despite what some here think I think our problems our lack of one great defensive big rather than guard play.

[aingeforthree]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

[TheFlex]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

TP.

[biggs]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

I'm not sold on Avery.  Good kid, great D, but I don't see him as part of our core moving forward.  Shooting guards are supposed to be able to shoot, dribble and create.  Avery does none of these things, and if he can't learn those things he is paid for potential, which I don't see.
 
Having said that, he could be a great bench player, albeit an overpaid one.

We took a gamble paying him that much, hoping that he will improve.  I just don't see it.

[biggs]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

I'm not sold on Avery.  Good kid, great D, but I don't see him as part of our core moving forward.  Shooting guards are supposed to be able to shoot, dribble and create.  Avery does none of these things, and if he can't learn those things he is paid for potential, which I don't see.
 
Having said that, he could be a great bench player, albeit an overpaid one.

We took a gamble paying him that much, hoping that he will improve.  I just don't see it. Meanwhile you have Danny telling us we have the "best perimeter defense" in the league. Has that done anything to make us a legitimate threat? No

[TheFlex]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

I'm not sold on Avery.  Good kid, great D, but I don't see him as part of our core moving forward.  Shooting guards are supposed to be able to shoot, dribble and create.  Avery does none of these things, and if he can't learn those things he is paid for potential, which I don't see.
 
Having said that, he could be a great bench player, albeit an overpaid one.

We took a gamble paying him that much, hoping that he will improve.  I just don't see it.

This is really, really false. Look at his statistics in each of the last couple years and compare them to your favorite SGs and you'll see that this is untrue. I don't get why this lie continues to get dragged through CB forums. There are plenty of legitimate critiques of Bradley's game to choose from, I don't understand why fans choose to highlight his shooting as a weakness (it isn't).

He just turned 24 and continues to show improved shot creation ability. He seems to have developed a greater ability to finish through contesting defenders, as previously discussed. His ball handling is certainly better than it was a couple of years ago. He played SG for a team that went to the ECF and was one of the catalysts that launched it to such basketball heights. He's better now than he was then. Get him better teammates, including a rim protector, and he's one of the better starting SGs in the league.

[GzUP617]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

I'm not sold on Avery.  Good kid, great D, but I don't see him as part of our core moving forward.  Shooting guards are supposed to be able to shoot, dribble and create.  Avery does none of these things, and if he can't learn those things he is paid for potential, which I don't see.
 
Having said that, he could be a great bench player, albeit an overpaid one.

We took a gamble paying him that much, hoping that he will improve.  I just don't see it.

This is really, really false. Look at his statistics in each of the last couple years and compare them to your favorite SGs and you'll see that this is untrue. I don't get why this lie continues to get dragged through CB forums. There are plenty of legitimate critiques of Bradley's game to choose from, I don't understand why fans choose to highlight his shooting as a weakness (it isn't).

He just turned 24 and continues to show improved shot creation ability. He seems to have developed a greater ability to finish through contesting defenders, as previously discussed. His ball handling is certainly better than it was a couple of years ago. He played SG for a team that went to the ECF and was one of the catalysts that launched it to such basketball heights. He's better now than he was then. Get him better teammates, including a rim protector, and he's one of the better starting SGs in the league.

 They got to blame somebody,  their is not a Celtics player who isn't hated on by someone in this board, each player has a scapegoat image of themselves on here.

 My theory is that these same people need to see an "established" name come in a trade for us, these same guys didn't see the development of said "established" player and don't watch enough of their games to see their off-nights.

 We had people here last year begging for Afflalo when he wasn't even highly regard before last years season, a guy who in his first few years stats were worse than Avery Bradley's.

 
If I had to guess why we under appreciate our players,  id say it was the transition from sucking and than receiving KG and Ray allen in a trade that felt like it came out of no where, add in a championship to that in the first season after that and you have your reason.

[Shamrocker]

i liked watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

Fixed it to reflect my opinion. The Avery Bradley of 2012 was an on-ball havoc creator; a defensive tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen around these parts. That guy doesn't play anymore. 

[TheFlex]

i liked watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

Fixed it to reflect my opinion. The Avery Bradley of 2012 was an on-ball havoc creator; a defensive tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen around these parts. That guy doesn't play anymore.

Untrue. Wait until we get a rim protector before you say that with such conviction.

[aingeforthree]

It amazes me that this guy is still only 23 but yet has plenty of NBA experience under his belt.  People grade this guy out like he's 30 and been in the league for 10 years.

Crazy thing is, he can still get better.  He's still in development mode.  It's all about consistency with Bradley.  If he can consistently do the things he does well (defense, score) night in and night out, he's going to be a solid starter in this league.

I'd like him to continue to work on his shot selection, and passing.  He doesn't swing the ball often enough for me, and he's a little lackluster with some shot selection at times.  If he can keep up the shooting percentages though he had last year (44% from 2, 40% from 3, 81 % from the line), he's going to be a good one.

Keep the development going, as he's got the tools to be pretty darn special.

I'm not sold on Avery.  Good kid, great D, but I don't see him as part of our core moving forward.  Shooting guards are supposed to be able to shoot, dribble and create.  Avery does none of these things, and if he can't learn those things he is paid for potential, which I don't see.
 
Having said that, he could be a great bench player, albeit an overpaid one.

We took a gamble paying him that much, hoping that he will improve.  I just don't see it.

This is really, really false. Look at his statistics in each of the last couple years and compare them to your favorite SGs and you'll see that this is untrue. I don't get why this lie continues to get dragged through CB forums. There are plenty of legitimate critiques of Bradley's game to choose from, I don't understand why fans choose to highlight his shooting as a weakness (it isn't).

He just turned 24 and continues to show improved shot creation ability. He seems to have developed a greater ability to finish through contesting defenders, as previously discussed. His ball handling is certainly better than it was a couple of years ago. He played SG for a team that went to the ECF and was one of the catalysts that launched it to such basketball heights. He's better now than he was then. Get him better teammates, including a rim protector, and he's one of the better starting SGs in the league.

My guess is he meant to center on Bradley's driving ability.  Tough to harp on his shooting when he comes off a year and puts up numbers like 44% from 2, 40% from 3, & 81 % from the line.  Those are solid numbers.

He's improved every year on his shooting.  He isn't really a creator, or anything of the sort, but playing with Rondo who has to be ?

He can come off screens and make a name for himself by doing just that.  He's just got to continue to put in the work and keep getting consistent.  His shot looks great, and if he gets the consistency down, he's going to be a solid SG for years to come.

I'd also like him to stay in a bit and help on the defensive boards.  I think he could average plenty of points per game, I'd like to see his assist and rebounding totals go up though.

[aingeforthree]

i liked watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

Fixed it to reflect my opinion. The Avery Bradley of 2012 was an on-ball havoc creator; a defensive tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen around these parts. That guy doesn't play anymore.

I think the refs have taken this aspect away from his game a bit.  They often times just want to call a foul based on his aggressiveness (whether he committed one or not).  They think there's a foul because nobody hardly ever steals the ball from out there (where Bradley usually is creating havoc) without fouling.

Bradley's a tough call for any ref.  It stinks really.  For him and the C's.  We saw one play like this just last night.

[hwangjini_1]

i liked watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

Fixed it to reflect my opinion. The Avery Bradley of 2012 was an on-ball havoc creator; a defensive tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen around these parts. That guy doesn't play anymore.

please dont put your words in my mouth. i like seeing bradley play defense. if you dont, i dont mind and i dont put my words in your mouth.

[86MaxwellSmart]

The bigger question should be:
Why on Earth is Phil Pressey on this team....?

He is HORRIBLE.

[Shamrocker]

i liked watching him play defense. now if he would only take 3 point shots instead of the [dang]ed 21 footers....

Fixed it to reflect my opinion. The Avery Bradley of 2012 was an on-ball havoc creator; a defensive tsunami unlike anything we've ever seen around these parts. That guy doesn't play anymore.

please dont put your words in my mouth. i like seeing bradley play defense. if you dont, i dont mind and i dont put my words in your mouth.

You seem to have missed the part where I wrote " fixed it to reflect my opinion." Must read carefully.