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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2014, 09:46:34 AM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though. 


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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2014, 09:51:51 AM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though.
No, but adding a backup center and wing doesn't address the fact that Olynyk and Sullinger can't protect the paint, and the starting lineup doesn't have a go-to scorer or working half-court sets.
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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2014, 10:00:19 AM »

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I think if we play any team with out a legit paint presence we can dominate them. What do y'all think?

We played just such a team last night with no Valucianis and no Amir Johnson.

How'd that work out for us?

Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2014, 10:09:02 AM »

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A lot of teams have legit paint presence though or a young one developing but not us.   Ainge's fondness for tweeners and guys who play without a set position kind of hurts us in this regard.

Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2014, 10:23:24 AM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though.
No, but adding a backup center and wing doesn't address the fact that Olynyk and Sullinger can't protect the paint, and the starting lineup doesn't have a go-to scorer or working half-court sets.

I was thinking of adding a solid starting-caliber center and a bench scoring wing who isn't a huge defensive liability.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2014, 10:47:12 AM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2014, 10:49:42 AM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

It's a step forward but they'll still be lacking a go-to scorer.  When the game slows down, who's going to be taking over?


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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2014, 10:51:17 AM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though.
No, but adding a backup center and wing doesn't address the fact that Olynyk and Sullinger can't protect the paint, and the starting lineup doesn't have a go-to scorer or working half-court sets.

I was thinking of adding a solid starting-caliber center and a bench scoring wing who isn't a huge defensive liability.

Are these purely hypothetical players or do you have any examples?
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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2014, 10:53:40 AM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

It's a step forward but they'll still be lacking a go-to scorer.  When the game slows down, who's going to be taking over?

Good Point - that guy isn't on the roster now that's for sure...

Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2014, 10:56:03 AM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

It's a step forward but they'll still be lacking a go-to scorer.  When the game slows down, who's going to be taking over?

Good Point - that guy isn't on the roster now that's for sure...

Nope & until they get a guy of that ilk on this roster, they won't be many any deep playoff runs or even make the playoffs although this team plus Jordan would certainly inch them closer to a low seed in the East.


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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2014, 11:12:51 AM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though.
No, but adding a backup center and wing doesn't address the fact that Olynyk and Sullinger can't protect the paint, and the starting lineup doesn't have a go-to scorer or working half-court sets.

I was thinking of adding a solid starting-caliber center and a bench scoring wing who isn't a huge defensive liability.

Are these purely hypothetical players or do you have any examples?

Purely hypothetical, but probably attainable in the summer of 2015.
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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »

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I think if we play any team with out a legit paint presence we can dominate them. What do y'all think?

We played just such a team last night with no Valucianis and no Amir Johnson.

How'd that work out for us?

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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2014, 04:43:29 PM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

It's a step forward but they'll still be lacking a go-to scorer.  When the game slows down, who's going to be taking over?
Or when a team locks down and starts playing some real team defense, like Toronto did last night.  Its easy to throw the pretty passes for easy layups and zip the ball around in the first half when no one's focusing on shutting down passing lanes.

Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2014, 04:52:40 PM »

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Take Rondo, Bradley, Smart, Green, Olynyk, and Sullinger.  Add a solid center who can soak up the 25mpg going to Bass/Zeller and a MLE-level decent sixth-man-type wing who can split the 35mpg that Turner/Thornton are getting with Smart and this is a playoff team with upside.
Nah. Our issues are not on the bench. Our issues come from the starting lineup not having enough talent.

This bench doesn't help, though.
No, but adding a backup center and wing doesn't address the fact that Olynyk and Sullinger can't protect the paint, and the starting lineup doesn't have a go-to scorer or working half-court sets.

I was thinking of adding a solid starting-caliber center and a bench scoring wing who isn't a huge defensive liability.

Are these purely hypothetical players or do you have any examples?

Purely hypothetical, but probably attainable in the summer of 2015.

Agreed. I have no problem turning into Denver East next season.
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Re: Better than any team without a center
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2014, 05:06:45 PM »

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If this current roster is intact for next season ( Rondo etc...) adding Jordan to the mix to play C and having Sully as the full time PF and KO off the bench....

I think the C's would be a top 4 team in the East?? what do you think?

I think that team makes the playoffs as a 5-8 seed for sure by just adding D. Jordaon.  It would be a step in the right direction.  As others have said, it seems like we still need an alpha-dog scoring wing who can get their own shot and isn't undersized.

I like Avery a lot as a player, but I think that is the starter I would replace, or preferably bump back to a 6th / 7th man role.  Get D. Jordan and big a 2 that can score the ball and get his when we need him to.  Then our bench of KO, Avery, Smart, Zellar and Turner/Thorton or whomever sticks around would be a great starting point.