Rondo rumor on where fracture actually happened

[Eddie20]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

Not to put words in BBall Tim's mouth, but one is an isolated fluke injury and one is a chronic career compromising/ending ailment. Please tell me you're playing dumb to win an argument.

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion. Rondo should be back in a couple of months, but that's what the Wolves thought about Love a couple of years ago too.

The fact remains that Rondo has had 3 significant injuries since 2011. Did he play in 2011? Yes. Was he effective? No. Should he have even played? No. So is his body beginning to breakdown after all the minutes he's logged? Possibly, but to rule it out completely, as Tim often does on all things Rondo, speaks to his bias.

  I don't think the issue is my bias. It's either your memory or your reading comprehension. I'm not sure which, but then again I don't really care.

Tim, you really are a funny dude. You get so worked up over the little guy. Relax, you'll live longer.

[Eddie20]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

  Bird had a congenital back problem that was worsened by the abuse it took from all the basketball. He didn't undergo back surgery because of yard work.

You should read "Drive". It talks in detail on when the back injury occurred and how it impacted him afterwards.

  So you're claiming that Bird didn't have congenital back issues and that the sole reason he had back problems in his career was because of yard work?

He did have congenital back problems and he was going to deal with it eventually, but his first incident occurred while he was doing work in the yard. Conversely, Rondo could have osteoporosis and as a result his fragile and withering bones will only be more prone to fractures in the future.

[BballTim]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

Not to put words in BBall Tim's mouth, but one is an isolated fluke injury and one is a chronic career compromising/ending ailment. Please tell me you're playing dumb to win an argument.

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion. Rondo should be back in a couple of months, but that's what the Wolves thought about Love a couple of years ago too.

The fact remains that Rondo has had 3 significant injuries since 2011. Did he play in 2011? Yes. Was he effective? No. Should he have even played? No. So is his body beginning to breakdown after all the minutes he's logged? Possibly, but to rule it out completely, as Tim often does on all things Rondo, speaks to his bias.

  I don't think the issue is my bias. It's either your memory or your reading comprehension. I'm not sure which, but then again I don't really care.

Tim, you really are a funny dude. You get so worked up over the little guy. Relax, you'll live longer.

  I don't get that worked up, although you're frequently foaming at the mouth when I refute points you attempt to make.

[Nerf DPOY]

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion.

Except that back injuries are most often cumulative. Bird's problems likely had little to do with the "yard work" he was doing that day.  After Rondo's hand completely heals, he figures to be as healthy as anybody. 

[Eddie20]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

Not to put words in BBall Tim's mouth, but one is an isolated fluke injury and one is a chronic career compromising/ending ailment. Please tell me you're playing dumb to win an argument.

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion. Rondo should be back in a couple of months, but that's what the Wolves thought about Love a couple of years ago too.

The fact remains that Rondo has had 3 significant injuries since 2011. Did he play in 2011? Yes. Was he effective? No. Should he have even played? No. So is his body beginning to breakdown after all the minutes he's logged? Possibly, but to rule it out completely, as Tim often does on all things Rondo, speaks to his bias.

  I don't think the issue is my bias. It's either your memory or your reading comprehension. I'm not sure which, but then again I don't really care.

Tim, you really are a funny dude. You get so worked up over the little guy. Relax, you'll live longer.

  I don't get that worked up, although you're frequently foaming at the mouth when I refute points you attempt to make.

You honestly think so? 

[Nerf DPOY]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

  Bird had a congenital back problem that was worsened by the abuse it took from all the basketball. He didn't undergo back surgery because of yard work.

You should read "Drive". It talks in detail on when the back injury occurred and how it impacted him afterwards.

  So you're claiming that Bird didn't have congenital back issues and that the sole reason he had back problems in his career was because of yard work?

He did have congenital back problems and he was going to deal with it eventually, but his first incident occurred while he was doing work in the yard. Conversely, Rondo could have osteoporosis and as a result his fragile and withering bones will only be more prone to fractures in the future.

Seriously? He's not my 88 year old grandmother.

[Eddie20]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

  Bird had a congenital back problem that was worsened by the abuse it took from all the basketball. He didn't undergo back surgery because of yard work.

You should read "Drive". It talks in detail on when the back injury occurred and how it impacted him afterwards.

  So you're claiming that Bird didn't have congenital back issues and that the sole reason he had back problems in his career was because of yard work?

He did have congenital back problems and he was going to deal with it eventually, but his first incident occurred while he was doing work in the yard. Conversely, Rondo could have osteoporosis and as a result his fragile and withering bones will only be more prone to fractures in the future.

Seriously? He's not my 88 year old grandmother.

Sarcasm

[2short]

Haven't read the book but pretty well known bird hurt his back shoveling rock for his moms driveway.  Dave cowens played the game like I wish everyone would....yet if he would have taken it easier he wouldn't have had the injuries he did
  
I guess I'm getting old.
We have people here complaining about the guy who flung himself under/around that guard? (See I am old)$To get steal and assist
Same guy played with dislocated arm

Bird chief and mchale wouldn't stand up well to this sort of criticism

[Nerf DPOY]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

  Bird had a congenital back problem that was worsened by the abuse it took from all the basketball. He didn't undergo back surgery because of yard work.

You should read "Drive". It talks in detail on when the back injury occurred and how it impacted him afterwards.

  So you're claiming that Bird didn't have congenital back issues and that the sole reason he had back problems in his career was because of yard work?

He did have congenital back problems and he was going to deal with it eventually, but his first incident occurred while he was doing work in the yard. Conversely, Rondo could have osteoporosis and as a result his fragile and withering bones will only be more prone to fractures in the future.

Seriously? He's not my 88 year old grandmother.

Sarcasm

Oh okay. Hahah I just thought you were grasping at straws at an insane level! TP.

[BballTim]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

Not to put words in BBall Tim's mouth, but one is an isolated fluke injury and one is a chronic career compromising/ending ailment. Please tell me you're playing dumb to win an argument.

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion. Rondo should be back in a couple of months, but that's what the Wolves thought about Love a couple of years ago too.

The fact remains that Rondo has had 3 significant injuries since 2011. Did he play in 2011? Yes. Was he effective? No. Should he have even played? No. So is his body beginning to breakdown after all the minutes he's logged? Possibly, but to rule it out completely, as Tim often does on all things Rondo, speaks to his bias.

  I don't think the issue is my bias. It's either your memory or your reading comprehension. I'm not sure which, but then again I don't really care.

Tim, you really are a funny dude. You get so worked up over the little guy. Relax, you'll live longer.

  I don't get that worked up, although you're frequently foaming at the mouth when I refute points you attempt to make.

You honestly think so? 

  I'd guess so. Maybe you just naturally go semi-incoherent at times. Seriously, do you ever pay attention to what you post? You always claim that I'm obsessed with Rondo but you're posting in every Rondo thread (usually before I do), seem to be neck deep in almost every discussion and have started many more threads about him than I ever had. I guess you don't pay any more attention to what you post than you do to what I post.

[BballTim]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

  Bird had a congenital back problem that was worsened by the abuse it took from all the basketball. He didn't undergo back surgery because of yard work.

You should read "Drive". It talks in detail on when the back injury occurred and how it impacted him afterwards.

  So you're claiming that Bird didn't have congenital back issues and that the sole reason he had back problems in his career was because of yard work?

He did have congenital back problems and he was going to deal with it eventually, but his first incident occurred while he was doing work in the yard.

  Did that happen right before he had back surgery? I haven't read that book.

[hwangjini_1]

Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

excuse me, but the "44" and "52" mentioned above? for the sake of clarity you should note that that represents ONE stretch of games over two seasons, stemming from ONE injury. to separate them and use as examples in a way that seems to say or imply "rondo suffers from repeated injuries that are serious in nature" year after year would simply be inaccurate.

he has had ONE major injury in his career. are we say rose, paul, and everyone else with one major injury is injury prone? what of sully? he too missed a large part of one season due to ONE problem. are he and rondo both to be put in the same dunking tank?

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Sorry, but I don't know how anyone can NOT at least be a little skeptical of this shower story?

A grown man slipping in the shower and breaking his hand?

Really?

And it just happens to take place as training camp is set to being??

And by the way I also don't think Rondo was in a fight nor do I think he hurt it on a trampoline.

I think this could be more related to the fact that "hey, the team's going to suck, why win more games than we have to, so let's sit our best player for the first couple weeks, or month, or 2 months." Then, magically Rondo looks healthy in time for the trade deadline and is shipped out.

I think what was written above is a possibility.  Let's not forget about a week ago, Wyc came out to the media and said Rondo is "stubborn, difficult to coach, mentioned Doc Rivers name (i don't know why his name was even mentioned)" that could of upset Rondo and his camp.

There could of been an argument/disagreement. In the end both Wyc/management and Rondo/Agent agreed, to let Rondo stay home for a few months.  From the Celtics perspective , this is ok as Smart gets to show what he has.  If Smart is lost, struggles,is looking like a bust then once Rondo comesback and if he plays well, the team can focus on Rondo as the teams pg for the LR. Smart could be traded. If Smart exceeds expectations and plays like MCW did last season, then the team can look fwd to trade Rondo at the deadline (bc he will not be offered the kind of money/years he is looking for).

For Rondo's camp it's ok for him to sit bc it's up to Smart to prove himself on the court. If he can't, they will now how much the team willl need Rondo.  Also you are getting paid still and there is less chance for him to get reinjured before the trade deadline.

This is absolutely silly.  Rondo, the celtics, and the team gain nothing from RR missing time this year.  This 'conspiracy theory' stuff is a serious stretch.

Well, no that's not true.

Maybe the Celts don't necessarily have anything to "gain" from Rondo being out, but it also leads to a rather ideal situation for them.

With Rondo out, they can get a better look at Smart and see what he's capable of.

It's sort of like an evaluation period for the team, leading up to the trade deadline.

See how Smart can do and evaluate how the team does without Rondo as opposed to how they play WITH Rondo.

Then at the trade deadline, re-evaluate your options.

Look if you want to believe some crazy celtic front office conspiracy theory that this is all planned just to get Smart minutes be my guest. 

But don't try to say it is 'ideal' situation for the team.  That is just crazy.  They can evaluate Smart in training camp and during the season.  They don't need Rondo out of the way to do that.  I would say the 'ideal' way to develop Smart would be to slowly increase his minutes over the season.  Let him play with Rondo and learn from him.  Give him lots of minutes against opposing backups to get his feet wet.  Preferably not have the pressure of running the team on his shoulders from day 1 of his rookie season.

But yeah, I am sure the celtics would rather dream up a scheme to keep Rondo out of the lineup.  smh.

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Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

excuse me, but the "44" and "52" mentioned above? for the sake of clarity you should note that that represents ONE stretch of games over two seasons, stemming from ONE injury. to separate them and use as examples in a way that seems to say or imply "rondo suffers from repeated injuries that are serious in nature" year after year would simply be inaccurate.

he has had ONE major injury in his career. are we say rose, paul, and everyone else with one major injury is injury prone? what of sully? he too missed a large part of one season due to ONE problem. are he and rondo both to be put in the same dunking tank?

If Sully misses 13 games next season, and then another 13 games in the season after that, then the answer is yes even though he would not fit in the same dunking tank. 

As moiso stated, 4 injuries in 5 years.  Is injury prone only for what you define as "major" injuries?? 

You are excused. 

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Rondo is very injury prone.  Stuff like this is inevitable regardless of how it happened.  His brittle body has a tendency to break down in various ways.   He's missed like 100 games over the past two seasons.

I still don't classify him as injury prone.  If he gets another major injury in the next 2 years, then I will.

last four years Rondo has missed 13 games, 13 games, 44 games, and 52 games.  That is 3 separate injuries and he now his 4th in 5 years.  That is pretty much the definition of injury prone.

  Two of those 3 injuries were a sprained ankle and a sprained wrist, both of which kept him out of the lineup for 2 weeks or so. "Injury prone" is a stretch.

Rondo isn't "Injury Prone"?!?  Sorry, but Rondo is the definition of injury prone.  I don't care if it was a sprained ankle or a sprained brain, he has missed a crapload of games.  For the record, a crapload = 13+13+44+52+ whatever 6-8 wks amounts to this year.

  Before Rondo's knee injury he'd played for about 6 and a half seasons plus over 90 playoff games. He'd never had an injury more serious than a sprain, he'd never missed as many as 10 games in a row due to injury and he'd only missed more than 5 straight games twice. His current injury might not cost him more than a few games either. That's hardly the definition of injury prone.

You also forgot the dislocated elbow in May 2011 that would've put him out of action for a long time. I agree with you earlier in his career he was a model of health, but things change. The fact remains that he's now had 3 significant injuries in a little over 3 years and recent history gives him that injury prone label. Same thing happened with Bird. He was basically an iron man his first 9 years and then his body started breaking down.

While more than a month and a half has gone by since he dislocated his elbow, Rondo still needs more time before he will be able to get on the court and play basketball again this offseason.

“He’s not 100 percent yet,’’ said president of basketball operations Danny Ainge on Wednesday afternoon. “He’s probably about four weeks away from playing basketball full speed. But he can do some training and conditioning right now.’’

  Rondo missed about 5 minutes with the elbow. And I don't know if you ever saw Bird play, but it really wasn't the same as what's going on with Rondo, unless you don't see a difference between a broken bone in your hand and Bird's back injury.

Rondo's injury allegedly occurred while taking a shower, Bird's while he was doing yardwork.

Not to put words in BBall Tim's mouth, but one is an isolated fluke injury and one is a chronic career compromising/ending ailment. Please tell me you're playing dumb to win an argument.

The point being that both occurred in a fluky fashion. Rondo should be back in a couple of months, but that's what the Wolves thought about Love a couple of years ago too.

The fact remains that Rondo has had 3 significant injuries since 2011. Did he play in 2011? Yes. Was he effective? No. Should he have even played? No. So is his body beginning to breakdown after all the minutes he's logged? Possibly, but to rule it out completely, as Tim often does on all things Rondo, speaks to his bias.

  I don't think the issue is my bias. It's either your memory or your reading comprehension. I'm not sure which, but then again I don't really care.

Tim, you really are a funny dude. You get so worked up over the little guy. Relax, you'll live longer.

  I don't get that worked up, although you're frequently foaming at the mouth when I refute points you attempt to make.

You honestly think so? 

As much as you claim that Tim is Rondo's blinkie, I see a lot of your posts in this thread as arguing to argue. 

Rondo has had (1) serious career threatening injury - his ACL.  It takes up a majority of the games missed in his career.  He probably won't miss that many games this year from the broken hand and he basically missed none from his dislocated elbow.  So your grandstanding to back up your 'injury-prone' label for Rondo speaks as much to your bias as you claim is coming from Tim.  The claims that the C's are faking, hiding, or taking part in keeping him out for games to get smart playing time is just plain dumb.
 
Rondo may never be the same player again after the acl injury.  We'll have to wait and see.  Hopefully he has a good year and gets back to a high level of play.