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Report: Greg Monroe accepts Piston's qualifying offer
« on: August 12, 2014, 12:45:02 PM »

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Figured I'd post this as Monroe is one of the last impact FA's left on the market.

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Greg Monroe is "definitely" willing to take the one-year qualifying offer worth $5.3 million next season with the Detroit Pistons in order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

Monroe has disputed being offered a five-year, $60 million contract by the Pistons.

Monroe reportedly doesn’t have anything against the Pistons or new coach/president Stan Van Gundy. In fact, the source said, Monroe “likes Van Gundy and likes what he says,” but added that Monroe “needs proof (of Van Gundy’s vision).”

I think there's lots of pieces that could interest SVG in a S&T. Jeff Green, Kelly Olynyk, draft picks, ect.

Edit: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2014/08/12/greg-monroe-restricted-free-agent-pistons-qualifying-offer/12940893/

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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

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Figured I'd post this as Monroe is one of the last impact FA's left on the market.

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Greg Monroe is "definitely" willing to take the one-year qualifying offer worth $5.3 million next season with the Detroit Pistons in order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

Monroe has disputed being offered a five-year, $60 million contract by the Pistons.

Monroe reportedly doesn’t have anything against the Pistons or new coach/president Stan Van Gundy. In fact, the source said, Monroe “likes Van Gundy and likes what he says,” but added that Monroe “needs proof (of Van Gundy’s vision).”

I think there's lots of pieces that could interest SVG in a S&T. Jeff Green, Kelly Olynyk, draft picks, ect.

That bolded part is interesting. Wonder whether he really has been offered that kind of deal, or whether that's spin from his agents.

I'd heard that Detroit was willing to match offers by other teams, but I haven't heard of anyone actually preparing one. Phoenix was supposedly interested in a bid, as were Washington and Portland via trade.
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Olynyk would complement Drummond well, and Van Gundy likes his stretch 4's. I'm not sure I want Monroe or Josh Smith though.

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Figured I'd post this as Monroe is one of the last impact FA's left on the market.

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Greg Monroe is "definitely" willing to take the one-year qualifying offer worth $5.3 million next season with the Detroit Pistons in order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

Monroe has disputed being offered a five-year, $60 million contract by the Pistons.

Monroe reportedly doesn’t have anything against the Pistons or new coach/president Stan Van Gundy. In fact, the source said, Monroe “likes Van Gundy and likes what he says,” but added that Monroe “needs proof (of Van Gundy’s vision).”

I think there's lots of pieces that could interest SVG in a S&T. Jeff Green, Kelly Olynyk, draft picks, ect.

That bolded part is interesting. Wonder whether he really has been offered that kind of deal, or whether that's spin from his agents.

I'd heard that Detroit was willing to match offers by other teams, but I haven't heard of anyone actually preparing one. Phoenix was supposedly interested in a bid, as were Washington and Portland via trade.

$12 million per for Monroe is quite cheap concerning his market value, so not sure what "spin" the agent might be gaining from leaking that information.

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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

I still think that Smith is bound for Sacramento. Doesn't Jason Terry (buyout) and Derrick Williams for Smith make a lot of sense for both sides?
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Olynyk would complement Drummond well, and Van Gundy likes his stretch 4's. I'm not sure I want Monroe or Josh Smith though.

I would. I think it's a step in the right direction.

Monroe and Smith are starting caliber players whereas Olynyk as a 6th man off the bench.

Could Detroit come to terms with Monroe on the 1 year qualifying offer and then trade him to the Celts?

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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

Why would we want too?   He is inefficient and a poor shooter.

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Figured I'd post this as Monroe is one of the last impact FA's left on the market.

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Greg Monroe is "definitely" willing to take the one-year qualifying offer worth $5.3 million next season with the Detroit Pistons in order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

Monroe has disputed being offered a five-year, $60 million contract by the Pistons.

Monroe reportedly doesn’t have anything against the Pistons or new coach/president Stan Van Gundy. In fact, the source said, Monroe “likes Van Gundy and likes what he says,” but added that Monroe “needs proof (of Van Gundy’s vision).”

I think there's lots of pieces that could interest SVG in a S&T. Jeff Green, Kelly Olynyk, draft picks, ect.

That bolded part is interesting. Wonder whether he really has been offered that kind of deal, or whether that's spin from his agents.

I'd heard that Detroit was willing to match offers by other teams, but I haven't heard of anyone actually preparing one. Phoenix was supposedly interested in a bid, as were Washington and Portland via trade.

$12 million per for Monroe is quite cheap concerning his market value, so not sure what "spin" the agent might be gaining from leaking that information.

"My client loves playing in Detroit. We'd certainly consider whatever offers the Pistons have made, but we've yet to receive one. Any reports that we've rejected a contract offer from them are patently false."
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Olynyk would complement Drummond well, and Van Gundy likes his stretch 4's. I'm not sure I want Monroe or Josh Smith though.

I would. I think it's a step in the right direction.

Monroe and Smith are starting caliber players whereas Olynyk as a 6th man off the bench.

Could Detroit come to terms with Monroe on the 1 year qualifying offer and then trade him to the Celts?

If it's after he signs for the qualifying offer, would we want to give up assets to get a guy who will be an unrestricted free agent after one season with us? Wyc mentioned in a recent interview that Ainge had many opportunities to make waves this summer , but was being more patient than even Wyc wanted because he wants the "right kind of players". I'm not sure Monroe or Josh Smith fit that description, but who knows?

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Figured I'd post this as Monroe is one of the last impact FA's left on the market.

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Greg Monroe is "definitely" willing to take the one-year qualifying offer worth $5.3 million next season with the Detroit Pistons in order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2015.

Monroe has disputed being offered a five-year, $60 million contract by the Pistons.

Monroe reportedly doesn’t have anything against the Pistons or new coach/president Stan Van Gundy. In fact, the source said, Monroe “likes Van Gundy and likes what he says,” but added that Monroe “needs proof (of Van Gundy’s vision).”

I think there's lots of pieces that could interest SVG in a S&T. Jeff Green, Kelly Olynyk, draft picks, ect.

That bolded part is interesting. Wonder whether he really has been offered that kind of deal, or whether that's spin from his agents.

I'd heard that Detroit was willing to match offers by other teams, but I haven't heard of anyone actually preparing one. Phoenix was supposedly interested in a bid, as were Washington and Portland via trade.

$12 million per for Monroe is quite cheap concerning his market value, so not sure what "spin" the agent might be gaining from leaking that information.

"My client loves playing in Detroit. We'd certainly consider whatever offers the Pistons have made, but we've yet to receive one. Any reports that we've rejected a contract offer from them are patently false."

Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

Smith has NO ROLE on this team whatsoever. He's entirely ineffective at the 3, so bringing him in means we have yet another 4 when we already have a logjam for minutes at that same position. Why would I want an overpaid, no-defense 4 whose PER and per 36 numbers were worse than both Sullinger and Olynyk (who are both on rookie contracts)?
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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

Smith has NO ROLE on this team whatsoever. He's entirely ineffective at the 3, so bringing him in means we have yet another 4 when we already have a logjam for minutes at that same position. Why would I want an overpaid, no-defense 4 whose PER and per 36 numbers were worse than both Sullinger and Olynyk (who are both on rookie contracts)?

Smith does do one thing well that no one else on our team does, he is a legit shot blocker. If I had any faith that Rondo and Stevens could reign him in and get him to focus on defense and stay in the paint on offense, I would do it. At this point in his career though, I don't see him changing. He chucks up a ton of inefficient shots and thinks he's a 3 point shooter, and is unfocused and inconsistent on both ends of the floor.

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If Monroe resigns, I am willing to bet we can pry Josh Smith from Detroit.

No way they'd resign Monroe and still keep Smith as having both guys is redundant.

In fact, if anything I would go as far to assume that if Ainge doesn't go after Smith, that he truly intends on a long-term rebuild and Rondo is gone by the deadline in February.

Smith has NO ROLE on this team whatsoever. He's entirely ineffective at the 3, so bringing him in means we have yet another 4 when we already have a logjam for minutes at that same position. Why would I want an overpaid, no-defense 4 whose PER and per 36 numbers were worse than both Sullinger and Olynyk (who are both on rookie contracts)?
Smith could protect the rim and play with either Olynyk or Sullinger. His elite athleticism would be served well running the pick and roll with Rondo, especially because both KO and Sully have range.

This team isn't good enough to worry about positions yet. They just need to add talent. If we could get Josh Smith from the Pistons for Wallace and a first, that's an upgrade in talent and a move we should make.

As far as Monroe goes. I think he could greatly improve our center position. I would trade for him before the season if he is only inked at the QO (since it would drive his price down), but I think it's more realistic that we make a move for him once we start selling off assets. Either way, the more free agents next year when we have cap space the better.
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Sounds like the pistons are following the strategy the suns are usin with Bledsoe. Basically, don't overpay unless you have to, don't make an offer, just threaten to match any offers other teams make. It seems to have worked at least in driving down potential suitors for these guys.

And this is exactly why I hope Monroe, and Bledsoe too, take the Qualifying Offer, play out the season, and then leave their respective teams with nothing, as unrestricted free agents, the following summer.

This is something I've wanted to see players do for some time now.  The team's have too much power over RFA's, and playing for the QO is a way for the player's to take back a bit of the power.  Many RFA's get low-balled in contract negotiation's for this exact reason.

The purpose of the QO has always been, partly, to be a sort of "threat" to teams that refuse to make good faith contract offers to RFA's.  The problem is, because almost no player ever goes that route, it is nothing more than a hollow threat teams pay no attention to.