My 2 cents: looks like a knee-jerk "toss almost everyone who's not on a rookie deal and keep everyone who is or was recently signed".  bad approach

First, Rondo.  He's a keeper.  period.  all the trades being kicked around are trying to bring in players of his caliber.  we already have one such player.  smart move is to keep him.

No issue with trying to move the mediocre players on the roster.  easier said than done at this point.
Green, Bass, Wallace, Thornton, Anthony, Turner
All guys that will either be off the books after this year or next.  No real building blocks but guys that could be valuable to a contender at the deadline looking for that final piece of the puzzle OR as salary filler in a deal to bring in a really good player.
No real crisis if they can't be traded.  Just accept the cap relief as it becomes available if that's the case. 

Bogans, Babb, CJ.
non-guaranteed deals to hopefully be used to facilitate a deal for a good player.  players to be cut before the season in a worst-case scenario.  Bogans will never wear green again and Babb/CJ have many better players ahead of them on the depth chart now.  they won't be on the opening roster

Youth to develop:
Zeller, Sully, KO, AB, Smart, Young, Pressey, Vitor
Vitor and Pressey would be a stretch at this point to expect big improvements.  if they're even here for the season opener, their playing time this year will be limited.  Young will most likely spend the year in Maine developing.  while I like these guys, I don't see an all-star here and would be open to trading them if it brought in someone better.

and this part - ugh
"The last group is players not on the roster that I'd like to see with the team this year.  They all have potential, and/or fit a need for the team this year."
Dairus Bertans
Mike Moser
Colton Iverson
-->um, these guys are scrubs.  was hoping Iverson would show he could be a backup for this year but he was awful in summer league.  I expect he'll be back in Europe this year and the C's to eventually cut ties with him.  The other 2 are D-leaguers that should not make this roster.  Why you think they're deserving of a roster spot is beyond me.  what need to they fill--player not dressed for game?

what you call a 'lost' season is what I call a developmental year where the team helps its young players develop and improves itself either by acquiring better player, better trade assets and/or better cap/financial flexibility.  If NONE of that occurs, then I'd agree it was a lost year.  I suspect at a minimum the young players will develop and 1-2 trades will occur that will improve the cap and either add to the current arsenal of trade assets or improve the financial flexibility of the team going forward.

couldn't disagree more on your desire to trade Rondo.  only reason to do that is to go into full tank mode and race Philly to the bottom of the standings.  why unload the one player on the roster that actually is the quality of player you're hoping to bring in?  rather pointless from where I stand.

I like CJ but the kid's D-league level player.  he started off well last year then fizzled.  wish him well but time to move on. Besides, answer this--in your move to get young players playing time to develop, who would you take minutes away from to give to CJ?  Smart? AB, Young? Turner?  Pressey?  all 5 ahead of CJ on the depth chart and all, except Turner, could use the playing time to develop since, in your own words, they're "keepers".  CJ should never see the court and I wouldn't tie up a roster spot for a guy that could be replaced by a half dozen other guys out of the d-league or went undrafted this year.

Same issue with Moser--kid is D-league material and shouldn't see the court.  Bertans too.  which better player are you proposing to take playing time from to watch a guy that shouldn't be on an NBA roster much less an NBA team's playing rotation?

You're swapping out proven NBA players for guys that shouldn't be in the NBA.  I don't get this mentality.  I'm all for trading the role-player quality vets if a deal beneficial to the C's comes along but not for the sake of filling their roster spot with D-league scrubs.

Iverson is a summer league disappointment.  was rooting for him to show he was ready to be a back up but he looks like anything but.  no spot for him.  you even advocate dumping.  not sure why you're advocating dumping Fav when he's shown a little something when given playing time.  particularly since you want to fill his spot with a scrub.

I think we all agree Rondo is the type of player we are hoping Ainge brings in, except he's too old. Rondonis in the middle of his prime and we in all likelihood won't be contending for 3 years. Rondo would be over 30 at that time and we don't know how his game will hold up with age, while he will always be an effective passer his production and athletisicm will have taken a noticeable hit. Which is why many fans would like to see him moved for some kind of young player or picks.

Lastly, CI is a big physical guy that we don't have now!  He's got the size to bang with anyone and loves to do it!  As an end of the bench third string C, I think he' be OK!  And never did I advocate dumping Vitor, as he' be my backup C after Zeller----again at the end I said unless through trade we'd acquire something better!

Don't forget Joel Anthony.  I think it's extremely unlikely we enter the season with 1 backup C (Zeller) and 3 different third string Centers on top of Sully and Olynyk who will probably eat all the Center minutes.  With our injury luck it wouldn't be the worst idea, but I don't expect Iverson to make the team over Pressey and Bogans.

I don't think it helps to get rid of EVERY SINGLE VETERAN.

I know we just signed Avery but I kinda like this starting lineup:

Marcus Smart
Evan Turner
Jeff Green
Sully
KO

I think that would be a fun lineup to watch.

I like what you are going for Ohio Green, but I think we need to keep at least one good locker room vet on the team.  Even if it is a guy that doesn't see the court, I think the kids need an example guy who can show them what kind of preparation and dedication you need to have a successful career in the NBA.  A good example is Kevin Ollie on those early OKC teams.  Durant still talks about how much he helped that team grow and mature, even though he rarely saw the court.

Quote from: OhioGreen on August 08, 2014, 09:43:14 AM

Just some thoughts on the direction I would like to see the C's go in this year regarding their roster!

These guys are players that need to go.  They're players who either have some trade value, are veterans that are holding up younger players, or players who are pretty much irrelevant to are team(or a combination).  Get what you can for them! Picks or players with 2 yrs or less in the league, that show SOME potential.

Rondo
Green
Bass
Wallace
Thornton
Anthony
Bogans

The next group is our keepers(for this year, anyway).  They all have four or less years in the league, and have some to major upside to possibly reach!

Zeller
Sully
KO
Turner
AB
Smart
Young
Pressey
Vitor
CJohnson
Babb

The last group is players not on the roster that I'd like to see with the team this year.  They all have potential, and/or fit a need for the team this year.

Dairus Bertans
Mike Moser
Colton Iverson

The last two groups would give us 14 players, so with trades from the first group they could all not make the roster---so---the final group is in order the players I would eliminate to make room for additions:

Babb
Iverson
CJohnson
Pressey
Vitor

It would make us very young, but intriguing to watch.  They would not be very good, record wise, but that is the direction we want, no---improve, collect more assets, and be in good draft position to use our current wealth of picks!
You just know that if the Rondo's, Wallace's, Thorton's, and Bass's are still on this team that BS is going to play them major minutes, and that's the thing about rebuilding I hate.
Guys like Sully and Zeller are going into their third years and it's where players usually make big leaps in their careers---if they're ever going to.  Excited to see how they play.  Could Sully be the perennial allstar in the making, right before our eyes?  Even KO, when you look at his first year, had a truly GOOD year, comparing it to other stars first seasons!
Anyway, just some of my thoughts on another slow offseason day!

Nice post, one problem:  without knowing who is coming back for all those "tradeable" assets, there is no way to comment. Frankly I think you just want to tank for another year.

Nothing wrong with a player development season, the team tried the quick rebuild and it didn't work out. Trade Bass, let our young guys play and develop.