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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2014, 02:30:02 PM »

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My issue with bringing him in on a "cheap, one year deal" is that even if we do .... so what?  What is the best case scenario here?  He plays well (while we still don't contend) and then hits free agency the next year where we either lose him or overpay for him?  All the while, the development of our real core has been slowed down?

I say if he's a guy that Danny really believes still has the potential to be a real player in the league, then we sign him to a 3 year, $9-12 mil contract to give Turner a real shot at proving that and giving our team some time to actually benefit from it.  (I don't think he is that player)

If Danny doesn't believe he is the real deal, then pass.  I don't even want him at a short deal if the best case scenario is he just leaves in FA the next season or the young celtics core see yet another one of their teammates traded away for a heavily protected draft pick 3 years in the future.
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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2014, 02:32:09 PM »

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My issue with bringing him in on a "cheap, one year deal" is that even if we do .... so what?  What is the best case scenario here?  He plays well (while we still don't contend) and then hits free agency the next year where we either lose him or overpay for him?  All the while, the development of our real core has been slowed down?

I say if he's a guy that Danny really believes still has the potential to be a real player in the league, then we sign him to a 3 year, $9-12 mil contract to give Turner a real shot at proving that and giving our team some time to actually benefit from it.  (I don't think he is that player)

If Danny doesn't believe he is the real deal, then pass.  I don't even want him at a short deal if the best case scenario is he just leaves in FA the next season or the young celtics core see yet another one of their teammates traded away for a heavily protected draft pick 3 years in the future.

No, the best case scenario is he becomes a trade asset at the trade deadline.

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2014, 02:53:17 PM »

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My issue with bringing him in on a "cheap, one year deal" is that even if we do .... so what?  What is the best case scenario here?  He plays well (while we still don't contend) and then hits free agency the next year where we either lose him or overpay for him?  All the while, the development of our real core has been slowed down?

I say if he's a guy that Danny really believes still has the potential to be a real player in the league, then we sign him to a 3 year, $9-12 mil contract to give Turner a real shot at proving that and giving our team some time to actually benefit from it.  (I don't think he is that player)

If Danny doesn't believe he is the real deal, then pass.  I don't even want him at a short deal if the best case scenario is he just leaves in FA the next season or the young celtics core see yet another one of their teammates traded away for a heavily protected draft pick 3 years in the future.

No, the best case scenario is he becomes a trade asset at the trade deadline.

Exactly, think Jordan Crawford....
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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2014, 04:00:39 PM »

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It was Evan Turner. Calling Collect. Please Accept The Charges.

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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2014, 04:25:27 PM »

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I think Evan Turner is underrated. I remember him being solid in the playoffs when the 76ers were good... and he's definitely still talented and still young at 25. Best part, we can get him at a minimum contract. Compared to the washed out talent out there, I think he'd be a solid low risk, high reward contract.

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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2014, 04:50:57 PM »

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I mentioned this in another thread, but the only logical reason why Ainge would sign Turner is if, say, the season was going better than expected haha and Danny was really hoping to tank to get a top draft pick next year (you know, because that's always worked out so well for us).  Suddenly, in a strange mid season move (or in this case, an odd offseason one), Ainge signs or trades for Evan Turner (I honestly didn't think that he was even going to get an offer from one team in the entire league lol).  Our team chemistry would instantly be shot, there would be people calling for Stevens to be fired, and everyone would start playing like crap.  Mission accomplished ;)



Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2014, 05:02:56 PM »

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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2014, 05:17:15 PM »

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A source.

It was Evan Turner. Calling Collect. Please Accept The Charges.

TP for the laugh  :D

Ditto ;D

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2014, 05:32:06 PM »

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Okay, apparently Evan Turner is crazier than I thought?

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2012/03/and-now-a-story-about-evan-turner-being-nuts.html

I thought that he just had anger management problems or something, but I guess that it's something else.  Even if this report is true, being bipolar doesn't mean you're crazy.  I can only hope that he gets the help he needs.

That aside, I'm surprised that Charlotte wouldn't take a flyer on him after missing out on Gordon Hayward.  He'd be another playmaker at the sf spot, and that could actually work out well for both sides because Kemba, imo, is more of a scoring point guard than a facilitator.

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2014, 06:02:39 PM »

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Maybe we should sign him and Oden just to be able to trot out a Buckeye front line ;)

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2014, 06:03:21 PM »

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Okay, apparently Evan Turner is crazier than I thought?

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2012/03/and-now-a-story-about-evan-turner-being-nuts.html

I thought that he just had anger management problems or something, but I guess that it's something else.  Even if this report is true, being bipolar doesn't mean you're crazy.  I can only hope that he gets the help he needs.

That aside, I'm surprised that Charlotte wouldn't take a flyer on him after missing out on Gordon Hayward.  He'd be another playmaker at the sf spot, and that could actually work out well for both sides because Kemba, imo, is more of a scoring point guard than a facilitator.

And isn't that what we need? A playmaker at SF
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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2014, 06:11:49 PM »

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Okay, apparently Evan Turner is crazier than I thought?

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2012/03/and-now-a-story-about-evan-turner-being-nuts.html

I thought that he just had anger management problems or something, but I guess that it's something else.  Even if this report is true, being bipolar doesn't mean you're crazy.  I can only hope that he gets the help he needs.

That aside, I'm surprised that Charlotte wouldn't take a flyer on him after missing out on Gordon Hayward.  He'd be another playmaker at the sf spot, and that could actually work out well for both sides because Kemba, imo, is more of a scoring point guard than a facilitator.

This. There's such a stigma with mental illness in sports, I wonder why any player would want it to be public knowledge. The joking and backlash they get from fans and media can't be conducive to healthy support system.

With that said, it seems as if bipolar is just thrown around whenever someone displays eccentric behavior and/or anger management issues. The article really doesn't refer to any specific evidence that he is actually bipolar. Sounds more like he's just a jerk.
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Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2014, 06:19:55 PM »

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My issue with bringing him in on a "cheap, one year deal" is that even if we do .... so what?  What is the best case scenario here?  He plays well (while we still don't contend) and then hits free agency the next year where we either lose him or overpay for him?  All the while, the development of our real core has been slowed down?

I say if he's a guy that Danny really believes still has the potential to be a real player in the league, then we sign him to a 3 year, $9-12 mil contract to give Turner a real shot at proving that and giving our team some time to actually benefit from it.  (I don't think he is that player)

If Danny doesn't believe he is the real deal, then pass.  I don't even want him at a short deal if the best case scenario is he just leaves in FA the next season or the young celtics core see yet another one of their teammates traded away for a heavily protected draft pick 3 years in the future.

No, the best case scenario is he becomes a trade asset at the trade deadline.

Exactly, think Jordan Crawford....

But Crawford (who played as well as we could have hoped) and Brooks (who was supposedly worth a late first from Minny before the season began) netted us a couple of second round picks and two years of the overpaid Joel Anthony. I love tat Danny is a wheeler and dealer, but we pretty much have Crawford away for nothing - taking on Anthony for the picks.

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2014, 06:25:00 PM »

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The only way this makes sense is if a deal is already in place to trade Green AND we sign him to a low cost three year (or so) deal. He would have the opportunity to prove himself again by giving similar production as Green.

I honestly like the idea if we actually have a plan to trade Green as he should be affordable and productive. I am not overly worried about his attitude.

Re: Celtics (and Minny) reportedly interested in Evan Turner
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2014, 06:37:10 PM »

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Maybe we should sign him and Oden just to be able to trot out a Buckeye front line ;)

not to mention two guys who like to display their merchandise.