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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2014, 02:06:21 AM »

Offline Ogaju

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Rondo is the part of the puzzle that doesn't makes sense to me with the drafting of Smart.  If Rondo had 2 years left on his contract instead of 1 it would make total sense to have Smart playing behind Rondo to learn the league and position. But in the current situation it seems like you have to trade him and get something back to improve the team and then sign a lesser PG until Smart is ready to drive the team full time.

It makes sense to me.

One, when you're picking that high, you should usually draft the best player available.  You don't want to be Portland, who took Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan because they had Jim Paxson coming off his second straight All-Star game appearance as their incumbent shooting guard and rookie Clyde Drexler behind him.

Two, I think Ainge's dream has been to have a three-guard rotation with a combo guard coming off the bench as a SMOY candidate.

MJ was not that far ahead of Bowie in college. That pick only looks bad because of what happened in their respective careers not because Portland made a wrong decision at the time. Bowie was a beat at Kentucky!!!

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2014, 09:08:34 AM »

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It's funny I read all the posts and agree with a lot of them. It doesn't make sense, but we are building so it does, can't force things...

I guess at the end we all hope things shake themselves out. I personally can live with the roster if we can just add a decent defensive center.

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2014, 09:24:08 AM »

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I don't understand what you are worried about. After the Celts sweep through the summer league, the next two weeks of posts will be focused on what one or two assets the team needs to get to the NBA championship next year --  ;D ;D ;D

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2014, 09:46:36 AM »

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So you're saying this team makes no sense... but you're continuing to have patience while the free agent market dries up?

I'm not disagreeing with this.  You both more or less have the same opinion "this team is whack, we will inevitably make a trade".  I was more curious if anyone looked at that roster and said to themselves, "yeah... that fits... no problem".
Of course it fits, you do realize that Rondo, Bradley, Green, Bass, and Sully was the exact same line-up we used year?  Why the sudden uproar?

All we did was add a PG and SG/SF to the bench.  All that really means is we replaced Bayless, who was expiring anyway.  And we ended up with a significantly improved backcourt by replacing Bayless and Pressey.

How does that not make sense?  Why do you feel Danny is no longer capable of making sensible roster moves, do you know of some illness that we don't?  You think he has no vision of what a roster should look like and is just firing from the hip?  I mean, there were all of 2 freakin Centers in the entire first round (both gone by our picks).  Obviously we had to pick somebody.
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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2014, 10:07:58 AM »

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Nope... The direction of this offseason a) makes no sense to me and b) is completely opposite of what I was expecting this far.

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2014, 10:19:17 AM »

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I think that if Ainge can bring in a starting caliber center, this roster will start to make a lot more sense.

Going into the season with the same hole at the five spot as we did last season would make very little sense to me. 
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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2014, 10:19:49 AM »

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when a team sucks (and yes we sucked last season), and they are rebuilding......it is all about collecting as many assets as you can. without a superstar on your roster (rondo is not a superstar), rosters do not always need to make sense, as it is smart to build as many assets as possible to see if anyone pans out and/or to "cash in" and land a star player.  anyone that bought the crap the celts were saying about taking a year or two to rebuild before being back in contention was extremely naive.  when you do not have a team that has a history of landing star free agents, u build through the draft and trades, which takes a lot of time.

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2014, 10:23:03 AM »

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The roster makes perfect sense, in that it is a collection of assets designed to be traded for a singular talent.  Whether or not Ainge is able to pull that off is a different story.

I don't think Ainge is too particularly worried about how his collection of assets 'fit' as far as being a cohesive basketball team.  At least not at this point in time.  Ainge will either be able to trade some of these assets for a star, or he'll continue to collect assets, regardless of what position they play.

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2014, 11:06:22 AM »

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I actually think our roster makes PERFECT sense. 

It's perfect for a rebuilding/tanking team.  A team full of assets that will land in the lottery.

Oh did you think we were trying to contend? We havent flipped that switch, and I dont expect Danny to hire a legit center until we do.

Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2014, 11:43:25 AM »

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The Celtics are a mess.  It's not much fun to watch a tanking team. 

Overpaying for players like Bradley and Green doesn't help the Celtics chances of improving.  Please don't even think of overpaying for Rondo.

A Center has been needed for several years.  But each year its the same story.

Tanking for draft picks saves money I suppose but the Celtics have drafted plenty of clunkers.

Its a matter of time before the fans become really disenchanted.  It is hard to believe that fans will continue to buy tickets when they can turn on league pass and change the channel to see other teams that are capable of winning.

The Lakers are a mess but I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers win a championship again before the Celtics.  Time will tell.
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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2014, 11:52:01 AM »

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Our current roster:

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Young/Bibb
Green/Wallace/Johnson
Bass/Sully
KO/Faverani/Anthony

Plenty of mediocre young talent. I don't think that makes an 8th seed even in the East.
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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2014, 12:35:35 PM »

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I agree with the "it makes sense group." Ainge has structured the roster to be in position for the moves that will get his team into contention.

Much of it is timing....regrettably, I think next summer might be a target for him. We all want a decent team to watch this year, thus "get a center" is a popular refrain. I don't think Ainge cares a great deal about the center position right now. He can't get the "championship guy" now so, he won't get anybody.

Thus, in an effort to "make sense" of the roster? Ainge does not want to win a lot of games. He wants to be in position to get the "build around guy(s)."

My concern with Ainge and Kevin Love is that Love isn't an Auerbach kind of player(I would like to get Love BTW). His game is tilted to offense and Auerbach would have to balance his other four guys with defense. Asik, perhaps, wasn't the right type of player for Ainge either, but, it may have been more about timing.

I think we can all be hopeful about Marcus Smart. He is, in fact, an Auerbach type. He is a fighter and a courageous defender, this is the correct type to build around. Hopefully he will develop well and keep his head.

Olynyk is s superb offensive piece. 7 footers with his passing and scoring ability are rare.

Ainge has two good "chances" with these players. They might or might not be "championship caliber." Time will tell.

The rest? The roster makes all the sense in the world because Ainge doesn't need wins, he needs a chance at two stars and he will trot out a centerless team of "complementary players and college all stars" in order to be in position to get them.


Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2014, 02:56:32 PM »

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Oh yeah, you forgot about FAV. So we DO have a center....Kinda....  ;D

We have two centers, Faverani and Anthony.

anthony is GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2014, 02:59:01 PM »

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I don't understand what you are worried about. After the Celts sweep through the summer league, the next two weeks of posts will be focused on what one or two assets the team needs to get to the NBA championship next year --  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Does this team make any sense to anyone?
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2014, 04:14:37 PM »

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Our current roster:

Rondo/Smart/Pressey
Bradley/Young/Bibb
Green/Wallace/Johnson
Bass/Sully
KO/Faverani/Anthony

Plenty of mediocre young talent. I don't think that makes an 8th seed even in the East.

You forgot the potential for Colton Iverson to make the team.