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Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2014, 06:07:13 PM »

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And the "Doesn't have the medical reports' thing is a bunch of crap.  The teams that didn't get the medical reports will just buy them from the teams that did.   You aren't going to send it to 6 teams and expect it to remain secret what's inside.

  I wouldn't be surprised if you could get sent to prison for selling medical records, not to mention opening yourself up for a major lawsuit.

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2014, 06:09:40 PM »

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Both Amick and Sherrod are saying that we may trade down if we are looking to trade.  Wonder what the play there would be.
Taking Gordon #6 is probably too high.  Prob trade down to get him at #10 or something + pick up a 2nd.
there no way gordon is there after 7 let alone 8.
You sure?  Nbadraft.net has him going 10th.  Not that nbadraft.net is an authority, but still...

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2014, 06:09:57 PM »

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And the "Doesn't have the medical reports' thing is a bunch of crap.  The teams that didn't get the medical reports will just buy them from the teams that did.   You aren't going to send it to 6 teams and expect it to remain secret what's inside.

  I wouldn't be surprised if you could get sent to prison for selling medical records, not to mention opening yourself up for a major lawsuit.

You can get into major trouble. It's a serious HIPPA violation.
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Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2014, 06:10:27 PM »

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And the "Doesn't have the medical reports' thing is a bunch of crap.  The teams that didn't get the medical reports will just buy them from the teams that did.   You aren't going to send it to 6 teams and expect it to remain secret what's inside.

  I wouldn't be surprised if you could get sent to prison for selling medical records, not to mention opening yourself up for a major lawsuit.
It's been reported that the buying/selling of medical records between teams is a common practice. 

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2014, 06:14:41 PM »

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It's amazing to me that so many are willing to risk such a high pick on a guy who has a GREAT chance of never being healthy. I'd really be frustrated if we take Embiid and he's Greg Oden 2.0. This entire year would have been for naught.


Wait, what are we risking.  At 6, presumably Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Smart, and one of Gordon/Vonleh/Randle are off the board. 
At 6, we are risking not drafting whichever two players of Gordon/Vonleh/Randle/Smart are still on the board.  At 3, your risking not picking 4 of those guys.

Gordon is going to have a long, solid, but not spectacular NBA career, as is Smart.  Randle could make some all star teams.  Vonleh might too.  I don't see any one of those 4 as a centerpiece on championship team. All could be solid rotation players, a couple starters but none the go to guy.  Whereas Exum, Wiggins, and Parker can all be that guy.  To me the risk is minimal at 6.

Food for thought: This model gives Marcus Smart a 32% chance of becoming a "star" (2nd only to Embiid and this model doesn't reflect his health woes).  It gives Gordon a 27% chance, which is equal to Wiggins.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aipd_3kGfREgdHRtcThFd3ZtMlRPYldIRmdGb241RlE&usp=drive_web#gid=9

It's also important to consider that Smart and Gordon are extremely unlikely to flame out- their absolute floor is solid role-players who will have trade value. There's a significant risk of Embiid being utterly worthless as an asset in a few years.

  The closest comparison to Smart based on his numbers (if I read that right) was Rodrick Rhodes. Yowzers.

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2014, 06:17:19 PM »

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And the "Doesn't have the medical reports' thing is a bunch of crap.  The teams that didn't get the medical reports will just buy them from the teams that did.   You aren't going to send it to 6 teams and expect it to remain secret what's inside.

  I wouldn't be surprised if you could get sent to prison for selling medical records, not to mention opening yourself up for a major lawsuit.
It's been reported that the buying/selling of medical records between teams is a common practice.

  I'd like to see a link to that. If that was the case then who gets to see Embiid's medical records wouldn't be at all newsworthy.

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2014, 06:32:07 PM »

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And the "Doesn't have the medical reports' thing is a bunch of crap.  The teams that didn't get the medical reports will just buy them from the teams that did.   You aren't going to send it to 6 teams and expect it to remain secret what's inside.

  I wouldn't be surprised if you could get sent to prison for selling medical records, not to mention opening yourself up for a major lawsuit.
It's been reported that the buying/selling of medical records between teams is a common practice.

  I'd like to see a link to that. If that was the case then who gets to see Embiid's medical records wouldn't be at all newsworthy.

unless player signs release, that would be illegal.

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2014, 06:32:12 PM »

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I hope we get Embiid and Smart with the 8th

Re: Woj: Celtics in Play for Embiid
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2014, 06:36:16 PM »

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Both Amick and Sherrod are saying that we may trade down if we are looking to trade.  Wonder what the play there would be.

I'd be okay drafting 10th and getting McDermott or Gary Harris if we got something really good on top of it, but Charolette, 76ers and Magic aren't that great of trading partners.  Maybe if the Nuggets gave us Mozgov + the 11th for 6?  Or an unprotected 1st next year?

I'd take Mckbuckets!!