@17....?

[CM0]

Instead of starting a separate thread, I hope the OP won't mind if I mention some trade down possibilities from #17.

Somebody might fall in love with Zach Lavine or Gary Harris or James Young or Rodney Hood or something, somebody still available at 17.

OKC has picks 21 and 29, and there will still be plenty of talent there at those spots.

CHA has picks 23 and 35.

Phoenix has 18 and 27.

Chicago has 19 and 49.

Toronto has 20 and 37, that's not bad.

Milwaukee has 31, 36, and 48

PHI has 32, 39, 47, and 52.

There's a lot of trade down options.

The Phoenix, Chicago and Toronto options make sense if the Celtics have a target guy they think will still be available or if they have 3-4 guys on a tier and also have a target for later on.

That being said, my preferred realistic picks at #17 (assuming no shocking slips) are:

1) Saric- no brainer here at 17.
2-3) Tie: Warren and Nurkic
4) Young
5) Anderson

That being said, if we draft Gordon I would give priority to Nurkic or wings that can play the 2 (Young). While you always want to take best available, opportunity matters A LOT in terms of whether a player will ever reach or approach their ceiling. There are only so many minutes to go around and I assume that Gordon will at least be developed as a 3.

[Wedman#8]

1.  TJ Warren
2.  KJ McDaniels

[Future Celtics Owner]

would take one of the swingmen that figure to be available.  would avoid Payne like the plague.

Why Payne is good.

[loco_91]

I would love to get a shooting wing (a 3 and D guy). Wish Rodney Hood would slip, and that we could play him as a big 2.

Just let's talk about 17 ITT. No trades, assuming we keep the pick.

Rodney Hood a 3 and D guy, lol. Well, he may be a 3 guy...

I'm hoping for Tyler Ennis, Clint Capela, or KJ McDaniels. KJ will fit the 3&D mold, especially the D part. Capela gives us our rim protector, and he has some offensive upside too.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Depending on availability. (and Im working on the assumption that Nurkic has already been selected)

1. Saric
2. Warren
3. Capela
4. Hairston
5. Young

[loco_91]

I really want TJ Warren here.  I believe he is going to be a legit scorer in the NBA that will be able to score from midrange to the basket.  He boards.  He moves very well off ball.  With size AND a floater (which is an awesome combo, his floater is Wade like).  His shot looks a bit weird but it just goes in.  He could very possibly have NBA range already.

I would love to see him in transition with Rondo and we could really use scoring.  He has natural scoring instincts and gets off shots that are more like something you'd see from an NBA vet.  I don't remember seeing a college player his size use floaters like he does.  It's impressive and should translate well.

Warren has serious problems that demote him to the late first round. A one-dimensional scorer, he has an outstanding knack for finishing near the rim despite his poor length and athleticism. He lacks a polished spot-up game, and shot under 30% from three. As a defender, he is a tweener; he has PF height but not length, and he lacks SF quicks. He does not make up for his lack of tools with either effort or fundamentals, and he also rebounds poorly.

Warren does have a unique skillset, as he finishes at a shockingly high rate around the rim given his tools. He has the best floater of anyone in the class. But he will need a more all-around offensive game to make his defense palatable.

[loco_91]

I am hoping someone like Capela, Nurkic or T.Ennis slips and ends up here.

+1 for all three

[DraftSmart33]

I'm thinking TJ Warren or PJ Hairston.  If Saric is available Ainge will grab him.

[RyNye]

My dream pick at the spot is Kyle Anderson. I think he is going to be a solid starter in the league, a Gordon Hayward 2.0. But I doubt he falls to 17.

Otherwise, my picks would be Shapazz Napier, T.J. McDaniels, and Efrid Payton. EDIT: I forgot about the foreigners Capela and Nurkic. I like them, too. I think I like them more than McDaniels, but not as much as Napier or Anderson.

I'm not a fan of Warren, Payne, Hood, or Grant, who are all projected around that spot.

I'd always be fine with a real curve-ball (and projected 2nd-rounders) like Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarnell Stokes, or Khem Birch.

I don't really know much about Saric, to be honest, besides the hype. Since he is staying overseas I don't particularly want to spend a pick on him, I'd rather see how he develops in-house.

[Dog_Lover106]

I really want TJ Warren here.  I believe he is going to be a legit scorer in the NBA that will be able to score from midrange to the basket.  He boards.  He moves very well off ball.  With size AND a floater (which is an awesome combo, his floater is Wade like).  His shot looks a bit weird but it just goes in.  He could very possibly have NBA range already.

I would love to see him in transition with Rondo and we could really use scoring.  He has natural scoring instincts and gets off shots that are more like something you'd see from an NBA vet.  I don't remember seeing a college player his size use floaters like he does.  It's impressive and should translate well.

Warren has serious problems that demote him to the late first round. A one-dimensional scorer, he has an outstanding knack for finishing near the rim despite his poor length and athleticism. He lacks a polished spot-up game, and shot under 30% from three. As a defender, he is a tweener; he has PF height but not length, and he lacks SF quicks. He does not make up for his lack of tools with either effort or fundamentals, and he also rebounds poorly.

Warren does have a unique skillset, as he finishes at a shockingly high rate around the rim given his tools. He has the best floater of anyone in the class. But he will need a more all-around offensive game to make his defense palatable.

You are kidding right? I have seen TJ Warren play over 25 times in person, which was easy to do if you live in New England and have a car. This "scouting report" is way off base. Why bother stating this stuff as if it is some kind of fact? Have you seen TJ play? Didn't think so.....

[Dog_Lover106]

I really want TJ Warren here.  I believe he is going to be a legit scorer in the NBA that will be able to score from midrange to the basket.  He boards.  He moves very well off ball.  With size AND a floater (which is an awesome combo, his floater is Wade like).  His shot looks a bit weird but it just goes in.  He could very possibly have NBA range already.

I would love to see him in transition with Rondo and we could really use scoring.  He has natural scoring instincts and gets off shots that are more like something you'd see from an NBA vet.  I don't remember seeing a college player his size use floaters like he does.  It's impressive and should translate well.

You would be correct. Warren is already a good shooter despite the continuous cut and paste scouting report posts here about what a terrible shooter he is. He has deep NBA range now.

His elbow sticks out yes, but his form is pretty close to Durant's. His dad played at NC State too and TJ is tight with David West and his brother. Each has said publically, that no way are they going to mess with his form, as he just makes shots.

Warren played 35 or so games here in New England two years ago and I saw him go up against the best 19u competition in the world. He can score with anybody and people who says he un-athletic or can't shoot have simply not seen him play.

[RyNye]

Warren is already a good shooter despite the continuous cut and paste scouting report posts here about what a terrible shooter he is. He has deep NBA range now.

He shoots 26.7% from deep. So ... no, he does not have "deep NBA range". He can't even knock down 3s at the college level at a rate that is anything but abysmal. He's also a bad free throw shooter. And a bad passer. (On the other hand, he is good rebounder and defender).

He can score with anybody and people who says he un-athletic or can't shoot have simply not seen him play.

Or, you know, we are looking at his numbers and seeing they are terrible. It doesn't matter how pretty he looked one time you saw him in person if over the course of a season his percentages regress to 26.7%.

He's a bad shooter. Get over it.

[Mr October]

I think the Celtics take Anderson here.

But I do like the idea of taking Hood here though.

The only guy in this range that i dont like here is Payne. He is way to redundant of what we have with Sully, Kelly and Bass.

[knuckleballer]

Draft Express and Chad Ford both have the Celtics taking Saric.  That would be a home run.  I think it's a positive that he's staying in Europe for two years.  He'll be better at 22 than 20 and he'll be under his rookie contract until he's 26 rather than 24.

[footey]

would take one of the swingmen that figure to be available.  would avoid Payne like the plague.

Why?  I think he is excellent value at 17.  6'10", long, athletic, excellent shooter with great range.  I'd grab him at 17 but doubt he'll be there.