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Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2014, 10:56:04 PM »

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^^^ That is until we land Love.  KG wasn't thinking about Boston as well before Judas came to town.  I truly believe that once the domino of Love falls, everything else is [dang] near piece of cake.  No way Melo would see a tandem of Rondo and Love (and BS to a lesser extent) and not take a second look at the Celtics.

How do we get him though? Won't we need to create the cap space tied into Gerald Wallace? Lol

It would have to be through a sign and trade.  Even if we got Love we just may have as much assets to throw at the Knicks as the Rockets or Bulls.  Then Melo would have to decide if he likes a Rondo/Love, Harden/Howard, or Rose/ Noah tandem the best to join.   Very interesting.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2014, 11:19:03 PM »

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This doesn't mean anything. Of course he opted out. Anyone could have told you that a year ago. The way the CBA is currently structured it is ALWAYS in a player's best interest to opt out in this situation because he will get more money. This doesn't necessarily mean he is leaving the Knicks; even if he had no intention of leaving he still would have opted out then signed a bigger contract. This isn't to say he definitely isn't leaving. But anybody who follows the way the CBA works will tell you that this is not at all a surprise and doesn't mean anything vis a vis him leaving New York. It's still a mystery.

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I hope this dynamic doesn't catch on too much. The NBA will end up with 3 or 4 superpowers. That will be terrible for the league.

Why? The league seemed to do pretty well in the '80s. Hell, the league is doing pretty well right now and there are only three teams that could be charitably described as superpowers (OKC, San Antonio, Miami). So ... yeah, what are you talking about? Unless you are under the impression that Indiana, Houston, or Golden State constitute as superpowers.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2014, 11:40:53 PM »

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This doesn't mean anything. Of course he opted out. Anyone could have told you that a year ago. The way the CBA is currently structured it is ALWAYS in a player's best interest to opt out in this situation because he will get more money. This doesn't necessarily mean he is leaving the Knicks; even if he had no intention of leaving he still would have opted out then signed a bigger contract. This isn't to say he definitely isn't leaving. But anybody who follows the way the CBA works will tell you that this is not at all a surprise and doesn't mean anything vis a vis him leaving New York. It's still a mystery.

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I hope this dynamic doesn't catch on too much. The NBA will end up with 3 or 4 superpowers. That will be terrible for the league.

Why? The league seemed to do pretty well in the '80s. Hell, the league is doing pretty well right now and there are only three teams that could be charitably described as superpowers (OKC, San Antonio, Miami). So ... yeah, what are you talking about? Unless you are under the impression that Indiana, Houston, or Golden State constitute as superpowers.
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My response was directly related to a post about the collusion of All-Stars, so they could form super teams. That has nothing to do with what the league looked like in the 80's. Terrible comparison. IMO I don't think it's healthy for the league to have that be the norm. Superstars drive the league but healthy competition and parity would benefit the Association.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2014, 12:01:23 AM »

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This doesn't mean anything. Of course he opted out. Anyone could have told you that a year ago. The way the CBA is currently structured it is ALWAYS in a player's best interest to opt out in this situation because he will get more money. This doesn't necessarily mean he is leaving the Knicks; even if he had no intention of leaving he still would have opted out then signed a bigger contract. This isn't to say he definitely isn't leaving. But anybody who follows the way the CBA works will tell you that this is not at all a surprise and doesn't mean anything vis a vis him leaving New York. It's still a mystery.

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I hope this dynamic doesn't catch on too much. The NBA will end up with 3 or 4 superpowers. That will be terrible for the league.

Why? The league seemed to do pretty well in the '80s. Hell, the league is doing pretty well right now and there are only three teams that could be charitably described as superpowers (OKC, San Antonio, Miami). So ... yeah, what are you talking about? Unless you are under the impression that Indiana, Houston, or Golden State constitute as superpowers.
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My response was directly related to a post about the collusion of All-Stars, so they could form super teams. That has nothing to do with what the league looked like in the 80's. Terrible comparison. IMO I don't think it's healthy for the league to have that be the norm. Superstars drive the league but healthy competition and parity would benefit the Association.

I have no problem with a set of contenders or near-contenders, the favorites of each conference = 8 teams out of 30 (top 4 seeds in each).

I have no problem with a set of teams that are in the middle of the pack, hopefully going one way or the other.

And I have no problem with a few young rebuilding teams.

When teams can't move from one status to the next for a long time, that's not good.  Every franchise can hopefully put together a squad that makes some noise at least every 10 years or so.

That'd probably be pretty good.

Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2014, 01:01:52 AM »

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Say we traded #6, #17, Sully, Bogans, Bass, Clippers Pick to for Love...

Would a Wallace and/or S&T w/ Hump, Green, Celts '15, Nets '16 get us Melo? If he is 'signing' w/ the Knicks, he can make 20+ million per year - so whatever the agreed upon salary is would drive the filler.

Could we still get Asik with the TPE and the philly pick (after stealing Melo from Houston)?

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Re: Carmelo Anthony to opt out
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2014, 01:33:28 AM »

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Say we traded #6, #17, Sully, Bogans, Bass, Clippers Pick to for Love...

Would a Wallace and/or S&T w/ Hump, Green, Celts '15, Nets '16 get us Melo? If he is 'signing' w/ the Knicks, he can make 20+ million per year - so whatever the agreed upon salary is would drive the filler.

Could we still get Asik with the TPE and the philly pick (after stealing Melo from Houston)?

I think the Love trade could be possible with KO added into it.

The Knicks wouldn't happen, because Melo is going to opt out. I don't think he'll come here.

If we got Melo, Rockets would never ever give us Asik, and why would they?
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