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can Rondo play in the Spurs system?
« on: June 14, 2014, 10:41:39 AM »

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The Heat and especially the Spurs play a total team basketball game.  Everyone is involved and nobody has or pounds the ball for more than 5 sec.

Rondo on the other hand has the ball usually in his possession for 10 sec or more, before letting the ball go (sometimes asking for it back). So if rondo played for the spurs could he adapt and succeed in their system?

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 10:44:42 AM »

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Can the spurs play in rondo's system? his playstyle is so unique that i would consider it its own system.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 10:46:52 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 11:00:54 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 11:01:13 AM »

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Not as effectively, no. Whether you love Rondo or not, the fact is he's not a good shooter and suffers offensively when the ball is out of his hands.

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 11:05:06 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone having an agenda and this thread will mostly turn into everyone trying to convince him he's wrong when his mind is already made up.

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 11:08:52 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone having an agenda and this thread will mostly turn into everyone trying to convince him he's wrong when his mind is already made up.

More than just the guy who made this thread feel this way about Rondo though, all I'm saying.  It's always been like that.

I personally think it would be better, still saying Tony Parker is a great player in his own right.  They have enough shooters otherwise and they get the best passer in the league, a better defender and rebounder in the exchange?  A guy who is clutch in the playoffs too?  They can do without one shooter.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 11:11:12 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone having an agenda and this thread will mostly turn into everyone trying to convince him he's wrong when his mind is already made up.

What is the problem? It's a discussion

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2014, 11:14:27 AM »

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The Heat and especially the Spurs play a total team basketball game.  Everyone is involved and nobody has or pounds the ball for more than 5 sec.

Rondo on the other hand has the ball usually in his possession for 10 sec or more, before letting the ball go (sometimes asking for it back). So if rondo played for the spurs could he adapt and succeed in their system?

  If you check out the player tracking data on nba.com Rondo's average possession lasted just under 5 seconds. Parker was at 4.8 during the season and just over 5 seconds in the playoffs. So when he has the ball in his hands it's generally for the same amount of time as Rondo. And, just out of curiosity, why does getting the ball back after you pass it to someone else disqualify you from the Spurs offense? Do they have some rule against the same player touching the ball more than once in a possession?

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2014, 11:16:53 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone having an agenda and this thread will mostly turn into everyone trying to convince him he's wrong when his mind is already made up.

More than just the guy who made this thread feel this way about Rondo though, all I'm saying.  It's always been like that.

I personally think it would be better, still saying Tony Parker is a great player in his own right.  They have enough shooters otherwise and they get the best passer in the league, a better defender and rebounder in the exchange?  A guy who is clutch in the playoffs too?  They can do without one shooter.

Rondo has better passing skills than Parker but Parker is willing to share the ball distribution duties more. Actually alot more. Sometimes he only has 5 assists but his secondary assist totals (if there is such a stat) would be much higher. I think so far in this Heat series Diaw has looked like the pg for the Spurs.

Even though Rondo has little confidence in his shot, he could still be effective. Though it's hard to be for sure bc everyone on the Spurs team can shoot (or has learned to). 

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2014, 11:18:16 AM »

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It's pretty much the same reason he was going to get cut on Team USA, he simply needs to ball in his hands to be effective. A lot of players are like this though, not just Rondo.

On a side-note, how much fun would Rondo vs Pop be? Instant drama.

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2014, 11:19:10 AM »

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Not as effectively, no. Whether you love Rondo or not, the fact is he's not a good shooter and suffers offensively when the ball is out of his hands.

  You'd have to weigh that against Rondo's superior passing skills.

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2014, 11:20:46 AM »

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The Heat and especially the Spurs play a total team basketball game.  Everyone is involved and nobody has or pounds the ball for more than 5 sec.

Rondo on the other hand has the ball usually in his possession for 10 sec or more, before letting the ball go (sometimes asking for it back). So if rondo played for the spurs could he adapt and succeed in their system?

  If you check out the player tracking data on nba.com Rondo's average possession lasted just under 5 seconds. Parker was at 4.8 during the season and just over 5 seconds in the playoffs. So when he has the ball in his hands it's generally for the same amount of time as Rondo. And, just out of curiosity, why does getting the ball back after you pass it to someone else disqualify you from the Spurs offense? Do they have some rule against the same player touching the ball more than once in a possession?

no. But Rondo if he is pounding endlessly sometimes, he will ask someone like Bass to come to him , drop off the ball and ask for it again.   Maybe the issue is that he knows Bass can't pass a lick .

Rondo has played Spurs like basketball from 2007-2011 (especially 2007 when we won). In those times his assist totals under 10.  After that it was over 10 but we saw him having the ball in his hands much longer. 

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2014, 11:22:47 AM »

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I haven't been here that long but I already see how this thread plays out.

There have been a lot of threads about Rondo's shooting before, and building teams around him because he can't shoot, for reference.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone having an agenda and this thread will mostly turn into everyone trying to convince him he's wrong when his mind is already made up.

What is the problem? It's a discussion

not a thing, it just seems like a loaded question. with a lot of goading behind it. I got it pretty early on signing on here - you don't like rondo.

with that said i'll agree with you that rondo likely would not fit in San Antonio. specifically because he's not the outside shooter parker is.


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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2014, 11:24:39 AM »

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It's pretty much the same reason he was going to get cut on Team USA, he simply needs to ball in his hands to be effective. A lot of players are like this though, not just Rondo.

On a side-note, how much fun would Rondo vs Pop be? Instant drama.

Rondo could not stand up to Pop just like he couldn't really to Doc (until beginning of 2012).   When we needed another coach bc Doc left i was not too happy with the hiring of BS.  Not easy for a non experience NBA coach to get an all star player to change his game, especially a player like Rondo.

I wish we had POPs, he is a great great coach and his sytem works to perfection. Nobody is above the system