Sully working on his body

[Clench123]

I remember when Big Baby was "working on his body" too.

Lol

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm twice as old a Sully , don't make millions ...to stay fit

But I'm  in in the gym every other day.

These guys .....just have it made

And don't realize it.

[SHAQATTACK]

I remember when Big Baby was "working on his body" too.

Lol

Big Baby .....did his heavy lifting at. ...at the KFC buffet ...not the gym.

[Adelaide Celt]

If Sullinger can get his weight down then he's earned the right to no longer be compared to Big Baby Davis IMO.

[crimson_stallion]

Deja vu all over again

True, but to be fair, he spent a lot of time on the couch recuperating from back surgery.

Marquis and Pietrus spent a lot of time in hospital nursing a spinal injury and a significant concussion that left them both carried out on stretchers.

They still came back to Boston in great shape.

The injury is not an excuse.  I've known very few NBA players who have missed significant time due to injuries,  and then came back in very poor condition.  Most players who were in poor condition after an injury were already in questionable shape before the injury - Sully is one such example.

I don't expect silly to come back looking like Hump or Brandon Bass, but if he can at least come back looking like Paul Pierce from 5 years ago I'll be impressed. Oh,  and if he stops bricking ill advised three point shots.

Sully is always going to be a solid contributer on any team because he's just too intelligent and skilled not to be.  But if he doesn't improve his mobility / agility and his conditioning then hes going to limit himself to a ceiling of a nice role player or a good sixth man.  Hes not going to be a major impact player on a team until he can get himself in professorship shape. This is not college where most bigs are 220lbs, and he can just use his weight to go straight through opponents.  This is the  Nba.  If he doesn't come back in better shape this season,  iv hope Danny can ship him out for a value big who will. Maybe send him out for Josh Smith or on a package for Gortat.

Hes no use to Boston of he's always in foul trouble and doesn't have the conditioning to finish games.

[Celtics4ever]

THE BAD:

Jared Sullinger

Despite significant improvement, Sullinger still had 10.7% body fat. That?s not DeMarcus Cousins or Dexter Pittman level, but he should probably order the medium next time.

His 31-inch max vertical was sixth-worst, but his 7?1″ wingspan gives him a solid max vertical reach. And the dude is sloooooow. Like, Peyton Manning slow. He was dead-last in lane agility, with the same time as the laterally-challenged Brook Lopez and JaVale McGee. He was also dead last in sprints. And despite all the talk about his overwhelming strength, his nine bench-press repetitions weren?t overly impressive.

Sullinger also refuted my sneaking suspicion that he?s a dead ringer for Kevin Love athletically, as Love?s combine numbers were much more impressive than Sullinger?s.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/nba-draft-combine-results/

Losers

Kelly Olynyk 24.5" no-step vert, 29.5" max vert, 3.59 sprint, 5 bench reps

Watching Olynyk try to get off of the ground is not a pretty sight. He was not known as an athlete and has a skill package that makes up for it in some ways. He also had a solid time in the lane agility, which at least could point to a possible display of lateral quickness, though his straight line speed is well below average. Also, measuring with a wingspan under 6-10, his lack of reps on the bench press could point to major issues as far as upper body strength. By no means did Olynyk kill himself at the combine and he still has the makings of a potential top 20 pick in this draft. The bottom line is, these numbers did not really do him any favors as far as how he may adjust to facing the speed and strength in the NBA's trenches.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

Both of these guys have lots of room to improve.   Sully looks a lot stronger than  9 reps.    He will improve quickly in this area.  185 is really about endurance as it is a measly weight to lift.   I did the NFL weight 225 lbs 28 times in my 20s and I am 6'7" guy with 6'11" arms.   
Oly is weak for a man his size and will benefit greatly but he is finesse player but you can be finesse and strong.   Good news is as poorly as they did in the tests that they will improve quickly.   I think Sully could be brutal strong, cut body fat if he just dedicated himself.  If you train right it does not affect speed, look at NFL linebackers.  They are built can run and jump.  Ben Wallace is another great example.   Sully has a big bottom so he is a pear guy and will never be a mesomorph like Wallace.  Sully look like  Endomorphs.  Oly is a mix of Ectomorph and Endomorph. 

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/body-types-ectomorph-mesomorph-endomorph.html

Then again what do people expect him to say, I am becoming a slug while waiting to be traded to Minny?

[Fred Roberts]

Sully won't be like baby, but he's also never losing
That rear end. He's gotta just work on what's he's got and make the most of
His attributes. The big booty is likely here to stay and will be useful on the block

[Emmette Bryant]

He has his 1st full off-season and a promised return to his best suited position.

The extra weight he carried was almost a necessity to consistently bang around with 280+ pound behemoths. Those pounds helped protect him from a devastating injury, as a player recovering from a debilitating back injury/surgery. He voluntarily attended last season's Summer League despite being in rehabilitation, is quoted as wanting to participate in this upcoming summer league, and is reported as constantly being at the Celtics' facility. This kid is a basketball fiend and will be one of those players that improve from year to year.

He's going to shed at least 20 pounds during the off-season and still be one of the strongest PFs at 22. He was one of the best offensive rebounders in the league despite having to battle the biggest, strongest players from opposing teams.

I can see Sully averaging 15-10 or 18-9 (if he's shooting at league average 3P%).

TP for being an optimist.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Wasn't there an interview with Sully just a few weeks ago saying his ankle was still badly swollen, with a ankle sprain that bad for a big dude I'm sure he wasn't doing too much until probably recently as he has had a chance to heal.

Sully already gave us 15/8 out of good shape... I can see it goung nowhere but up if he truly commits himself. With that said, people act like 15/8 is nothing and that's not even a guy at his best.

[BballTim]

Deja vu all over again

True, but to be fair, he spent a lot of time on the couch recuperating from back surgery.

Marquis and Pietrus spent a lot of time in hospital nursing a spinal injury and a significant concussion that left them both carried out on stretchers.

They still came back to Boston in great shape.

The injury is not an excuse.  I've known very few NBA players who have missed significant time due to injuries,  and then came back in very poor condition.  Most players who were in poor condition after an injury were already in questionable shape before the injury - Sully is one such example.

  The guys you listed didn't come back to basketball from injury in markedly different shape than they were before the injury, neither did Sully. That doesn't really mean much. However, we're hoping to see Sully come back in better shape. That didn't happen and it's likely because of the injury. It's not unusual for young players to come into the league in "not so great shape". It's also not unusual for them to get into shape after they enter the league. That generally happens over the summer, not during the season (unless they aren't playing).

  A couple of examples of this are Perk and Big Al. Neither of them were in good shape when they entered the league. Al got into shape over the summer of one of his early years. Perk got somewhat into shape as a rookie because he never played, after that mainly in the summer. We'd expect Sully to follow the "Big Al" model of working on his body during the offseason. This didn't happen last year because of the back surgery.

  Long story short, the examples you're providing aren't really related to Sully. It's not a given that he will get into better shape but if he's going to the fact that he hasn't yet is to be expected.

[erisred]

Well, maybe he'll even be able to show off his new form in a Celtics uniform.  I'd Love for Sully to transform his body this summer and be a 20/10 beast next year...wouldn't we all?

[DraftSmart33]

This guy is never going to loose the weight.  I have little faith he'll ever reach his ceiling and see him battling injuries his entire career.

[fandrew]

I would like to know how long Sully has been working on his physical transformation. Did he just start, or has he been working out since shortly after the end of the season? If this has been a month and a half long process so far, I would like to see what he has accomplished so far. I think that keeping people updated would both give some level of reassurance to both fan and team (of course the team is getting updates though), and let other teams know that he will be even better than last year because he is indeed working on himself, and increasing his trade value.

But, yeah. I want to see pictures. I want to see results every few weeks. I want to see a montage of change by the end of the summer, Biggest Loser style.

I see that, I will have more confidence in his ability to work hard to improve; to reach his potential, and possibly go beyond what we see as his potential.

That said, if he transforms himself and is still anything but a 20/10 player next year, I will be disappointed.

Really?  A 20/10 player is your threshold for not being disappointed?  There were only 5 of those in the NBA last year.  You should prepare to be disappointed.

Yup. That is my threshold for not being disappointed in Sully. I believe he could be that good if he was in shape playing at the Power Forward position. I think if he actually had an offseason last year to get into shape he would have been a 17/10 guy this year (which would have matched his per 36 minute numbers, as it turns out). But next year, should he return to the Celtics, and with Rondo healthy (another guy who will have no excuse when the season starts) and playing next to an actual legit Center, I absolutely have faith that he could put up numbers with the top guys in his position.

And while I tend to remain ever hopeful and optimistic, I am always prepared to be disappointed.

[Celtics4ever]

I'm sure he wasn't doing too much until probably recently as he has had a chance to heal.

And therein lies the problem, he could have been working the upper body, etc.

[Future Celtics Owner]

THE BAD:

Jared Sullinger

Despite significant improvement, Sullinger still had 10.7% body fat. That?s not DeMarcus Cousins or Dexter Pittman level, but he should probably order the medium next time.

His 31-inch max vertical was sixth-worst, but his 7?1″ wingspan gives him a solid max vertical reach. And the dude is sloooooow. Like, Peyton Manning slow. He was dead-last in lane agility, with the same time as the laterally-challenged Brook Lopez and JaVale McGee. He was also dead last in sprints. And despite all the talk about his overwhelming strength, his nine bench-press repetitions weren?t overly impressive.

Sullinger also refuted my sneaking suspicion that he?s a dead ringer for Kevin Love athletically, as Love?s combine numbers were much more impressive than Sullinger?s.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/nba-draft-combine-results/

Losers

Kelly Olynyk 24.5" no-step vert, 29.5" max vert, 3.59 sprint, 5 bench reps

Watching Olynyk try to get off of the ground is not a pretty sight. He was not known as an athlete and has a skill package that makes up for it in some ways. He also had a solid time in the lane agility, which at least could point to a possible display of lateral quickness, though his straight line speed is well below average. Also, measuring with a wingspan under 6-10, his lack of reps on the bench press could point to major issues as far as upper body strength. By no means did Olynyk kill himself at the combine and he still has the makings of a potential top 20 pick in this draft. The bottom line is, these numbers did not really do him any favors as far as how he may adjust to facing the speed and strength in the NBA's trenches.

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-analysis

Both of these guys have lots of room to improve.   Sully looks a lot stronger than  9 reps.    He will improve quickly in this area.  185 is really about endurance as it is a measly weight to lift.   I did the NFL weight 225 lbs 28 times in my 20s and I am 6'7" guy with 6'11" arms.   
Oly is weak for a man his size and will benefit greatly but he is finesse player but you can be finesse and strong.   Good news is as poorly as they did in the tests that they will improve quickly.   I think Sully could be brutal strong, cut body fat if he just dedicated himself.  If you train right it does not affect speed, look at NFL linebackers.  They are built can run and jump.  Ben Wallace is another great example.   Sully has a big bottom so he is a pear guy and will never be a mesomorph like Wallace.  Sully look like  Endomorphs.  Oly is a mix of Ectomorph and Endomorph. 

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/body-types-ectomorph-mesomorph-endomorph.html

Then again what do people expect him to say, I am becoming a slug while waiting to be traded to Minny?

Do you think Adrien Payne at #17 would be better than sully and ko?