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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2014, 05:08:13 PM »

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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2014, 05:16:22 PM »

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I'm hoping that they're still working on the AC unit on Sunday, lol

Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2014, 05:16:30 PM »

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I feared the worst and wasn't sure it was a cramp at first last night. After Rondo's injury last season I assume the worst for any injury that "doesn't look too serious" at first. My interest in the series is minimum at best. I don't really care which teams wins, I care more for how one team winning over the other may affect the NBA. That said, I was horrified with the idea of LeBron getting some freak injury and being out of the finals. But alas, this world is crazy and had Duncan gotten a cramp and couldn't play the remaining minutes of the fourth quarter, the world would've sat on his doorstep. When LeBron can't play, the basketball world can't wait to put him under their boot.

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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2014, 05:21:41 PM »

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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2014, 05:28:32 PM »

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lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature adversity of ANY kind

He's such a winy little female dog.

Anybody hear him moaning about how many times he had to go to the bathroom last night, because they pumped him so full of fluids?

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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2014, 05:29:58 PM »

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I feared the worst and wasn't sure it was a cramp at first last night. After Rondo's injury last season I assume the worst for any injury that "doesn't look too serious" at first. My interest in the series is minimum at best. I don't really care which teams wins, I care more for how one team winning over the other may affect the NBA. That said, I was horrified with the idea of LeBron getting some freak injury and being out of the finals. But alas, this world is crazy and had Duncan gotten a cramp and couldn't play the remaining minutes of the fourth quarter, the world would've sat on his doorstep. When LeBron can't play, the basketball world can't wait to put him under their boot.

I give up.



Because LeBron is EVIL, lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1CqCAc2fE

But seriously I don't believe anyone wishes anything bad on him.....it's just a bit....interesting...that he had HEAT cramps.

The good thing is that we can all get a laugh from this. LeBron will recover.

After all, many Laker Fans (and even some Celtics fans, lol) lambasted Pierce for THIS:



So why not LeBron? He ain't special ;D

As long as the techs have the AC working on Sunday (which I'm sure they will), then we can all be witness to LeBron running roughshod over the Spurs that day. He will definitely be looking to re-assert himself.

I put him down for 40-50 pts that day. I really hope the Spurs are rdy on Sunday. He will come out swinging. If the Spurs can withstand LeBron's revenge, then they have a shot to go up 2-0.

Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2014, 05:29:59 PM »

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I don't like the Lebron hating.. Cramping is extremely hard to play with... Don't even tell me Jordan could do that... A flu is different. Yes its hard and painful, but you can play through a flu... A cramp is almost impossible to run with, unless LBJ wants to injure himself, and jeopardize the series.

Also, isn't cramps more prominent in players with more muscle? If Bird got the cramp that game, I seriously doubt he would've played serious minutes...

So much hate on LBJ, but I would love to see people play with cramps in a basketball game.. I got one during my 3rd game in freshman basketball, and it was excruciatingly painful. I played five minutes until my entire body gave up.
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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2014, 06:20:22 PM »

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I think there is no question that under these circumstances that Red would order the AC shut down.  Not sure why the Spurs owners wouldn't strongly consider it.  Is there a league policy regarding building temperature?  Probably is.

I was at old Garden in June - it was a sauna.  Celtics-Bucks. There was nothing like it -- best sports experience I ever had.  Would be great for the game to have this type of gamemanship.  Not cheating, -- all players at the same disadvantage. 

Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2014, 06:45:09 PM »

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Also, isn't cramps more prominent in players with more muscle? If Bird got the cramp that game, I seriously doubt he would've played serious minutes...

Not really, more muscle doesn't affect it that much.   I had a 56" chest, 32" waist, 30" thighs, 21" neck and  and 20" inch arms and calves when I played for the US Army.  I was 6'7" and 6 percent body fat then and when not playing ball I carried the M60 around on and did 26 miles marches as I was in the infantry .   I rarely got cramps because we stayed hydrated and ran every day.  We also had salt tabs and the like.   I walked them off if I did get them but I only got them at night in my feet sometimes.   I never got them in the games, 4 hour practices or army activites like marching.  Some guys got them on the long marches in the heat.   They were not big guys either.   Sprinters who are very muscular are more prone to pulling muscles but not cramping.

Bird would have played with them but Bird would have never got them folks.   He took conditioning seriously after Robey left.   Bird and McHale were so much tougher than LeBron.  Bird played with a fractured eye socket and McHale played on a broken foot.     So yes, Larry would have played.  ( You play a price for playing hurt though down the road, just ask Kevin, I once played with a broken ankle and it kills me 20 years later, my coach loved me, but it was not worth it)  Cramps are painful but it goes away.   You don't generally get them if you eat and drink right, stretch, are in shape and are hydrated.  They need to address this heavily in future half times for him.

Read this one:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2014/06/you_know_who_didnt_cramp_in_extreme_heat_larry_bird.html

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unless LBJ wants to injure himself, and jeopardize the series.

He took himself out and jeopardized the series, It is one game that they could have won it.  Now if they lose the next game it will weight heavy on them.    A lot of this can be chalked up to  the trainer not making his guys hydrate and deal with the heat.  Wet towels on the neck, ice on the neck and oxygen.    He tried a lot of this but only once it happened.   The best way to work with cramps is too prevent them.  I think the team should have used time outs and got him back on the floor.    The bottom line is LeBron played well that game but let his team down when in needed him most.   It was a two point game when he went out and the Spurs smelled the blood in the water and finished them off.   Spoelstra is only as good as his players.   He lost his best player and had no chance.   He is a mouth piece for Riley and not a true coach.   He did not have the experience or ability to better manage this situation.   He also lacks the gravitas/kahunas to call LeBron out or ask him to go back into the game.   

Interesting article on the matter.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/06/06/lebron-james-game-1-cramps-injury-science-genetic/

Some guys are more prone to cramps due to genetic predisposition it says and LeBron has got them often before folks.

If he loses this series now it will be a huge blight on his legacy.

Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2014, 07:47:19 PM »

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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2014, 08:08:05 PM »

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What I do know, Mia will win because of this.

Also Ray threw LeBron under the bus yesterday, talking about what you have to do before games and the day before lol. Basically saying LeBron doesn't hydrate and take care of his body the right way.

I don't have a quote but I saw it pretty late after the game.
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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2014, 08:17:47 PM »

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Also, isn't cramps more prominent in players with more muscle? If Bird got the cramp that game, I seriously doubt he would've played serious minutes...

Not really, more muscle doesn't affect it that much.   I had a 56" chest, 32" waist, 30" thighs, 21" neck and  and 20" inch arms and calves when I played for the US Army.  I was 6'7" and 6 percent body fat then and when not playing ball I carried the M60 around on and did 26 miles marches as I was in the infantry .   I rarely got cramps because we stayed hydrated and ran every day.  We also had salt tabs and the like.   I walked them off if I did get them but I only got them at night in my feet sometimes.   I never got them in the games, 4 hour practices or army activites like marching.  Some guys got them on the long marches in the heat.   They were not big guys either.   Sprinters who are very muscular are more prone to pulling muscles but not cramping.

Bird would have played with them but Bird would have never got them folks.   He took conditioning seriously after Robey left.   Bird and McHale were so much tougher than LeBron.  Bird played with a fractured eye socket and McHale played on a broken foot.     So yes, Larry would have played.  ( You play a price for playing hurt though down the road, just ask Kevin, I once played with a broken ankle and it kills me 20 years later, my coach loved me, but it was not worth it)  Cramps are painful but it goes away.   You don't generally get them if you eat and drink right, stretch, are in shape and are hydrated.  They need to address this heavily in future half times for him.

Read this one:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2014/06/you_know_who_didnt_cramp_in_extreme_heat_larry_bird.html

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unless LBJ wants to injure himself, and jeopardize the series.

He took himself out and jeopardized the series, It is one game that they could have won it.  Now if they lose the next game it will weight heavy on them.    A lot of this can be chalked up to  the trainer not making his guys hydrate and deal with the heat.  Wet towels on the neck, ice on the neck and oxygen.    He tried a lot of this but only once it happened.   The best way to work with cramps is too prevent them.  I think the team should have used time outs and got him back on the floor.    The bottom line is LeBron played well that game but let his team down when in needed him most.   It was a two point game when he went out and the Spurs smelled the blood in the water and finished them off.   Spoelstra is only as good as his players.   He lost his best player and had no chance.   He is a mouth piece for Riley and not a true coach.   He did not have the experience or ability to better manage this situation.   He also lacks the gravitas/kahunas to call LeBron out or ask him to go back into the game.   

Interesting article on the matter.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/06/06/lebron-james-game-1-cramps-injury-science-genetic/

Some guys are more prone to cramps due to genetic predisposition it says and LeBron has got them often before folks.

If he loses this series now it will be a huge blight on his legacy.

You do know that cramps have basically nothing to do with hydration or salt, right?

Per scientists, rather than FanSided articles and anecdotal stories:

http://www.gustrength.com/physiology:muscle-cramps-part-i
http://www.gustrength.com/physiology:history-of-fluid-intake
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Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2014, 08:32:05 PM »

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Also, isn't cramps more prominent in players with more muscle? If Bird got the cramp that game, I seriously doubt he would've played serious minutes...

Not really, more muscle doesn't affect it that much.   I had a 56" chest, 32" waist, 30" thighs, 21" neck and  and 20" inch arms and calves when I played for the US Army.  I was 6'7" and 6 percent body fat then and when not playing ball I carried the M60 around on and did 26 miles marches as I was in the infantry .   I rarely got cramps because we stayed hydrated and ran every day.  We also had salt tabs and the like.   I walked them off if I did get them but I only got them at night in my feet sometimes.   I never got them in the games, 4 hour practices or army activites like marching.  Some guys got them on the long marches in the heat.   They were not big guys either.   Sprinters who are very muscular are more prone to pulling muscles but not cramping.

Bird would have played with them but Bird would have never got them folks.   He took conditioning seriously after Robey left.   Bird and McHale were so much tougher than LeBron.  Bird played with a fractured eye socket and McHale played on a broken foot.     So yes, Larry would have played.  ( You play a price for playing hurt though down the road, just ask Kevin, I once played with a broken ankle and it kills me 20 years later, my coach loved me, but it was not worth it)  Cramps are painful but it goes away.   You don't generally get them if you eat and drink right, stretch, are in shape and are hydrated.  They need to address this heavily in future half times for him.

Read this one:

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2014/06/you_know_who_didnt_cramp_in_extreme_heat_larry_bird.html

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unless LBJ wants to injure himself, and jeopardize the series.

He took himself out and jeopardized the series, It is one game that they could have won it.  Now if they lose the next game it will weight heavy on them.    A lot of this can be chalked up to  the trainer not making his guys hydrate and deal with the heat.  Wet towels on the neck, ice on the neck and oxygen.    He tried a lot of this but only once it happened.   The best way to work with cramps is too prevent them.  I think the team should have used time outs and got him back on the floor.    The bottom line is LeBron played well that game but let his team down when in needed him most.   It was a two point game when he went out and the Spurs smelled the blood in the water and finished them off.   Spoelstra is only as good as his players.   He lost his best player and had no chance.   He is a mouth piece for Riley and not a true coach.   He did not have the experience or ability to better manage this situation.   He also lacks the gravitas/kahunas to call LeBron out or ask him to go back into the game.   

Interesting article on the matter.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/06/06/lebron-james-game-1-cramps-injury-science-genetic/

Some guys are more prone to cramps due to genetic predisposition it says and LeBron has got them often before folks.

If he loses this series now it will be a huge blight on his legacy.

You do know that cramps have basically nothing to do with hydration or salt, right?

Per scientists, rather than FanSided articles and anecdotal stories:

http://www.gustrength.com/physiology:muscle-cramps-part-i
http://www.gustrength.com/physiology:history-of-fluid-intake
WebMD and my doctor friend disagree with you.

Re: lebron's greatest weakness: hot temperature
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BTW, wasn't Lebron famously saying just before the game that everyone on his team had to play that game like it was Game 7?

So I guess Lebron's team mates know that if Game 7 comes around and so does a cramp they can rely on Lebron not being there.

Also, I distinctly remember being at games where Bird was in so much back pain he couldn't sit when out of the game. Back pain is about the worst pain there is besides a guy passing a huge kidney stone or a woman giving birth. Yeah, Larry played through it.