NBA hypocrite MUCH?

[Ogaju]

Have I ever challenged your right to express your views? Give your censorship a rest.

This is just a straw man argument because you feel threatened that being racist could have financial consequences for people.  Plain and simple.  You've been making these arguments every chance you've gotten for the last month.  It's gotten tiring.

You are not too tired to respond to my posts. Prove you are tired and ignore my post, but you cant can you?

[Roy H.]

Enough bickering.  Get back on topic, please.

[Ogaju]

While we're at it, the League should force Silver to step down so he can be replaced with a black guy!

Tell me that the NBA has constituted does not fit a lot of historical stereotypes.

[D.o.s.]

While we're at it, the League should force Silver to step down so he can be replaced with a black guy!

Tell me that the NBA has constituted does not fit a lot of historical stereotypes.

For sure. The NBA's evolved along with changing social attitudes. What's the problem?

[kozlodoev]

Enough bickering.  Get back on topic, please.

The topic at hand being an original poster protesting against supposed racism with clearly racist arguments? I can see how this discussion can only go well...

[Roy H.]

Enough bickering.  Get back on topic, please.

The topic at hand being an original poster protesting against supposed racism with clearly racist arguments? I can see how the discussion on this topic can only go well...

While I'm sympathetic to the argument, affirmative action and giving preference to minority-owned businesses is widely accepted in our country.  While I agree that making decisions based upon race is racist, there's apparently another side to that argument.

As for our rules against going off-topic and attacking one another, those are long-standing and clear.  We should all be mature enough to discuss sensitive topics without having them devolve.

[saltlover]

Enough bickering.  Get back on topic, please.

The topic at hand being an original poster protesting against supposed racism with clearly racist arguments? I can see how the discussion on this topic can only go well...

While I'm sympathetic to the argument, affirmative action and giving preference to minority-owned businesses is widely accepted in our country.  While I agree that making decisions based upon race is racist, there's apparently another side to that argument.

As for our rules against going off-topic and attacking one another, those are long-standing and clear.  We should all be mature enough to discuss sensitive topics without having them devolve.

While my original response might not have been productive, the OP started this post for little reason than to incite argument, not debate.  He's made increasingly indefensible arguments as the Sterling story has unfolded, and pretty much cries conspiracy or hypocracy at every opportunity, when neither exist.  This isn't a discussion about affirmative action, or minority-owned businesses, any more than his rehashed arguments about anti-trust rules were weeks ago.  It's simply that he believes Donald Sterling should be allowed to say whatever he wants without any consequence.  That argument having failed, he just makes fallacious arguments when given the chance, or in this case, creates the opportunity himself.

I agree it's a sensitive issue, but this thread was not designed to do anything other than devolve.

But going forward, I think I'll stay out of the Sterling clashes.  Too much yelling, not enough listening from either side.

[Ogaju]

It appears Mark Cuban should be excepted from the hypocrites because news report just have him saying he would not have voted to remove Sterling. He is also reported to have said he did not care if the fans boycotted his games because of his vote. WOW!!

[colincb]

It appears Mark Cuban should be excepted from the hypocrites because news report just have him saying he would not have voted to remove Sterling. He is also reported to have said he did not care if the fans boycotted his games because of his vote. WOW!!

Link please?

[saltlover]

It appears Mark Cuban should be excepted from the hypocrites because news report just have him saying he would not have voted to remove Sterling. He is also reported to have said he did not care if the fans boycotted his games because of his vote. WOW!!

Link please?

It's from a Daily News article.  He didn't say he what he'd do exactly.  He said he would be the only vote in opposition if he felt it was the right thing to do.  Maybe he wants you to read between the lines, or maybe he wants to straddle the fence.  But he didn't directly say one thing or the other.

[colincb]

It appears Mark Cuban should be excepted from the hypocrites because news report just have him saying he would not have voted to remove Sterling. He is also reported to have said he did not care if the fans boycotted his games because of his vote. WOW!!

Link please?

It's from a Daily News article.  He didn't say he what he'd do exactly.  He said he would be the only vote in opposition if he felt it was the right thing to do.  Maybe he wants you to read between the lines, or maybe he wants to straddle the fence.  But he didn't directly say one thing or the other.

That's stuff Cuban said Thursday and it doesn't say what the poster claimed. Maybe there's something else.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cuban-doesn-care-owners-vote-sterling-case-article-1.1810930

[kozlodoev]

Enough bickering.  Get back on topic, please.

The topic at hand being an original poster protesting against supposed racism with clearly racist arguments? I can see how the discussion on this topic can only go well...

While I'm sympathetic to the argument, affirmative action and giving preference to minority-owned businesses is widely accepted in our country.  While I agree that making decisions based upon race is racist, there's apparently another side to that argument.

As for our rules against going off-topic and attacking one another, those are long-standing and clear.  We should all be mature enough to discuss sensitive topics without having them devolve.

I'm just amazed how this still could be up for discussion, given that we've had black players, coaches, managers and owners in the NBA for years now. It just feels to me that whoever is trotting this horse out to the races is, dunno, 50 years too late? But that's just me, I guess.

[Future Celtics Owner]

You are right though, if the NBA is so concerned about the racist comments of an owner, shouldn't they show their commitment to a diverse society by instituting parameters to have minority owners be able to be given priority status to purchase franchises, even at a reduced rate. Of course, we all know that ain't hapnin

What's the hypothetical discount that a minority group should get?

I've never been a fan of fighting discrimination with more discrimination.

they do not need a discount at all. The NBA just has to stipulate that Ballmer come in with minority partners. That takes care of that!!!

That is still discrimination. Giving preferential treatment because of ones skin color is as racist as it gets. You do not fight fire with fire...ask a firefighter. And you do not judge people based on their skin color, you judge on the content of their character...ask MLK.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I didn't know Radiv and Lasry were black, my bad.

So the league is scheduled to approve the sale of an NBA franchise to yet another white guy when there were bids made by groups that involved minorities, albeit token minorities.

In this case we know minority is code for 'black' come on. If you are extending minority to Indians and Arabs you might as well extend it to Jews. Did you see any Indians or Arabs at those pressers that were called to protest Sterling?

Wow. You do not want equality..  you want special treatment. And I think it is elitist for anyone to say that blacks are the only and real minority, in any case.

[Sketch5]

I think this is a non issue, being made into an issue, and a little simpler than people are making it out to be.

First the NBA wanted to get this out of the way. They have the Finals and Draft coming up, and this is taking it away from that. Plus from Doc's POV he probably wants it done with, because he needs to work on the off season, draft and also FA, and trade. It's hard to get players to even walk threw the door, let alone get them to when the franchise is in a mess.

So, it's a quick sale. Tell me how many minorities have that kind of money to just up and buy a team? It unfortunate, but its just how it is right now. And the minorities that do have close to that kind of money might not be in a position to make that kind of purchase, or even want to.   Also if the asking price was 2 Billion, how many people would it take to buy the team? How long would it take to get everything lined up?

Also if the NBA went down that route specifically hiring a minority owner, it would still look bad. Kind of mocking the issue, sugar coating it, trying to look good. It would looked forced and fake.

I do how ever think next time a team comes up for sale, they should make it more of a priority for interracial ownership.

Also we all keep saying minority, even I have been. But with in a generation, white people will become the minority. It's also a bad way of describing our culture, our county. This right there is why we still issue.

The OP bringing this up, calling the NBA hypocrites with out being in their shoes is why we still have race issues. They took care of Sterling, booted him out quickly for his actions. But no thats not good enough, need to sell the team to a person that's not white. It takes baby steps, small victories.  When you win a battle, but then turn around and complain it's not good enough, it's greedy, and that just fuels the people that are racist.