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Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« on: May 30, 2014, 01:38:45 PM »

Offline Rodan45

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So I'm listening to Gregg Popovich talk about how it isn't always about the nitty gritty details and how sometimes a team that plays with more passion will win, and a light bulb goes off. Follow me now.


What if we tried to assemble a team that was not only good, but tenacious and tough in the way the bad boy pistons. We'd win games not only because of our talent but also because of our competitive fire.

The first step would be in the draft getting a player that fits that profile, in this case the one that matches up is Marcus Smart. Every time someone talks about him they basically drool all over themselves over how competitive he is, and how he's the man in all respects.

With our later pick we'd get one of the big men projected for our spot. Draft Express has Clint Capela (6'11), Adreian Payne (6'10), Kristaps Porzingis (7'0), going 18, 19, and 20, respectively.

This would set up the OKC trade where we will get probably the most fiery player in the game, Russel Westbrook. Hopefully they get knocked out by the Spurs and realize he isn't a point guard and takes shots away from Kevin Durant (they played better without him!).

We'd give up Rondo (a pure passer who'd elevate Kevin Durant's game), Sullinger (good potential), maybe even Olynyk (or in place of sullinger) if another team becomes involved, and brandon bass if they'll take him, and package a good amount of picks together.

He'll get here and we'll make him the shooting guard because that is what he really is. He'll provide loads of offense for us, and be more than happy to do that.

To fill the power forward position we'd bring back Kris. He's a proven 10/10 guy who I would have never thought I would like, but he's won me over.

So the line up would be as follows more or less:

C:  Clint Capela/who we can get

SG:   Russel Westbrook

SF:    Jeff Green

PG:    Marcus Smart

PF:    Kris Humpries



We'd be young, athletic and talented.

        
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 01:52:15 PM »

Offline gpap

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Others, including myself, have brought up Rondo for Westbrook in the past.

It's a good idea but I am not sure OKC deals Westbrook.
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 02:10:44 PM »

Offline Endless Paradise

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Not to be rude, but you clearly haven't been paying attention to the playoffs at all because if you were, you'd have noticed that Westbrook has been OKC's best player by far, with Ibaka the second-best.  Not only that, but Durant's probably having the least impressive playoffs of his entire career.

Why do people insist on perpetuating this ridiculous notion that OKC is being held back by Westbrook?  He sure held them back in Game 4 with his 40/10/5/5 line. 

Westbrook isn't taking shots away from Durant; Durant wouldn't take those shots anyway.  He's been detached and listless almost this entire postseason.  Stop blaming Westbrook for Durant not stepping up.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 02:12:46 PM »

Offline Donoghus

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I hate the idea of a Smart/Westbrook backcourt.  They would kill each other.

Also, the PF depth has gotten totally destroyed here.
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 12:57:45 AM »

Offline Rodan45

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Fair points all around.

The notion that he's holding them back is based on his time being injured in the regular season when the team was legitimately, by the record, playing better without him. He's excelled in this series because of this match up advantages against the Spurs athletically.

I remember seeing the stat somewhere, can't pin point the exact numbers, that when Tony Parker guards Westbrook he's really not all that, but he torches everyone else because everyone else can't match up athletically, if he was guarded by someone like Dwayne Wade or Damian Lillard the result would be different.

We would have some, but not great, power foward depth, but there's plenty of good ones floating around, and this would be a team that will only get better with time, and with time, more opportunities to get better power forwards would come up (Danny can wheal and deal something).


That being said I completely understand why this lineup would turn some off. A lot of people feel that way about Metta World Peace, you either love him or hate him. Same with this lineup, but regardless it would be one that competes and pushes the pace.   
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 02:58:15 AM »

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I like that lineup. Add Kevin love and omer Asik and I'll really like it. Smart-Westbrook-green-love-Asik
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 02:15:43 PM »

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The Celtics played better without Rondo for a while last year, doesn't mean anything significant in the long-run.  OKC is better with Durant and Westbrook than with just Durant for the opposing defense to zero in on.  See: the Grizzlies-Thunder playoff series last year and how OKC fizzled out in five games.

Also, Damian Lillard most certainly cannot guard Westbrook.  He's about as close to a defensive liability as you can get.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2014, 02:26:22 PM »

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When I think of passion and competitive fire, the first Celtic I think of is Jeff Green.
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2014, 03:14:06 PM »

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Quote from: LooseCannon on May 31, 2014, 02:26:22 PM
When I think of passion and competitive fire, the first Celtic I think of is Jeff Green.

  If you're trying to improve the Celts competitive fire and will to win the first person you get rid of shouldn't be the guy who plays through a dislocated elbow to try and win a playoff series.
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Re: Big Ideas: OKC trade + Draft
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2014, 07:39:42 PM »

Offline bmac934

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love the fiery comments, payne westbrook and smart would ABSOLUTELY fit that bill, and signing lance stephenson this summer would do the same as well as upgrade avery bradley
but i cant see us signing lance and drafting marcus, this would probably result in us drafting vonleh or gordon
I cant see the thunder turning down a deal revolving around (some of which obviously not all of which) rondo, green, bayless, and picks...if anyone wants to check this scenario out I wrote a little bit about it in the If OKC gets eliminated forum
teaming up russell westbrook and kevin love is my dream scenario (like at USC) (also we could have to potentially give up everything we have to get these two superstars)
but depending on if we trade JG (which i do NOT want to, people underestimate how good he is after a subpar season this year but hey maybe he just isnt cut out to be the main guy, he was electric last year against ny in the playoffs and the only guy we had was paul pierce) (but also when you can aquire superstars you do what you gotta do) we still have one maybe two gaping holes (a SF in a league that runs on small forwards....actually maybe brad would slide lance to the three, but definitely not ideal) as well as a rim protecting big man, i dont like asik just because of his balloon payment

but a line up of..(the smart and gordon picks obviously depend on what we do this offseason) SCREAMS INTENSITY, and I see as a definite contender
(if we draft marcus smart we need to resign AB to come off the bench)

russell westbrook
lance stephenson or marcus smart
jeff green or aaron gordon
kevin love
(insert big man cause honestly who knows lol)

on a last note though, if we keep sully and can sign greg monroe I don't see a huge drop off
and depending on who the jazz draft i love the idea of trading for rudy gobert as a quality backup
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 11:55:00 PM »

Offline Rodan45

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Quote from: bmac934 on May 31, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
love the fiery comments, payne westbrook and smart would ABSOLUTELY fit that bill, and signing lance stephenson this summer would do the same as well as upgrade avery bradley
but i cant see us signing lance and drafting marcus, this would probably result in us drafting vonleh or gordon
I cant see the thunder turning down a deal revolving around (some of which obviously not all of which) rondo, green, bayless, and picks...if anyone wants to check this scenario out I wrote a little bit about it in the If OKC gets eliminated forum
teaming up russell westbrook and kevin love is my dream scenario (like at USC) (also we could have to potentially give up everything we have to get these two superstars)
but depending on if we trade JG (which i do NOT want to, people underestimate how good he is after a subpar season this year but hey maybe he just isnt cut out to be the main guy, he was electric last year against ny in the playoffs and the only guy we had was paul pierce) (but also when you can aquire superstars you do what you gotta do) we still have one maybe two gaping holes (a SF in a league that runs on small forwards....actually maybe brad would slide lance to the three, but definitely not ideal) as well as a rim protecting big man, i dont like asik just because of his balloon payment

but a line up of..(the smart and gordon picks obviously depend on what we do this offseason) SCREAMS INTENSITY, and I see as a definite contender
(if we draft marcus smart we need to resign AB to come off the bench)

russell westbrook
lance stephenson or marcus smart
jeff green or aaron gordon
kevin love
(insert big man cause honestly who knows lol)

on a last note though, if we keep sully and can sign greg monroe I don't see a huge drop off
and depending on who the jazz draft i love the idea of trading for rudy gobert as a quality backup


Have to say I love the idea of signing Lance Stephenson, a combination of him + Smart and/or Westbrook, would absolutely overwhelm many teams and be able to compete with the best of them.

I mean just think of the early to mid 80's celtics teams. GOOD GAHD were they intense, and that intensity transitions into defense, and as every NBA will tell you, it rolls over into the offense.

/off topic: I cannot fathom the amount of times I heard a coach being interviewed on the sideline or post game say some variation of "we need to increase our defensive intensity." 
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