Here's the thing. Say for instance the following scenario occurs. Draft night comes around and the Celtics are staring down the barrel of making the #6 pick and rebuilding on the fly. Then the following happens.

With the 6th pick the Celtics select Marcus Smart. Smart comes off the board and is looked at as the two guard of the future. An ultra competitive player who could have went #2 last year. Can defend at the one or two. Has a developing jumper etc...

With the 17th pick the Celtics select Saric. Saric falls because no one believes he's going to come over. The alternate plan in this scenario is Anderson.

Now here is where the scenario gets fun.


The Celtics now have a lineup of
PG-Rondo
SG-Smart
SF-Green
PF-Sullinger
C- Open

The Celtics trade Jeff Green to Washington for a future draft pick and an expiring.
Celtics sign Pau Gasol to a MLE deal.
Celtics allow Avery Bradley to leave when he is offered 4/32 by some desperate team.
Celtics sign Paul Pierce to Bi Annual exception

This would be the lineup after that

PG-Rondo
SG-Smart
SF-Pierce
PF-Sullinger
C-Gasol

Main guys off the bench Olynyk,Wallace, Bass, 17th pick.

What do you think? It's feasible to rebuild on the fly and make this deal to compete. Ties up no money for the future and allows Boston to still go after 2 max free agents in 2015. Maybe Rondo won't even cost the max. But this team would certainly look better than Brooklyn this year. This wouldn't be your typical treadmill team. Not in the east.

What is your scenario if the C's keep both picks?

I get where you're coming from on this but I don't think a lot of it is realistic.

Smart: I don't see him as developing into a SG.  At best he becomes a swing guard coming off the bench behind Rondo and AB (or if we're fortunate, a better starting SG).  This is not a bad type of player to have but personally I'd like to do better than picking a 6th man with the 6th pick in this draft.

AB is most likely resigned for something like 3 years for 12-13 mill total.  no team is going to look at his injury history, lack of ballhandling, mediocre shooting, ineptitude in passing and his decline on D this past year and offer $8 mill per year.  I would only resign him on reasonable money and would not be heartbroken if he left because someone overpaid for him.

Pau is worth more than the MLE.  Some team (contender) will sign him for a good 8-9 mill per year for 2-3 years. 
Similar with PP -- worth more than the Bi-annual exception.  could still get the MLE from the Clips or more $ to resign with the Nets for 2 years.

Sending out Green for just a pick and expiring doesn't accomplish anything.  I really like PP and all he did for the C's but he's best served coming off the bench than playing as a starter.  Green, for all his warts, is still good enough to be a starter. 

Hypothetically, if you kept AB and Green, added Pau and Paul, added Smart (would prefer Gordon to go with what you have) and BPA at #17 (most likely a swing man that's a better shooter than Smart) that team would win the Atlantic and quite probably be a 2 or 3 seed in the East.  Might even give Miami a run for their money in the playoffs since they have no answer for Pau or Rondo and they have the defenders to throw at Lebron and Wade and make Bosh beat you.

Rondo, AB, Green, Sully, Pau
Bench: Smart, PP, Bass, KO, Fav, Wallace, #17 (SG shooter), Iverson, Johnson, Pressey.
the big weakness is backcourt shooting. 

If  we are trying to compete next year, then need to package the 17 with some 2nd round picks to move down a few spots to get a guy that is ready to go right away (Harris, McDermott). If not, then you draft a project at 17 (e.g., Porzingis, or Capela).

I don't think Smart will work at SG. I guess for a year they might do that and let Rondo walk.

Here's the thing. Say for instance the following scenario occurs. Draft night comes around and the Celtics are staring down the barrel of making the #6 pick and rebuilding on the fly. Then the following happens.

With the 6th pick the Celtics select Marcus Smart. Smart comes off the board and is looked at as the two guard of the future. An ultra competitive player who could have went #2 last year. Can defend at the one or two. Has a developing jumper etc...

With the 17th pick the Celtics select Saric. Saric falls because no one believes he's going to come over. The alternate plan in this scenario is Anderson.

Now here is where the scenario gets fun.


The Celtics now have a lineup of
PG-Rondo
SG-Smart
SF-Green
PF-Sullinger
C- Open

The Celtics trade Jeff Green to Washington for a future draft pick and an expiring.
Celtics sign Pau Gasol to a MLE deal.
Celtics allow Avery Bradley to leave when he is offered 4/32 by some desperate team.
Celtics sign Paul Pierce to Bi Annual exception

This would be the lineup after that

PG-Rondo
SG-Smart
SF-Pierce
PF-Sullinger
C-Gasol

Main guys off the bench Olynyk,Wallace, Bass, 17th pick.

What do you think? It's feasible to rebuild on the fly and make this deal to compete. Ties up no money for the future and allows Boston to still go after 2 max free agents in 2015. Maybe Rondo won't even cost the max. But this team would certainly look better than Brooklyn this year. This wouldn't be your typical treadmill team. Not in the east.

What is your scenario if the C's keep both picks?

There's no way Boston is going to get Pau Gasol for the MLE.  He's going to get 3 year deals for way more than that offered to him by just about any team with salary cap room.  Pierce will also be able to get a 2 to 3 year MLE deal from a lot of folks and he ain't coming back to Boston for a less than that unless we add somebody much better than Smart to the roster.

Mike

I don't like the idea of depending on Pierce to play starter's minutes.

  Agreed. I thought the whole thing about dumping Green and letting Bradley walk was pretty gratuitous if you're trying to win games other than possibly freeing up future cap space.

The Celtics are going to be in a rebuild and I think they need to do it right, blow it up and start literally from scratch right now.

Draft picks need to be looked at as not only Rookie players coming in but a chance to be packaged together to move up or be traded for a vet(shouldnt be trading vet for picks until the 2016 pick at earliest)

Move Rondo if you get an acceptable deal for him (mid round first and second round pick) if you can.

Trade Bass for hopefully a late first round pick either this year or next year, if not 2 second round picks from a team in any given years(mainly just for small trade chips). Trade Green for anything.

Let Bradley walk is he doesnt accept a deal under 7 million per year.

Let hump walk as well, he will only help this team out for a window in which we need the best possible draft picks(Rebuild window being Present-2017/2018)

Draft one of Randle/ Vonleh/ Smart  in that order with the 6th pick.

Draft one of Hood/Young/Lavine/ Pj Hairston in that order

Wildcard draft pick for the 17th pick being Saric. From what I have seen I like his game, but dont wanna pull the trigger on him being selection just yet. Easily could be that pick as he is projected pretty high.

Try to get rid of the vets for anything possible so we can tank next season. Hopefully rondo brings in a first, but i wont include it in this since he is still on team.

One of Philly's picks next year is a first rounder, but top 14 protected. If its top 14, Celtics get 2 second rounders.

Highly possible in a weak Eastern Conference that Philly can be outside the top 14. as they have the 3rd and 10th pick in the draft. Michael Carter Williams had an amazing rookie year. As well as having Nerlens Noel coming off injury to his rookie year this upcoming season.

Celtics have 2 firsts this year with potential to have 3 firsts next season. 5 firsts in two years. If the celtics are bad next year, which full rebuild mode they should be, then we have 2 top 10 picks in two season with other valuable pieces to move up in next years draft.

Celtics need to rebuild and get this ship going right.

If celts keep the pick, we have to move Rondo.

-I'd package Rondo and Wallace to Houston for Parsons and Asik.  They are competing now so two years of wallace might be easier to swallow for them.  If not Wallace, then perhaps bass.

-I would take Marcus Smart with the 6th pick ( I just have this feeling the guy is going to be a beast).

-I would take Saric, Warren, or some other wing (preferably someone that can play the 2 and the 3) at 17; if we need to trade the 17 and our second rounder to move up and get who we want, we do it.  I would love Staukus.

Then danny works some magic with the trade exception and whoever is left out of Bass, Wallace, Bogans, etc.

You roll with a lineup of:
PG - Smart/Bayless/Pressey(Defensive nightmare of a backcourt when paird with Bradley plus Smart can cover taller 2s while bradley handles the PGs)
SG - Parsons/Bradley/17 pick
SF - Green/Parsons/17 pick (Play Parsons at the 2 or 3 depending on matchups, eventually move one of these guys depending on how things go)
PF - Olynk/Sully
Center - Asik/Vitor/Colton

I can live with that and then build from there with assets we have (vets, picks, etc).